Rational. especially compared to some of the alternative nonsense.
It would help if you could share/explain that "rational reason".
People create things all the time. Building as house for instance...a musical score. Or are you just pulling my leg with that question?
I'm not pulling anyone's leg. I'm just suspecting that when you talk about "creating", you really mean
different things when you talk about "humans creating things" and "god creating things".
In the sense that you are using this word here, you are talking about "divine creation".
In that context, I say that humans don't create anything.
They rather
reshape things.
Let me remind you of the dichotomy you stated:
I think God did it all, why? if for no other reason, it just makes a lot more sense to me that something was created, as opposed to just happened by itself, because I've seen things created but never saw something happen by itself
You are implying that when something is "created" it needs a "creator" - and that "creator" needs to have a mind. And you base this idea on the "fact" that you never see things being "created on their own".
To that, I respond with: i've never seen anything being
created, full stop.
I've only ever seen things being
reshaped.
Because as you may have heared at some point.... E = mc²
Could you be a bit less vague?
Without it being caused to happen.
Can you give some examples of things in this space-time continuum that apparantly happen without a cause?
Lightning sure has a cause. And that cause is found in circumstantial natural phenomena. This cause is not a god throwing lightning bolts.
Just think of the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the term "by itself" and that will be what I mean. IOW, by itself.
Could you be a bit less vague and just answer the question in a clear and constructive manner?
Lightening happens by itself, at least I assume it does, but the conditions that allow it to happen did not.
How did they not?
Look at it like a timer to say...turn the lights on and off on your front porch. They come on and of by themselves
Errrr...... no.
When I flip the switch, the lights don't magically turn on "by themselves". Have you ever heared of electricity and electrical circuits?
See, this is why I ask you to clarify what you mean by "by itself".
It seems as if you don't really understand it yourself.... It's starting to smell as if you're just saying such things to have another (flawed) premise that you think you can use for yet another (flawed) god argument.
Eventhough it's completely unclear at this point, how any of this stuff justifies concluding "therefor, a god did it".
, but that wouldn't be possible if the conditions weren't created...so in essence, they do not happen by themselves.
Well, I guess I should be glad that you at least added that last bit.
