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(moved) What can be done to improve the race relations in America?

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Marvin, I don't care what color you are. If you were black, I'd call you an uncle Tom. I also don't care about what your family talks about or FEELS. All that matter is facts. Slavery did not end because white people all the sudden woke up one day and began to feel bad for it after 400 years. It ended because of money. You got people that could afford slaves vs people that only had their family for workers. They wanted to even out the working field. If all whites could afford to have slaves, slavery never would have ended. Every white person would have been exchanging crop for another crop working together in the states.

You are really angry, if you really hate the US then you can move out. There is no gun being held to your head forcing you to stay.

Quick question, what would you call my wife then? She is black, born in NY, lived in GA most of her life, and we have been together for 7 years married for 2 1/2. I am white.

I don't think anybody denies how terrible slavery was, as it was probably the darkest moment in American history. However, there are no more slaves here in America, everybody is free no matter their color and everybody has equal rights.
 
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I'm not angry I'm just tired of foolery. I love how everyone likes to comment on my post about facts that happen today and I'm the past but no one comments on the folks that say we should be segregated. This site is filled with fools. Wolf says, I would marry someone outside of my race most definitely but if you read everyone else post you'd realize I'm the only one that would be ok with that.
 
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STOP IT.

You can chage your weight easily. It is not your IDENTITY.

People in America are being oppressed for their IDENTITY, not for transient physical features. It isn't the same at all.



What about left handed, red haires minorities? They exist.


You are still missing the point. Handedness is notnyour IDENTITY. Hair color is not an IDENTITY.



Poor is not an identity. That can change in an instant.



No I haven't been smoking too much anything. The OP asked what would make race relations more palatable and I provided a way. People COULD choose to switch privilege, especially the ones who claim there is no disproportionate oppression of minorities. People COULD switch privilege of rich and poor.

But, people are scared and unwilling to be confronted with such a thing. In reality, it may be useless, but that is a commentary on HUMANITY, not the quality of the thought experiment.

Humanity is the sick one - choosing to continue to ignore the cries and complaints of its own citizens while admonishing those who cry out. It is actually embarrassing and dishonerable.

Excuses can continue to be made, but they kernel from human apathy, hate and fear.


I bet you Christ would switch his role as the Privileged [Son of] God, and humiliate Himself as human to better understand, empathize and relate to them.

OH, WAIT...

Boy are you angry, about what I am not sure. Enough with the IDENTITY crap. Race is something you cannot change, neither is sex/gender, and both sex and race are protected from discrimination under the law.

As I stated much earlier in this thread, these "race relations" that are in so much trouble are because everybody is so damn sensitive now-adays and everything is racist and everything is sexist. People are so quick so "protest" (more like riot) and throw the race card, but they grind to a halt when they have to look at themselves.

IF people were more willing to accept responsibility for their faults and actions, then the world would start to become a better place. All the buzzwords seriously need to be thrown out the window such a privilege, racist, sexist, misogynistic, w/e.

Simply stop judging people by their skin, and judge them by the content of their character, just like MLK Jr wanted.
 
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I'm not angry I'm just tired of foolery. I love how everyone likes to comment on my post about facts that happen today and I'm the past but no one comments on the folks that say we should be segregated. This site is filled with fools. Wolf says, I would marry someone outside of my race most definitely but if you read everyone else post you'd realize I'm the only one that would be ok with that.

No, I am okay with that. Heck, I already did. Doesnt matter to me. I straight up tell people that segregation is [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] and backwards.

The only way to resolve the racial tensions or w/e is this, stop judging people by their race and start judging by the content of their character. It was like this before all the crap with BLM and the Black Panthers and WLM and the current KKK. But now everybody just wants special treatment for their skin color.

Women cannot be sexist! #killallmen
Black people cannot be racist! #killallcops #killwhitey

Okay >_> No, i honestly dont give a F if you are black, white, purple, blue, w/e. I will judge you by your character (aka how you dress and present yourself, how you talk, how you hold a conversation, how you act, how you work ect)

I personally will not give you special treatment because of your skin color, I couldnt care less! You bleed red, I bleed red.

Right now, the only race problem is BLM and how they are so quick to demonize white people (kill all the white children) and call everything racist (milwakee riots) and want everything special because they are black (BLM demands). This is called going backwards and an over-correction for the past.
 
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Boy are you angry, about what I am not sure.

You arent sure of what I am angry because I am not angry. You saw a rant (and maybe some other stuff) and saw anger. Rant is even a misnomer; the statement was at best imperative.

Enough with the IDENTITY crap. Race is something you cannot change, neither is sex/gender, and both sex and race are protected from discrimination under the law.

Stop because you say so? As I said, people are getting murdered for their identity as black, latino, native, and asian. And, in recent news, particularly black males are being killed on camera by cops with no convictions - many found to be of no wrong doing, or undeserving of such treatment.

So, it is an identity thing FIRST, because minorities wear their "racial" identity in their phenotypes.

You can be in the closet for decades; you aren't forced to wear your sexually on your skin color and features. As necessary and bold as it is for LGBT activists to fight for rights, it is a choice to identify as LGB, and it is a choice to go through transitions. Race and sexually aren't the same thing, nor do they demand the same social platforms and rights.

As I stated much earlier in this thread, these "race relations" that are in so much trouble are because everybody is so damn sensitive now-adays

Offending someone is hardly an oppression worthy of social reform. You have a the right in the world to call someone the ugliest names in the books as long as they arent fighting words, or threats. That is your right as an American.

You may not like the consequences of those actions... I would, for example, expect certain consequences if I walked up to The Rock and talked about his mother, sister, daughter and Samoan heritage. May not be violence, but i expect consequences.

There used to be a time when you could have a culturally offensive mouth, and it was acceptable. That was at the precipice of, during and before people fought for their racial and cultural rights. A lot of people, or their children, are still alive from that time, and it may not be a cultural paradigm shift to which they are used.

and everything is racist and everything is sexist.

Everything is not racist, or sexist. Most everything is prejudiced. Many things are bigoted, and the amount of ignorance is dense. And, we arent even talking about xenophobic people...


But, there are many things that ARE racist, and sexist.

The DoJ
STEM jobs and college programs
Academia
Legislative, Judicial and Executive branches
...


If you want people to stop whining aboit injustices, learn why people are whining so much, and then do something about it - be a first step in change.

People are so quick so "protest" (more like riot) and throw the race card, but they grind to a halt when they have to look at themselves.

Protesting is a constitutional right. And, don't be ignorant of agent provacateus: many people are hired to hijack peaceful protests for political and social demagogery. Don't buy into that. Riots that were meant to be riots are easily discernable from the context of protest and the people.

And, the race card gets thrown out because it gets USED for systematic oppreason and injustice... for many races. Maybe you keep seeing the race card because you keep ignoring what is in PLAY.

People talk about people using the race card more than people actually use the race card.

And, are you accusing minorities, protesters, and/or any champion of social and racial rights neglectful of personal reflection - inwardly and/or outwardly? I believe a good amount of "looking at self" happens with most all protests, and movements.

IF people were more willing to accept responsibility for their faults and actions, then the world would start to become a better place. All the buzzwords seriously need to be thrown out the window such a privilege, racist, sexist, misogynistic, w/e.

Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away.

Simply stop judging people by their skin, and judge them by the content of their character, just like MLK Jr wanted.

With all due respect to MLK, he was not the Messiah of black people. He was human; I don't pedistal him and the Black community doesn't necessarily do that either. And, if he was alive today I don't think he would have wanted black people to be able to go to integrated schools, universities and venues - just to be killed in mass, and sometimes killed on camera by an agency that has had a history of hosing, torturing and murdering minorities. Equality has been skewed, and America is one of the last Western countries to actually understand that.
 
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Haven't read all the posts but its simple.... do nothing. Do nothing because there are no race issues. Only trouble makers who stir the pot and MAKE it an issue. Those same trouble makers are the same ones who refuse to answer the bigger problem of so many blacks being killed due to other blacks. Something in their culture is not right. For another example lets look at gangs. We know they exist of course. But why do they exist? I mean.... it makes no sense. Why would someone need to start a gang just because someone from two blocks away walks down your street. Who cares who walks down your street. Its america, its freedom.

Once their culture is fixed, then we can focus on other issues.

ALOT of non-black people around the world were used as slaves at some point. Including italians. But you don't see me protesting about it. Because it was the past. Its a different world today. Its a modern civilized age (well mostly). Even the american indians have given up complaining about the past and they had it FAR worse then blacks did in america.

I seen a picture recently that was really good. It was of a court room. There was a black man being sentenced. His lawyer was black. The bailiff (officer) was black. The caption on it was "Three men in three different positions. In america color doesn't define your future, your choices do.". I really loved that picture. Me? I'm poor. My life to the outside world would be considered bad. And I am white. I have no white card that gets me anything. People look down at me just as they do someone who is poor and black.

Now do blacks get targeted by police? At times yes. Is it fair? No. But saying its a "white" thing is like saying all christians are evil people because of the actions of a few. And on top of that another culture will treat you how you act. I've had many blacks friends, even a fiancee. None agree with there being any major racial issues in america. And yes some of them live in "inner city" run down places. They to blame their culture, not others. Music about killing, revenge, sex, drugs, violence. They blame movies and tv shows that stereotype blacks (shows made by blacks). They blame old generations of teaching their kids they can't be anything and will forever be oppressed. Instead of teaching them its a free world and you can be anything you want to be.

In the end racism is a choice. You are not born with it, you are taught it. So those blacks who are racist against whites and others.... you likely got it from the media you follow or the people that raised you. We are all born as loving innocent people. Its not until we are adults that we learn to hate.
 
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What can be done to improve the race relations in America?

You could try educating people that their personal identity is less important than the need for social order? Good luck with that though, as for the past several decades people have been taught that their personal identity is sacred (leadnig to colossal egotism that would see society burn for the sake of their self-righteous vanity).

Of course, this education is something we could all benefit from, as nobody is immune to self-regard.
 
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Stop because you say so? As I said, people are getting murdered for their identity as black, latino, native, and asian. And, in recent news, particularly black males are being killed on camera by cops with no convictions - many found to be of no wrong doing, or undeserving of such treatment.

FACT: More unarmed white men and killed annually by police than black men.
FACT: black men commit a huge amount of violent crimes, more than any other demographic.
FACT: Police make choices within split seconds because they have to. The past is always 20-20, in the heat of a moment, not so much.
You can be in the closet for decades; you aren't forced to wear your sexually on your skin color and features. As necessary and bold as it is for LGBT activists to fight for rights, it is a choice to identify as LGB, and it is a choice to go through transitions. Race and sexually aren't the same thing, nor do they demand the same social platforms and rights.

I said sex, not sexuality. Do not bring in the alphabet group, this discussion is not about them. All americans have equal rights under the law. Nobody has "extra" rights.
Everything is not racist, or sexist. Most everything is prejudiced. Many things are bigoted, and the amount of ignorance is dense. And, we arent even talking about xenophobic people...

Actually please go speak with some BLM people and 3rd wave feminists. To them, literally everything is either racist or sexist! If not, asking somebody where they were born would not be considered a "micro-aggression" at plenty of universities.

Most people who call bigoted tend to be the ones who actually are. To be a bigot means you are completely resistant to hearing an oppositions point of view.

Also, please stop with the "insert-here"phobic remarks. A phobia is an irrational fear that is uncontrollable to the person that it effects. It is not a choice. The word you used there absolutely makes no sense.
But, there are many things that ARE racist, and sexist.

The DoJ
STEM jobs and college programs
Academia
Legislative, Judicial and Executive branches

None of these are racist. Sexist? Maybe considering that in court women always hold the advantage but racist? Please provide the proof.
STEM jobs and programs are not racist nor sexist, maybe women tend to not WANT to choose those types of jobs? My sister is going for chemical engineering and already has her bachelors. There was nothing stopping here.
How is Academia racist except in regards to affirmative action which gives people of color a higher chance of getting into a college than a white person?
Once again please provide proof, and how is the Executive branch racist when a biracial man is currently POTUS?

Outlandish claims mean absolutely nothing unless you can back up the claim.

Protesting is a constitutional right. And, don't be ignorant of agent provacateus: many people are hired to hijack peaceful protests for political and social demagogery. Don't buy into that. Riots that were meant to be riots are easily discernable from the context of protest and the people.

And, the race card gets thrown out because it gets USED for systematic oppreason and injustice... for many races. Maybe you keep seeing the race card because you keep ignoring what is in PLAY.

People talk about people using the race card more than people actually use the race card.

And, are you accusing minorities, protesters, and/or any champion of social and racial rights neglectful of personal reflection - inwardly and/or outwardly? I believe a good amount of "looking at self" happens with most all protests, and movements

I completely agree that protesting is a constitutional right. PEACEFUL protests. MLK did it right with his protests. Oh I believe they exist, but that does not change the Baltimore Riots, or the Milwakee riots. Almost all protesters participated in these riots.

How is it used to oppress? If it is actually used to oppress, it is racist, but when BLM calls for the beating of white people (milwakee riots) and universities host classes to stop the white man, it is considered a good thing?

I know exactly what is in PLAY. I work in one, if not the, most diverse work place you can in America, and literally half of my family is black because my wife is black. My wife personally thinks BLM are complete nut jobs and seriously ruining the image of Black people for most everybody else.

Actually, I am. Read the BLM demands that they came out with publicly (https://policy.m4bl.org/) most are completely racist and bonkers! There are a few (FEW) good ideas in there that I agree with, but most make no sense like cutting military spending (please do not get me started on that.)

With all due respect to MLK, he was not the Messiah of black people. He was human; I don't pedistal him and the Black community doesn't necessarily do that either. And, if he was alive today I don't think he would have wanted black people to be able to go to integrated schools, universities and venues - just to be killed in mass, and sometimes killed on camera by an agency that has had a history of hosing, torturing and murdering minorities. Equality has been skewed, and America is one of the last Western countries to actually understand that.

I never claimed he was the "messiah of black people" that was Jesus.

So you are for segregation then? Ok, because that makes total sense. Sorry, as I stated it is a fact that more white people are killed by police each year than black people. Both and government and even washington post support this.

Equality means everybody has the same rights. Everybody in america has the same rights.
 
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FACT: More unarmed white men and killed annually by police than black men.
FACT: black men commit a huge amount of violent crimes, more than any other demographic.
FACT: Police make choices within split seconds because they have to. The past is always 20-20, in the heat of a moment, not so much.


I said sex, not sexuality. Do not bring in the alphabet group, this discussion is not about them. All americans have equal rights under the law. Nobody has "extra" rights.


Actually please go speak with some BLM people and 3rd wave feminists. To them, literally everything is either racist or sexist! If not, asking somebody where they were born would not be considered a "micro-aggression" at plenty of universities.

Most people who call bigoted tend to be the ones who actually are. To be a bigot means you are completely resistant to hearing an oppositions point of view.

Also, please stop with the "insert-here"phobic remarks. A phobia is an irrational fear that is uncontrollable to the person that it effects. It is not a choice. The word you used there absolutely makes no sense.


None of these are racist. Sexist? Maybe considering that in court women always hold the advantage but racist? Please provide the proof.
STEM jobs and programs are not racist nor sexist, maybe women tend to not WANT to choose those types of jobs? My sister is going for chemical engineering and already has her bachelors. There was nothing stopping here.
How is Academia racist except in regards to affirmative action which gives people of color a higher chance of getting into a college than a white person?
Once again please provide proof, and how is the Executive branch racist when a biracial man is currently POTUS?

Outlandish claims mean absolutely nothing unless you can back up the claim.



I completely agree that protesting is a constitutional right. PEACEFUL protests. MLK did it right with his protests. Oh I believe they exist, but that does not change the Baltimore Riots, or the Milwakee riots. Almost all protesters participated in these riots.

How is it used to oppress? If it is actually used to oppress, it is racist, but when BLM calls for the beating of white people (milwakee riots) and universities host classes to stop the white man, it is considered a good thing?

I know exactly what is in PLAY. I work in one, if not the, most diverse work place you can in America, and literally half of my family is black because my wife is black. My wife personally thinks BLM are complete nut jobs and seriously ruining the image of Black people for most everybody else.

Actually, I am. Read the BLM demands that they came out with publicly (https://policy.m4bl.org/) most are completely racist and bonkers! There are a few (FEW) good ideas in there that I agree with, but most make no sense like cutting military spending (please do not get me started on that.)



I never claimed he was the "messiah of black people" that was Jesus.

So you are for segregation then? Ok, because that makes total sense. Sorry, as I stated it is a fact that more white people are killed by police each year than black people. Both and government and even washington post support this.

Equality means everybody has the same rights. Everybody in america has the same rights.

Solutions to America's problems are best seen without rose tinted lenses...
 
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And, the race card gets thrown out because it gets USED for systematic oppreason and injustice... for many races. Maybe you keep seeing the race card because you keep ignoring what is in PLAY.

Had to add this, the race card is used primarily BY minorities! For special treatment or sympathy. And if you do not fit into what their definition of that minority is, then you "lose your ___ card"

Heck, almost everybody in BLM would call my wife a "sell-out" "race traitor" "bed wench" "white man's harlot" "oreo" because:

1) She is married to a white man
2) She speaks proper (american) english
3) She dresses herself respectfully
4) She listens almost exclusively to heavy metal/screamo and hates rap
5) She is Catholic
6) She votes republican
7) She rejects BLM

The most damaging thing to "races" is the stereotypes and that goes for everybody.
 
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Solutions to America's problems are best seen without rose tinted lenses...

I have given you NO rose tinted lenses.

The problem is everybody believes they DESERVE this and DESERVE that, nobody can be held accountable for their own faults anymore, and when you do not get your way, protest and riot.

When people stop wanting to be treated special because of their skin color, then things will start to get better. Stop the stereotypes, stop the race cards, stop blaming other people for your poor decisions, stop crying wolf!

All these do is drive a wedge in-between everybody instead of solving any issues.
 
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Right now, the only race problem is BLM and how they are so quick to demonize white people (kill all the white children) and call everything racist (milwakee riots) and want everything special because they are black (BLM demands). This is called going backwards and an over-correction for the past.
I can't agree that they are the "only" race problem. But they are sure at the forefront of the race problem.

And, IMO, Barack Obama and his lack of condemnation of them is perpetuating their lies.

They why I have said that he is part of the problem.

When a man gets 90 some percent of the vote of his race and then won't take them on and correct them where they are misrepresenting the police and whites because of political correctness - that's "racist" in my view and, at that point he's a big part of the problem in my view.

Barry could have used his bully pulpit to move race relations in this country onward in the right direction as many before him did.

But because he valued himself more than others he ended up moving them in the other direction.

I didn't personally vote for him because I am an evangelical Christian and could not in good faith do so. But along with most of my family we still felt a bit of pride that an African American had made it to the white house.

Now most of us are ashamed for him and his spineless failures.
 
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I can't agree that they are the only race problem. But they are sure at the forefront of the race problem.

And, IMO, Barack Obama and his lack of condemnation of them is perpetuating their lies.

They why I have said that he is part of the problem.

When a man gets 90 some percent of the vote of his race and then won't take them on and correct them where they are misrepresenting the police and whites because of political correctness - that's "racist" in my view.

Personally I would not call it racist, I think the word racist has been used so loosely that it no longer represents it's true definition (like feminism! hey look at that!).

The definition of Racism is: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

The definition of racist is: (n)a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another. (ad)having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.

Personally, with that you stated, I just find it irresponsible and clearly shows an agenda.
 
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The definition of Racism is: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
The definition of racist is: (n)a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another. (ad)having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
While I agree with that definition - it is, with all due respect, a bit one dimensional IMO.

Another equally valid definition of racism is found in Webster's.
racism - discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race

It is in that context that I refer to the actions and words of BLM (and Barack Obama for that matter) as being racist in nature.

As I define it - voting for a man simply because he is of your own race is a racist act; cheering for a man who almost cut the head off his wife and stabbed another man a dozen or more times simply because he is of your own race is a racist act; ignoring unfounded racist, anti police, and female degrading lyrics in the work of a rapper and inviting him to the white house simply because he is of your own race is an act of racism ; ignoring the lying and racist history of the likes of Al Sharpton simply because he is of your own race is an act of racism; prejudging the actions of the police simply because those actions were against someone of your own race is an act of racism; endorsing BLM simply because they are predominately of your own race is a racist act --- etc. etc.

I agree wholeheartedly that the "racism" card is thrown way too often. But, IMO, in many cases it really needs to be thrown and isn't.
Personally, with that you stated, I just find it irresponsible and clearly shows an agenda.
To ignore racist activity simply because it furthers a certain agenda which you would like to take place is a reprehensible act and perhaps a dishonest thing to do as well IMO.
 
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While I agree with that definition - it is, with all due respect, a bit one dimensional IMO.

Another equally valid definition of racism is found in Webster's.
racism - discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race

It is in that context that I refer to the actions and words of BLM (and Barack Obama for that matter) as being racist in nature.

As I define it - voting for a man simply because he is of your own race is a racist act; cheering for a man who almost cut the head off his wife and stabbed another man a dozen or more times simply because he is of your own race is a racist act; ignoring unfounded racist, anti police, and female degrading lyrics in the work of a rapper and inviting him to the white house simply because he is of your own race is an act of racism ; ignoring the lying and racist history of the likes of Al Sharpton simply because he is of your own race is an act of racism; prejudging the actions of the police simply because those actions were against someone of your own race is an act of racism; endorsing BLM simply because they are predominately of your own race is a racist act --- etc. etc.

I agree wholeheartedly that the "racism" card is thrown way too often. But, IMO, in many cases it really needs to be thrown and isn't.

If we are using that definition of racism, then yes everything you stated above does sound a tad racist to me.
 
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While I agree with that definition - it is, with all due respect, a bit one dimensional IMO.

Another equally valid definition of racism is found in Webster's.
racism - discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race

It is in that context that I refer to the actions and words of BLM (and Barack Obama for that matter) as being racist in nature.

As I define it - voting for a man simply because he is of your own race is a racist act; cheering for a man who almost cut the head off his wife and stabbed another man a dozen or more times simply because he is of your own race is a racist act; ignoring unfounded racist, anti police, and female degrading lyrics in the work of a rapper and inviting him to the white house simply because he is of your own race is an act of racism ; ignoring the lying and racist history of the likes of Al Sharpton simply because he is of your own race is an act of racism; prejudging the actions of the police simply because those actions were against someone of your own race is an act of racism; endorsing BLM simply because they are predominately of your own race is a racist act --- etc. etc.

I agree wholeheartedly that the "racism" card is thrown way too often. But, IMO, in many cases it really needs to be thrown and isn't.

To ignore racist activity simply because it furthers a certain agenda which you would like to take place is a reprehensible act and perhaps a dishonest thing to do as well IMO.

Al Sharpton call out racism, he doesn't perpetuate it. Many white people disapprove of his ability to bring national attention to racist situations. The real founders of BLM made an organization with the mission statement "The Black Lives Network Advocated for Dignity Justice and Respect" what's wrong with that? Many people have co-opted the name and use it for their own purposes but the original movement is not about hatred or racism. It's about bring awareness. It was started when "17-year-old Trayvon Martin was post-humously placed on trial for his own murder and the killer, George Zimmerman, was not held accountable for the crime he committed." (from the website)

Barak Obama is also not a racist
The palpable disdain with which Republicans refer to Obama is symptomatic of something far beyond partisan politics. Marco Rubio, for example, aggressively charges that Obama is trying to destroy America. It is not plausible that all of this coded language is just business as usual. Many white Americans deeply resent a man of color leading the country and will do nearly anything to delegitimize his tenure in office. The anger with which the GOP rose to demand that he surrender his Constitutional authority to nominate a replacement for Antonin Scalia is only the latest symptom of race-based antipathy.-huffpo

What can be done to help race relations in the USA is stop blaming black people for your problems. Try and walk a mile in someone else's shoes and have some understanding of how this system is hurting young black and latino people. Maybe start to befriend people of color and cross that color barrier so that we can begin to care for one another.
 
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Al Sharpton call out racism, he doesn't perpetuate it. Many white people disapprove of his ability to bring national attention to racist situations.
You've got to be kidding.

His shenanigans have been well documented for decades.

Two words should sufficed for our purposes here - Tawana Brawley.
The real founders of BLM made an organization with the mission statement "The Black Lives Network Advocated for Dignity Justice and Respect" what's wrong with that?
IN this case 8 words is all we need for our purposes here - "Pigs in a blanket - fry em like bacon."

No disavows by BLM.
Barak Obama is also not a racist
In my opinion he is just as you apparently are.

I say that because you jump to conclusions and willingly swallow and perpetuate false information simply because it makes a case for an agenda which you embrace.
The palpable disdain with which Republicans refer to Obama is symptomatic of something far beyond partisan politics.
The palpable disdain with which Republicans regard Obama is due to his racially bias pronouncements in times of crisis when he could do some good for all of us - not to mention his mentoring by a communist who hated his country and his association with known terrorists.
Many white Americans deeply resent a man of color leading the country and will do nearly anything to delegitimize his tenure in office. The anger with which the GOP rose to demand that he surrender his Constitutional authority to nominate a replacement for Antonin Scalia is only the latest symptom of race-based antipathy.
Many of us of color feel the same way about Barack Obama as Marco Rubio.

We remember the day we embraced him proudly as out first black president only to grow to be ashamed of it when he proved a traitor against the cause of Martin Luther King.
What can be done to help race relations in the USA is stop blaming black people for your problems. Try and walk a mile in someone else's shoes and have some understanding of how this system is hurting young black and latino people. Maybe start to befriend people of color and cross that color barrier so that we can begin to care for one another.
I do not blame black people for anything except what many are guilty of.

I've walked many miles in the shoes of a black man.

What has hurt young black men is the ungodly embracing of a culture which degrades women, promotes gang activity, and fathers children out of wedlock.

I have "befriended" all of my family including my grandchildren thank you very much.

I have also endeavored to educate them about the things, for example, of which you are obviously as gullible as can be.

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This post was in no way meant to "flame" a brother or sister. I'm only talking straight in an effort to set you on the right path concerning an area where you seem to have been taken in either by emotions or race hustlers and liberals of various stripes - or both.
 
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You've got to be kidding.

His shenanigans have been well documented for decades.

Two words should sufficed for our purposes here - Tawana Brawley.

IN this case 8 words is all we need for our purposes here - "Pigs in a blanket - fry em like bacon."

No disavows by BLM.

In my opinion he is just as you apparently are.

I say that because you jump to conclusions and willingly swallow and perpetuate false information simply because it makes a case for an agenda which you embrace.

The palpable disdain with which Republicans regard Obama is due to his racially bias pronouncements in times of crisis when he could do some good for all of us - not to mention his mentoring by a communist who hated his country and his association with known terrorists.

Many of us of color feel the same way about Barack Obama as Marco Rubio.

We remember the day we embraced him proudly as out first black president only to grow to be ashamed of it when he proved a traitor against the cause of Martin Luther King.

I do not blame black people for anything except what many are guilty of.

I've walked many miles in the shoes of a black man.

What has hurt young black men is the ungodly embracing of a culture which degrades women, promotes gang activity, and fathers children out of wedlock.

I have "befriended" all of my family including my grandchildren thank you very much.

I have also endeavored to educate them about the things, for example, of which you are obviously as gullible as can be.

Well alright then. I stand corrected. But I'm still in Obama's corner
 
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Dear Far Side Of The Moon. In Matthew 22: 35-40: Jesus tells us: " The first and great Commandment is: Love God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. The second is like it: love thy neighbour as thyself."
In verse 40 we are told: On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets. Short and to the point.
In Matthew 7: 7-10: we are told: " Ask and you shall receive," we ask for Love and Joy, then thank God and share all love and joy with our neighbour. ( neighbour is all we know and all we meet, friend and not friend) We keep doing this, and share all love and joy with all we know and all we meet. God will see our loving efforts, and God will approve and Bless us. We might stumble and forget at times, but then we thank God and ask for forgiveness, and carry on loving and caring.
The Bible tells us to "Repent and be Born Again," we give up all selfish wishes and desires, and start loving and caring, be kind and friendly always. The Holy Spirit will help and guide us, and Jesus our Saviour will lead us all the way: JESUS IS THE WAY. Let us remember this always, and we will find that all we come in contact with, will treat us the same as we treat them: love is very catching. Let us follow Christ and remember to treat all as we would love to be treated. God will approve and Bless us. I say this with love, Far Side Of the Moon. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
 
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Barak Obama is also not a racist
The palpable disdain with which Republicans refer to Obama is symptomatic of something far beyond partisan politics. Marco Rubio, for example, aggressively charges that Obama is trying to destroy America. It is not plausible that all of this coded language is just business as usual. Many white Americans deeply resent a man of color leading the country and will do nearly anything to delegitimize his tenure in office. The anger with which the GOP rose to demand that he surrender his Constitutional authority to nominate a replacement for Antonin Scalia is only the latest symptom of race-based antipathy.-huffpo

Is this seriously a quote from the huffingtonpost? Just wondering why the -huffpo. They are as biased as news agencies can get,

I am white and I personally don't care if the POTUS is white, black, asain, or martian. I am tired of the painting with a large brush stroke.
 
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