What can make us secure in our Salvation...? More sure...?

[Neogaia777]

What can make us secure in our Salvation...? More sure...?

What can we base security in our salvation on...?

Comments...?

Peace,

God Bless!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

1st John
Hebrews
Colossians
A clear conscience.
Righteousness, Peace , and Joy.
Prayer without ceasing.
Abiding (Life/Living) in Union with (One With) Yeshua HaMashiach.
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[Neogaia777]

What can we base security in our salvation on...?

 

[mcarmichael]

Psalm 51/50

 

[mcarmichael]

Philosophy.

 

[jax5434]

What can make us secure in our Salvation...? More sure...?

What can we base security in our salvation on...?

Comments...?

Peace,

God Bless!

The security of our Salvation can be found in Romans 10:9"King James Bible
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved"
I wonder if what you're really asking is "how can we feel more secure in our salvation?" That question is much more difficult to answer. For me the answer has been to trust Gods' word more than my feelings. But as J.C. Ryle said some people may never have that absolute certainty of Salvation...but they are saved none the less.

 

[mcarmichael]

We are all either genetically pre-disposed toward religious feelings, or only some of us are.

 

[mcarmichael]

What can make us secure in our Salvation...? More sure...?

What can we base security in our salvation on...?

Comments...?

Peace,

God Bless!

Are you sure you aren't baiting? I'm just waiting for someone to come along and say "ourselves."

 

[Neogaia777]

Are you sure you aren't baiting? I'm just waiting for someone to come along and say "ourselves."

What do you mean...?

I don't even know what baiting is, and don't know what you mean by yourselves (ourselves, whatever...), I don't get it, do not comprehend, don't know what you mean?

Could you clarify...?

 

[mcarmichael]

What do you mean...?

I don't even know what baiting is, and don't know what you mean by yourselves (ourselves, whatever...), I don't get it, do not comprehend, don't know what you mean?

Could you clarify...?

Your question is limited in scope by the pre-supposed "to ourselves".
"How can I be sure that I'm saved?"
You're asking for something to refer to other than yourself, incognizant, it seems, that ultimately the question you ask depends upon your own discretion.

 

[Neogaia777]

Your question is limited in scope by the pre-supposed "to ourselves".
"How can I be sure that I'm saved?"
You're asking for something to refer to other than yourself, incognizant, it seems, that ultimately the question you ask depends upon your discretion.

Oh, OK...?

God Bless!

 

[mcarmichael]

Oh, OK...?

God Bless!

No problem.

 

[Theadorus]

The only thing that makes me sure and secure in my salvation is God's promise that if we believe we will have everlasting life. One can quote verses all day long about the promises of God and salvation, but it doesn't mean jack unless you really believe in what the Bible is telling you.

It's one thing knowing what the Bible says, and it's another thing to really believe it.

What we base the security of salvation on is what Jesus did on the cross for us, and nothing else. We need to trust in what he has done, and trust that he truly paid the price for our admission into heaven. Ephesians 1:13-14 is a good verse about our promise of salvation.

 

[Theadorus]

It all comes down to trusting in God. That is where our security lies. I trust in his promise to help me in my time of need. I trust in him to be my provider. I trust in him to be my comfort. I trust in him to be my redeemer. I trust in him for my salvation. Without trust in God, there is no way you can ever be sure about your salvation. One who isn't secure in their salvation is either trusting in their own goodness (self righteousness) to get into heaven; or they don't really believe God's word.

 

[Ron Gurley]

Sorry my friend Mr. Lion. You (mistakenly?) invoked a major debate that will never end:

ETERNAL SECURITY of the true believer's SALVATION and SPIRITUAL POSITION in CHRIST (OSAS)
...>VERSUS<....
LOSS of SALVATION BY: not standing firm in the faith, "falling away", "apostasy", growing cold, Hebrews chapters 6 + 10, a theology of "works", sinning after salvation, not keeping the "commandments. etc. etc.

SEE FOR EXAMPLE:

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/losing-salvation.8010090/

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/you-can-lose-your-salvation-through-apostasy.7785433/

Can True born again BELIEVERS lose their spiritual POSITION in Christ?

Can a Christian Lose His Salvation?

Willful Sin after Salvation and Eternal Security

 

[Ron Gurley]

Q1: "What can we base security in our salvation on...?
A1: Spiritually discern the MANY supporting verses and truths/doctrines in the Bible.

 

[Tolworth John]

What can make us secure in our Salvation...? More sure...?

What can we base security in our salvation on...?

Comments...?

Peace,

God Bless!

We don't base our security on anything.
Just as our salvation is not based on anything we have, are or will do, so our security is in the hands of Jesus.
See
John 10:28-29New International Version (NIV)
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish no one will snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.

 

[Ron Gurley]

RESPONSE TO POST#17:.."Q1"
"our (spiritual) security (~=sanctification?) is (solely) in the hands of Jesus (and/or the permanently indwelling God the Holy Spirit)?..."

A1: I disagree. John 10 refers to the salvation of His "sheep"/believers ONLY!

Man's "free will" must FOLLOW Jesus' example AFTER salvation, guided and comforted by God the Holy Spirit throughout the SANCTIFICATION PROCESS.

John 14:15...Jesus' BIG "IF's"
“IF you love Me, you will keep My commandments.(PRECEPTS: LOVE COMMANDED!)

Such as: "FOLLOW" + "OBEY" + "TRUST" + "be in the WILL OF GOD" + "LOVE "one another"" + ETC.!

John 13:35
By this all men will know that you are My disciples, IF you have love for "one another".”

John 14:23...Jesus answered and said to him,
“IF anyone loves Me, he will keep My word;
and My Father will love him,
and We will come to him and make Our abode (DWELLING) with him.

John 15:10
IF you keep My commandments, you will abide (DWELL) in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

 

[Tolworth John]

RESPONSE TO POST#17:.."Q1"
"our (spiritual) security (~=sanctification?) is (solely) in the hands of Jesus (and/or the permanently indwelling God the Holy Spirit)?..."

A1: I disagree. John 10 refers to the salvation of His "sheep"/believers ONLY!

Man's "free will" must FOLLOW Jesus' example AFTER salvation, guided and comforted by God the Holy Spirit throughout the SANCTIFICATION PROCESS.

John 14:15...Jesus' BIG "IF's"
“IF you love Me, you will keep My commandments.(PRECEPTS: LOVE COMMANDED!)

Such as: "FOLLOW" + "OBEY" + "TRUST" + "be in the WILL OF GOD" + "LOVE "one another"" + ETC.!

John 13:35
By this all men will know that you are My disciples, IF you have love for "one another".”

John 14:23...Jesus answered and said to him,
“IF anyone loves Me, he will keep My word;
and My Father will love him,
and We will come to him and make Our abode (DWELLING) with him.

John 15:10
IF you keep My commandments, you will abide (DWELL) in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

You miss the point. Jeusu is hold on to those who have been given to him. It is he who secures our faith.
The verse you quote are all about us showing our love for Jesus and the reward for doing so. They have nothing to do with being saved.

 

[Ron Gurley]

This OP: Has little or nothing to do with how unbelievers become SAVED. (Soteriology)

"...What can make us secure in our Salvation...? More sure...?"

aka

Can a true believer LOSE his salvation...or NOT??