What can we agree is improving in this country?

[Always in His Presence]

Yeah, we need strong unions, and a good labor party. Denmark is capitalist, but also has some elements of socialism, so the Danish system could work as well, in conjunction with stronger unions.

an income taxes for individuals are at 40% - would you support that also?

 

[AlexB23]

an income taxes for individuals are at 40% - would you support that also?

Well, 30% in the US is close to 40%. At least it is not 50% or more.

 

[durangodawood]

an income taxes for individuals are at 40% - would you support that also?

Depends how that fits in with the rest of the picture.

For sure Danes are a lot happier on average than Americans with the systems they are in.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Well, 30% in the US is close to 40%. At least it is not 50% or more.

I encourage you to look closer -

Keep in mind - 61,000 DKK is

That's right - if you live in Denmark and you make a whopping $8,772 a year - your tax rate is capped at 52%

People in the US making 8,727 pay NOTHING

 

[AlexB23]

I encourage you to look closer - View attachment 346052

Keep in mind - 61,000 DKK is

View attachment 346053

That's right - if you live in Denmark and you make a whopping $8,772 a year - your tax rate is capped at 52%

People in the US making 8,727 pay NOTHING

Well, you get cheaper healthcare, and cheaper college in DK.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Well, you get cheaper healthcare, and cheaper college in DK.

Absolutely as you take home 4,000 a year - good stuff!

 

[AlexB23]

Absolutely as you take home 4,000 a year - good stuff!

Well, your graph is different.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Well, your graph is different.


View attachment 346054

Mine is from Denmark. And BTW - your graph is seven years old

Denmark - Individual - Taxes on personal income

Detailed description of taxes on individual income in Denmark

taxsummaries.pwc.com

 

[AlexB23]

Mine is from Denmark. And BTW - your graph is seven years old

Yeah, not a lot changes in 7 years in the US. And yes, Denmark does not have taxes that are as progressive as one hopes, but it is a start. The US does have the most progressive taxes in the world, but we have huge inequalities in the US (high Gini index)

 

[Always in His Presence]

Yeah, not a lot changes in 7 years in the US. And yes, Denmark does not have taxes that are as progressive as one hopes, but it is a start. The US does have the most progressive taxes in the world, but we have huge inequalities in the US (high Gini index)

If you honestly think is it better to give the government more than half of what you earn, we have a great chasm between our thoughts and beliefs.

 

[AlexB23]

If you honestly think is it better to give the government more than half of what you earn, we have a great chasm between our thoughts and beliefs.

Yes, we do. You do you. Or maybe we should place profit margin caps of 25% on big pharma, which will lower medical costs for all.

Hey, we live in a supposedly "free" country, so you can go for your politics, while I go for mine. I like the pro-life stance of the Republicans, but the reduce healthcare costs of the Democrats. The Democrat trans pronoun stuff is superficial, and pointless, while having fair, but somewhat strict border laws by the centrists makes sense. Green energy, if done right can help the earth, human health, but Tesla underpays their workers and Musk is something else.

 

[d taylor]

Did I say they were directly comparable? You appear to be building a straw man. What I'm saying is you have densely populated countries (much of North Western Europe, Japan, etc.), you have extremely large countries with smaller populations that are somewhat more diverse (Canada). You have South Korea, Germany, Spain, etc. Somehow all these diverse countries seem to have made government paid healthcare for all work. We aren't just comparing against Norway, or against Canada -- we have the entire First World (and even many second and third world countries) to use as examples of how it can work.

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I am sorry i waste only so much of my life debating government and politicians. If i am going to spend time here, i would rather it be spent on far more important areas like Eternal Life salvation and creation subjects, areas related to The Bible.

 

[civilwarbuff]

I feel like placing a limit on CEO wealth to $1B could help. If we have a minimum wage in this country, a maximum wealth limit could be set. People can debate how high or low this limit could be set.

Why would you want to limit a persons ability to create wealth (which benefits the economy as a whole)? We are the worlds wealthiest country BECAUSE of our system not in spite of it. Exactly how would limiting higher wages benefit the economy? Who and how would that be enforced (more taxes I assume (typical solution of liberals) and how would it be used to "benefit" the average American?

 

[Aviel]

The economy now is better than it was back in 1929, and is actually better now compared to the 2020 levels.

Prices have grown by 20 percent overall since 2020, with energy prices the most volatile, which is interesting as the unemployment rate, is lower.

What Americans notice is that their FOOD bill is continuing to become much higher in the last 3 yrs, and that is what is hurting them the most.

 

[Pommer]

Prices have grown by 20 percent overall since 2020, with energy prices the most volatile, which is interesting as the unemployment rate, is lower.

Well, there’s these wars going on that destabilize the international oil markets.

What Americans notice is that their FOOD bill is continuing to become much higher in the last 3 yrs, and that is what is hurting them the most.

One wonders what profits food producers are realizing of late.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Polls are not data, and the data shows a strong economy.

Don't start clapping yet.

My own opinion is we don't get a real economic correction WITHOUT a recession. That is the usual solution for inflation: higher unemployment(recession) = lower demand(less money/individual) = lower inflation (or even increased deflation) until a new balance is struck.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Well, 30% in the US is close to 40%. At least it is not 50% or more.

Try tossing in state/local income taxes as well as all the assortment of various taxes (sales/excise/property/school/etc) taxes that are imposed on you and try figuring it out again.

 

[Aviel]

Well, there’s these wars going on that destabilize the international oil markets.

One wonders what profits food producers are realizing of late.

One wonders who is paying all the protesters to try to "Interrupt" USA colleges, recently, ranting about "Jews".

Who is financing that?
If Americans find out that its the Democratic party, wont they be in for a ........surprise.

And that is not really a stretch to believe it, as the last thing that Obama did before He left office was some free some Cash that was FLOWN to IRAN. And they have used it for a decade to bomb Israel.
They've paid Hamas with some of that money.


"thank you Obama'... you are one of America's finest.

The "war industry" is a big business in the USA, and in Russia and China and others..

Americans have no idea that America's War Contractors, who build the armor and the killing weapons sell this stuff to nearly anyone.

Biden left billions of dollars worth of "war machines" in Afghanistan.

Americans forgot all about that one, while they keep Paying for the next war against Russia , under the guise of "helping the Ukraine".

Last time i checked, i noted that NO AMERICAN cast a VOTE to send billions and billions $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ into the Ukraine.

Now, my home is in Israel, so im certainly Glad that the USA sends money to Israel, as Israel is a friend of the USA.
Jews are very democratic, Jew are all about civil rights. Jews are all about staying alive when all around Israel are people who want to cut off every Jew's head with a saw and film it on a cell phone and show it to their Islamic Children.

You should see the cell phone movies of the butchered Jews, that were filmed by Hamas last OCT 7.
It's unbelievable.

Had Biden not left all those Billions of dollars worth of Tanks and Aircraft in Afghanistan, then the USA could have shipped it to the Ukraine and saved BILLIONS.

 

[civilwarbuff]

One wonders what profits food producers are realizing of late.

Oh yeah, farmers are getting rich. Before long they are going to be at the top of the 1percenters (you know, those people everyone loves to hate?).

 

[civilwarbuff]

who build the armor and the killing weapons sell this stuff to anyone.

Actually they don't. They must have export licenses from the federal gov to sell military arms to foreign gov.