what do people here think of Joyce Meyer?

sunlover1 said:

Again, are any of us pure (in our hearts)?

Sorry, got all goofy for a second there.
I'll try to get with the program.

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I do listen to a few select ministers online. If we were to only watch those pure in heart we probably wouldn't be watching at all!

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before - but apparently Joyce Meyer believes and teaches the following:

(1) She says Jesus went to hell to pay for our sins.
(2) She says Jesus was the first, born-again man.
(3) She says we are little gods.
(4) She says we can speak things into existence like God.
(5) She says she received messages from angels.
(6) She says the gospel will make you materially wealthy.
(Will edit this with a URL to an image when I reach 50 posts, haha).

She was also mentioned in Pastor Paul Washer's series called 'the Discernment' which he spoke of controversies concerning the Word of Faith movement. She was one of the figures that was mentioned and rebuked alongside Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinny, etc. I could provide a link but an error keeps popping up which prevents me from doing so

LiveFreeSpirit said:

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before - but apparently Joyce Meyer believes and teaches the following:

(1) She says Jesus went to hell to pay for our sins.
(2) She says Jesus was the first, born-again man.
(3) She says we are little gods.
(4) She says we can speak things into existence like God.
(5) She says she received messages from angels.
(6) She says the gospel will make you materially wealthy.
(Will edit this with a URL to an image when I reach 50 posts, haha).

She was also mentioned in Pastor Paul Washer's series called 'the Discernment' which he spoke of controversies concerning the Word of Faith movement. She was one of the figures that was mentioned and rebuked alongside Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinny, etc. I could provide a link but an error keeps popping up which prevents me from doing so

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She says Jesus went to hell as a sinner and needed to be born again. She also says Jesus suffered the torments of hell and demons for three days.

Along with many, many other false non biblical doctrines.

LiveFreeSpirit said:

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before - but apparently Joyce Meyer believes and teaches the following:

(1) She says Jesus went to hell to pay for our sins.
(2) She says Jesus was the first, born-again man.
(3) She says we are little gods.
(4) She says we can speak things into existence like God.
(5) She says she received messages from angels.
(6) She says the gospel will make you materially wealthy.
(Will edit this with a URL to an image when I reach 50 posts, haha).

She was also mentioned in Pastor Paul Washer's series called 'the Discernment' which he spoke of controversies concerning the Word of Faith movement. She was one of the figures that was mentioned and rebuked alongside Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinny, etc. I could provide a link but an error keeps popping up which prevents me from doing so

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Nice easy to read post

My response:
And Paul Washer is considered Heretic by other's standards.
Funny how they all consider themselves infallible and others in error.
Regardless, the points above need to be "in context" .
Perhaps considered one by one.
We can make lists of gripes about others but we better first check
our sourses and context etc..
Also, just because something 'seems' to you, to be unscriptural,
doesn't mean it is. Same as with Paul Washer.
IOW, who died and made his thoughts king?

sunlover1 said:

Nice easy to read post

My response:
And Paul Washer is considered Heretic by other's standards.
Funny how they all consider themselves infallible and others in error.
Regardless, the points above need to be "in context" .
Perhaps considered one by one.
We can make lists of gripes about others but we better first check
our sourses and context etc..
Also, just because something 'seems' to you, to be unscriptural,
doesn't mean it is. Same as with Paul Washer.
IOW, who died and made his thoughts king?

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The facts have been checked out and the problems are well documented.

Also it’s not really about spot the heretic, it's about the well known teachings of a movement.

i am edified by both Joyce Meyer and Paul Washer

TravelerFarAwayFromHome said:

what do people here think of Joyce Meyer?

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She's terrible. A false Prophetess. I refuse to listen to her.

There are many at this point, who teach from the persepctive given to them by the holy place.

Originally Posted by TravelerFarAwayFromHome

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CityOfGod said:

She's terrible. A false Prophetess. I refuse to listen to her.

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Where did she ever claim to be a prophetess?




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Habakk said:

The facts have been checked out and the problems are well documented.

Also it’s not really about spot the heretic, it's about the well known teachings of a movement.

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Which movement?
Teaching messages from angels?!

These facts, should explode any idea that Joyce Meyer is the real deal:

Joyce Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

She has used the Gospel as one way ticket to living the high life. Note, the article below:

"Meyer, who owns several homes and travels in a private jet (currently a Gulfstream IV),[8][9] has been criticized by some of her peers for living an excessive lifestyle. She responded that she doesn't have to defend her spending habits because "there’s no need for us to apologize for being blessed."[8] Meyer commented, "You can be a businessman here in St. Louis, and people think the more you have, the more wonderful it is...but if you’re a preacher, then all of a sudden it becomes a problem."[8]
On November 11, 2003, the St. Louis Post Dispatch published a four part series."[8] exposing Meyer’s "$10 million corporate jet, her husband’s $107,000 silver-gray Mercedes sedan, her then $2 million home and houses worth another $2 million for her four children", her $20 million headquarters, furnished with "$5.7 million worth of furniture, artwork, glassware, and the latest equipment and machinery, including a malachite round table, a marble-topped antique commode, a custom office bookcase, a $7,000 Stations of the Cross in Dresden porcelain, an eagle sculpture on a pedestal, another eagle made of silver, and numerous paintings", among many other expensive items — all paid for by "her ministry". The article prompted Wall Watchers[10] (a Christian nonprofit watchdog group) to call on the Internal Revenue Service to investigate Meyer and her family.
Following the adverse publicity about her lifestyle and Ministry Watch's request for an IRS probe, Meyer announced in 2004 plans to take a salary reduction from the $900,000 per year she had been receiving from Joyce Meyer Ministries (in addition to the $450,000 her husband received) [11] and instead personally keep more of the royalties from her outside book sales which Meyer had previously donated back to Joyce Meyer Ministries. She now retains royalties on books sold outside the ministry through retail outlets such as Wal-Mart, Amazon.com, and bookstores, while continuing to donate to her ministry royalties from books sold through her conferences, catalogues, website, and television program.[12] "The net effect of all of this," notes Ministry Watch,[10] "was most likely a sizable increase in the personal compensation of Joyce Meyer and reduced revenues for JMM." In an article in the St. Louis Business Journal, Meyer's public relations director, Mark Sutherland, confirmed that her new income would be "way above" her previous levels.[13] Joyce Meyer Ministries says it has made a commitment to maintain transparency in financial dealings,[14] publish their annual reports,[15] have a Board majority who are not Meyer relatives[16] and submit to a voluntary annual audit.[14][17] Currently this ministry is receiving a "C" rating (81-90) in financial transparency from Ministry Watch.[18]"

GladiatorforGod said:

These facts, should explode any idea that Joyce Meyer is the real deal:

Joyce Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

She has used the Gospel as one way ticket to living the high life. Note, the article below:

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Sounds like your envious.




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Tangible said:

Pop-psychology meets pop-Christianity. Lots o' pietism, very little Christ and him crucified for us. With a side order of false doctrine.

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Pretty much this....

I like Joyce Meyers, Joel Osteen, and TD Jakes. My YouTube site at rockytopva's channel - YouTube now has 947,590 views seen in 215 countries!

TravelerFarAwayFromHome said:

actually, i have listened to her teaching on worrying

she may have said to stop it

but she also said the reason we do not need to worry is because we need to put our faith in God

and He will not disappoint us

and that we need to have this mentality

i do not know how my problem is going to be solved

but God does.

that is not to say we just waiting around on God

but it does mean we try our best and leave the rest up to Him

it does not seem to be unbiblical to me

but i could be wrong

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I think you answered that quite well.
I have heard people from established orthodox Christian groups teach the 'peace of Christ' in much the same way.

I think that there is a lot of peace of mind also that arises from a life where the person always strives to do what is good and to either avoid or fight the evil.

LittleLambofJesus said:

Sounds like your enviou.

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Did Jesus live the high life? Did you He get around in a gold plated chariot?
Paul worked as a tent maker, while Joyce Meyer rides around in a private jet.

GladiatorforGod said:

Did Jesus live the high life? Did you He get around in a gold plated chariot?
Paul worked as a tent maker, while Joyce Meyer rides around in a private jet.

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Perhaps she is just blessed......




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LittleLambofJesus said:

Perhaps she is just blessed......




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Kind of like Jesus, compared to John the Baptist? It seems like that kind of charge came up against him too.

LittleLambofJesus said:

Perhaps she is just blessed.......

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Jesus didn't take in millions of dollars of $$$$ and spend it on himself. Didn't you read the article, she and her husband are living large on the proceeds from her ministry, while Jesus didn't have a bed to lay His head.