what do people here think of Joyce Meyer?

[Rick Otto]

LOL,... I have turned them all off. Let God sort them out.

 

[Habakk]

LOL,... I have turned them all off. Let God sort them out.

I did too. I don’t watch much Christian television most of it is just prosperity gospel hype.

 

[rockytopva]

Joyce Meyer at Lakewood

Joyce Meyer - Righteousness in Unrighteous Times - YouTube

 

[Habakk]

Joyce Meyer at Lakewood

Joyce Meyer - Righteousness in Unrighteous Times - YouTube

I think the Lakewood threads have been stopped until the other threads have been reviewed.

With respect, it’s a video/add of Joyce Mayer not an opinion of her teaching.

 

[rockytopva]

I think the Lakewood threads have been stopped until the other threads have been reviewed.

With respect, it’s a video/add of Joyce Mayer not an opinion of her teaching.

The video is a good example of Joyce Meyer's teachings... Which was the motive for the post. Any problems with hearing someone out before making judgements against them?

 

[Habakk]

The video is a good example of Joyce Meyer's teachings... Which was the motive for the post. Any problems with hearing someone out before making judgements against them?

Maybe, but that’s not what the thread is really about. It's about opinions.

I have heard Joyce Mayer many times before and I’ve also seen the real damage the teachings do to others. So no I won’t watch the video, buy her books or support her ministry.

My point however was in regards to the many Lakewood themed threads recently and their status. I think at the moment I prefer to work on those things we have in common in CF. I like Christian unity and I’m a little tired of all the arguments here.

 

[WOFFED]

... With respect, it’s a video/add of Joyce Mayer not an opinion of her teaching.

did you mean "video/ad" who would even 'click-it' when they see it's 1:05:35

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[Habakk]

did you mean "video/ad" who would even 'click-it' when they see it's 1:05:35 ​

I must admit I didn’t see it was that long. That’s a lot of video, not sure why it’s on this thread.

 

[rockytopva]

I must admit I didn’t see it was that long. That’s a lot of video, not sure why it’s on this thread.

99.9% of the video is the teaching of Joyce Meyer. Which, if your going to judge somebody at least hear them out. As far as the length, I cannot help that the lady likes to talk.

 

[rockytopva]

and these men the sons of Zeruiah be too hard for me:- 2 Samuel 3:39

Wow! What a tough bunch!

 

[Habakk]

99.9% of the video is the teaching of Joyce Meyer. Which, if your going to judge somebody at least hear them out. As far as the length, I cannot help that the lady likes to talk.

As I said I have heard her before. I know enough about her teachings not to need to watch another video. As I said those underlying teachings do real damage to some people.

If you like her that’s your choice, I don’t condemn you for that. All I said is that it’s not fair to try and impose her teachings on others here. It only causes problems.

 

[rockytopva]

Maybe, but that’s not what the thread is really about. It's about opinions.

I have heard Joyce Mayer many times before and I’ve also seen the real damage the teachings do to others. So no I won’t watch the video, buy her books or support her ministry.

My point however was in regards to the many Lakewood themed threads recently and their status. I think at the moment I prefer to work on those things we have in common in CF. I like Christian unity and I’m a little tired of all the arguments here.

Well... Why not start a new one and call it "The why we hate Joyce Meyer" thread. That way you will only attract those who equally hate the woman.

 

[Habakk]

Well... Why not start a new one and call it "The why we hate Joyce Meyer" thread. That way you will only attract those who equally hate the woman.

Who hates her? Certainly not me, please don’t make such accusations.

The thread is now going way off topic.

Let’s agree to stop any hostility now before it starts.

My point stands this is the wrong place for a long video of Joyce Mayer’s teaching. Thats my point, nothing more. No hate for her at all.

 

[rockytopva]

Who hates her? Certainly not me, please don’t make such accusations.

The thread is now going way off topic.

Let’s agree to stop any hostility now before it starts.

My point stands this is the wrong place for a long video of Joyce Mayer’s teaching. Thats my point, nothing more. No hate for her at all.

The topic is on Joyce Meyer. In which that is all I have posted about on this thread.

 

[rockytopva]

It is ok not to listen to the woman. If that is not your cup of tea... Fine! Listen to what teachings bless your ears. After many ganging up on the woman I thought I would at least give her equal time. If you listen to the sermon it was a good one.

If today's preacher is living scriptural lives I normally don't have a problem with their tendencies to go overboard materially (which, hate to say, Joyce does)... I wish they wouldn't do it, but I won't hit the off button on them if they do.

What really gets me off board with much religiously today are the extra marital affairs. This is an embarrassment for Christianity. In the words of God the Father, it gives the enemies of the Lord occasion to blaspheme (2 Samuel 12:14), which is not cool. But there are still many, including Joyce Meyer, who are devoted spouses and parents, so I choose to remain onboard.

 

[Habakk]

It is ok not to listen to the woman. If that is not your cup of tea... Fine! Listen to what teachings bless your ears. After many ganging up on the woman I thought I would at least give her equal time. If you listen to the sermon it was a good one.

If today's preacher is living scriptural lives I normally don't have a problem with their tendencies to go overboard materially (which, hate to say, Joyce does)... I wish they wouldn't do it, but I won't hit the off button on them if they do.

What really gets me off board with much religiously today are the extra marital affairs. This is an embarrassment for Christianity. In the words of God the Father, it gives the enemies of the Lord occasion to blaspheme (2 Samuel 12:14), which is not cool. But there are still many, including Joyce Meyer, who are devoted spouses and parents, so I choose to remain onboard.

I agree fidelity is scriptural and we should live Godly lives. The bible makes that clear, God requires it.

God also scripturally requires male leadership in regards to teaching. Are we going to honour that teaching also in a world that thinks such things are outdated?

As for prosperity and this world, there is scriptural teaching on that too.

 

[rockytopva]

As for prosperity and this world, there is scriptural teaching on that too.

John Wesley gave most of the money he made from his book proceedings back to ministry. The American preacher chooses not to do this. This goes way back to Ira Sankey and DL Moody, who annoyed the English over the profits they intended to keep over Ira Sankey's popular hymnal (if I remember the story correctly). I wish it were not so, but few popular preachers have followed Wesley's example. Even Francis Asbury called himself 'Bishop' and Dr. Cooke founded a college after their own names, which annoyed Wesley.

I think this is the root cause for the dislike of so many American evangelists. I wish they would choose to live more modestly, but cannot help they choose otherwise.

 

[Habakk]

John Wesley gave most of the money he made from his book proceedings back to ministry. The American preacher chooses not to do this. This goes way back to Ira Sankey and DL Moody, who annoyed the English over the profits they intended to keep over Ira Sankey's popular hymnal (if I remember the story correctly). I wish it were not so, but few popular preachers have followed Wesley's example. Even Francis Asbury called himself 'Bishop' and Dr. Cooke founded a college after their own names, which annoyed Wesley.

I think this is the root cause for the dislike of so many American evangelists. I wish they would choose to live more modestly, but cannot help they choose otherwise.

Yes you have a point Sankey and DL Moody did keep the profits. The problem is that prosperity preachers don’t just make money with sales of over hyped books, they operate a pyramid scheme of “sowing your seed” with a promise of 10 fold return. Desperate people pour their money into this and the only people getting rich are the preachers. No, it’s not just about Joyce Meyer it’s about God’s people being led astray.

 

[sunlover1]

It is ok not to listen to the woman. If that is not your cup of tea... Fine! Listen to what teachings bless your ears. After many ganging up on the woman I thought I would at least give her equal time. If you listen to the sermon it was a good one.

I didn't watch it but I may sometime.
Rarely watch any of the televangelists, I don't really watch much of any tv.

If today's preacher is living scriptural lives I normally don't have a problem with their tendencies to go overboard materially (which, hate to say, Joyce does)... I wish they wouldn't do it, but I won't hit the off button on them if they do.

She seems to really be living it up, when she's not about the Father's businesss.
I don't know how much she grosses compared to what she invests into the kingdom,
(not that it's my business is it?) but Let's say she grosses 15m a year and gives away 2m.
While that would seem ridiculous to some, consider what YOU Give to the kingdom.
So I think that those who throw stones are seriously hypocritical.
Id be fine owning a home much nicer and larger than i need.
As would every homeowner posting here today
WE are silly .. What we say with our lips isn't what's in our hearts.

Not only that, when God blesses me with awesome "things" I know its
that I might be a blessing but it's also because He loves to bless...
Like He did with King Solomon..
So maybe she feels God is blessing her.
We may see things differently.
But to be sure, we all have back yards full lol

What really gets me off board with much religiously today are the extra marital affairs. This is an embarrassment for Christianity.

Again, are any of us pure (in our hearts)?

Sorry, got all goofy for a second there.
I'll try to get with the program.

 

[sunlover1]

Yes you have a point Sankey and DL Moody did keep the profits. The problem is that prosperity preachers don’t just make money with sales of over hyped books, they operate a pyramid scheme of “sowing your seed” with a promise of 10 fold return. Desperate people pour their money into this and the only people getting rich are the preachers. No, it’s not just about Joyce Meyer it’s about God’s people being led astray.

Gotta admit, about 15/20 years ago, I fell for that.
Sent offerings to some ministry.
Annual income went from 30 grand one year
(Maybe even a bit less)
to 100 grand the next.


Just saying.

I don't feel Joyce Meyers is fleecing the public but
I don't know her or her affairs either.