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Nope - they do not ignore that passage. They addressed all of Acts 15 here:
Acts 15 - Obedience or Legalism
I'm sorry you focus this way. I feel I'm being very misrepresented. I never said a breach can't be repaired. I did say how a breach can permanently terminate a covenant/contract. In the case of Israel, they never intended to repair the covenant as a group. Maybe the real reason is they couldn't keep it in the first place. I believe this is and was God's intention. I believe this is the legal basis for the need of redemption. Please pay attention to what I said.I'd asked:
I was actually focused on the person committing the adultery. Are THEY "failing" as a Christian - or are THEY bringing glory to God's name? Maybe place yourself in the position of the spouse that's been betrayed.
If you glean from your parent's marriage that a "true Christian wife" is one that stays with her husband even after he commits adultery (which I don't have a problem with - IF the relationship has truly been restored through work at regaining trust) - then you will, most likely, suffer some consequences for that in your relationships. Marriage is a bilateral covenant. When the vows are broken - so is the marriage. As you posted earlier - it's just like when the stipulations of a contract are breached. The agreement ceases.
A human is born dead. Yeah I know you can't get a grip on that. That's because your focus is on the carnal.Another good point that article makes:
Is the Law of God (“ministry of death”) bad because it kills us? No! God’s law is “holy, just, and good” because it kills us. We want the law to kill us. Without death, we can not be “born again.” The very “Word” that kills, is to also give us life. ~ 2 Corinthians 3:7-8 – Exactly What Came to an End, the Glory or God’s Law?
Romans 7:12
Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
According to Paul, the two "laws" are the law of the Spirit of life (obedience/love for God) and the law of sin and death (disobedience/misplaced fear of something other than God).
Romans 8:2 ~ For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death
You don't appear to understand the MJ movement. I don't think you were referred to any thing concerning Hebrew Roots other than some phrase that should have been left out. BABerean2 usually does much better than this.I can't find anywhere on their site where it's suggested one must convert to Judaism in order to be saved ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here is their About Us link: About Us | 119 Ministries
If we fail to understand the Old Testament (Hebrew) - then we will certainly fail to understand the New as well. The whole Bible is written as God's story to us. We can't just read the ending without the context of the beginning.
Just who are you siding with? You post like a divided house.The issue wasn't circumcision on its own - it's that they (the Judaizers) were saying it was necessary in order to be saved.
Acts 15:
The Council at Jerusalem
15 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question.
Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses."
The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”
What were the Jewish leaders of the day saying and promoting? Why did they seek to kill their Messiah?No - my disagreement is with YOUR interpretation of what Paul wrote.
You can't have the instruction from the Torah (about murder, adultery, lust, oaths, etc) as the foundation that Jesus built on (and then made stricter/more stringent) and call it (on its own) "bondage". That would imply that Jesus' instruction was even greater bondage. Clearly Paul was meaning something else.
From the same article I linked to earlier:
Paul also teaches, the true change was and is in us and that God’s law [instruction for us] has remained the same, as promised. It is not God’s law that changed, it is our relationship to God’s law that changed.
The change, that is prophetically detailed for us in Jeremiah 31:31-33, is that the House of Judah and the House of Israel (the 2 houses of Israel) will now begin to obey God’s law because of a change in the status of their heart.
Jeremiah 31:33
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares (YHWH) the LORD. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." ~ 2 Corinthians 3:7-8 – Exactly What Came to an End, the Glory or God’s Law?
I didn't see BABerean2 mention or imply the RCC. I think you're just trying to find something to argue about.So now you're attacking Catholicism (and promoting videos with guys saying that Catholics are NOT "biblical Christians")? Not good, BABerean. Not in my opinion. Your circle of influence is certainly narrowing.
Is this different video from the same group of people?Nope - they do not ignore that passage. They addressed all of Acts 15 here:
Acts 15 - Obedience or Legalism
The video is available for anyone to view. The guy makes the claim that RC aren't "biblical Christians". The entire "ministry" is to teach Catholics the err of their ways.I didn't see BABerean2 mention or imply the RCC. I think you're just trying to find something to argue about.
Jewish [church] leaders like Paul, Peter, Matthew, James et al? They certainly weren't seeking to kill their Messiah.What were the Jewish leaders of the day saying and promoting? Why did they seek to kill their Messiah?
Same as what group?Is this different video from the same group of people?
The words "My commandments", are not the same as the words "My Father's commandments", in John 15:10.
Notice the word "Father's" in the second part of the passage.
What do you think?
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"I and my Father are ONE." "I do the will of my Father." "Not my will but Yours be done."
Remember Yeshua saying these things?????? A house divided can NOT stand. You people are just silly...
I already have AOH on ignore, I guess you are next...
The Old Covenant and the New Covenant cannot be one and the same, based on a clear contrast between the two covenants which is found in the New Testament. Confirmation of the contrast between the Old Covenant and New Covenant is found below.
So pick something not being talked about. You're here to argue.The video is available for anyone to view. The guy makes the claim that RC aren't "biblical Christians". The entire "ministry" is to teach Catholics the err of their ways.
DR Luke is a gentile.Jewish [church] leaders like Paul, Peter, Matthew, Luke et al? They certainly weren't seeking to kill their Messiah.
It shouldn't matter about what the Jewish political leaders were promoting, because that's not the thread topic.
The people who put out the video BABerean2 posted.Same as what group?
It isn't BABrean or I that are divided."I and my Father are ONE." "I do the will of my Father." "Not my will but Yours be done."
Remember Yeshua saying these things?????? A house divided can NOT stand. You people are just silly...
I already have AOH on ignore, I guess you are next...
Then you have no argument and are not promoting or supporting Christianity.That was not the question. I never said they were identical. The mediator now is Yeshua.
"I and my Father are ONE." "I do the will of my Father." "Not my will but Yours be done."
Remember Yeshua saying these things?????? A house divided can NOT stand.
That's a strawman argument. No one is suggesting that. Pointing out that we Christians have ONE God (represented in 3 persons - the Trinity), with ONE will, isn't implying there is ONE covenant.The Old Covenant and the New Covenant cannot be one and the same, based on a clear contrast between the two covenants which is found in the New Testament
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