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Now here is the question of the day..
What is that fruit?
Are you qualified to judge the fruit of another?
What is your fruit?
Fruit is good works. I think repentance could also fall into that category. Now what is the biblical definition of the word abide? It does not mean to act in accordance with it means to remain in or remain with.
Fruit is good works?
No... not necessarily. Galatians 5:22-23
Good works can come out of the fruits of the Spirit in an able body, but in general fruit is a heart thing..
That heart thing can produce other things, but in each person "fruit" manifests itself according to the ability of the individual..
We are slaves of who we obey.It's not a deed ... it's a familial relationship. We have been adopted into God's family.
I think that it may be possible to disavow such a relationship, ... but anything short of that ending the relationship is iffy, I think ...
Unfortunately I can’t accept Ignatius’ epistles as evidence. There have been many forgeries over the years. Out of 15 epistles claimed to be written by Ignatius 8 of them have been proven without doubt to be forgeries and the other 7 are also believed to be forgeries as well due to their episcopal emphasis which was very uncommon for the time period in which they were written. They are believed to be pseudepigraphically written. Some say possibly around 220BC and others say many centuries later ranging between 550BC-1100BC.
So you are 'passively reading the bible , passively writing posts ,pâssively thinking about this thread etc. ?Hearing is passive. I don't believe faith comes by my doing a thing, but by God's action. It is God's action through the word of the Gospel that creates faith. That is why faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I am a passive agent, it is God working, creating faith in me. After all this faith is "not of yourselves, it is the gift of God" as St. Paul says in Ephesians 2:8.
That is why Christ called and commanded His Church to preach the Gospel and to baptize, because it is through these that God actually works to convert people to Himself, by His grace.
No, not all will ὑπήκουσαν (hypekousan, "under-hear" "hearken") to the Gospel, many will resist and reject it. But it is not our "yes" to the Gospel that is salvific, it is the very working of God Himself to create faith in us by His grace, His gift alone, which is salvific.
-CryptoLutheran
I hope it is still bad to wish the death of your father , in order to recieve an inheritance ?He didn't . He was supposed to have it after his father died not when he was alive , it's like wishing your father to die faster back in these times it was really bad and father would feel really bad but gave his son a chance to learn the lesson .
He didn't receive his inheritance because he spend it away and had nothing left in the end .
I hope it is still bad to wish the death of your father , in order to recieve an inheritance ?
Ignatius to smyrneans is certainly not believed to be a forgery, and in any event, that is irrelevant,because that IS what the early church did, and none contest it, which considering the earliest fathers - take iraneus were hot on heresy, they are silent in contesting the Eucharist of " real flesh" . Other fathers quote iraneus. Why so if it was forged?
ALmost all the earliest fathers speak of the bishops as central to true doctrine, because they were how the faith was passed. Iraneus gives a good account of how doctrine was passed you tradition, and that Rome had primacy, indeed - without iraneus you would not know who authored the gospels.
What you mean is... you dislike episcopal succession, so you will ignore all who say it. Despite the fact that all the way from iraneus to Augustine, they list the bishops of Rome. Why?
Now here is the question of the day..
What is that fruit?
Are you qualified to judge the fruit of another?
What is your fruit?
Yet, I think you were right to point out the passage:
But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.
What are we doing to not point out hope and faith in Jesus' love and forgiveness?
1 John 1:9 1 John 2:1-3
As much as we should search our own hearts, we should also be reminded that we can always be forgiven..
None of us are perfect, but in Christ and step by step we can overcome.
Then what about the quote "not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven??A fruitless carnal Christ-follower remains saved
Now here is the question of the day..
What is that fruit?
Are you qualified to judge the fruit of another?
What is your fruit?
A fruitless carnal Christ-follower remains saved
Then what about the quote "not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven??
I believe the servant of the master is a servant of God. The Bible gives many examples of people who will not be saved because of their actions. Here’s a few examples.
I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me. “Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing. Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers. Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned.
John 15:1-6
When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:19-21
Even now the ax of God’s judgment is poised, ready to sever the roots of the trees. Yes, every tree that does not produce good fruit will be chopped down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 3:10
Nothing evil will be allowed to enter, nor anyone who practices shameful idolatry and dishonesty—but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
Revelation 21:27
Let there be no sexual immorality, impurity, or greed among you. Such sins have no place among God’s people. Obscene stories, foolish talk, and coarse jokes—these are not for you. Instead, let there be thankfulness to God. You can be sure that no immoral, impure, or greedy person will inherit the Kingdom of Christ and of God. For a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world. Don’t be fooled by those who try to excuse these sins, for the anger of God will fall on all who disobey him.
Ephesians 5:3-6
But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit upon his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered in his presence, and he will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will place the sheep at his right hand and the goats at his left. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home. I was naked, and you gave me clothing. I was sick, and you cared for me. I was in prison, and you visited me.’ “Then these righteous ones will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink? Or a stranger and show you hospitality? Or naked and give you clothing? When did we ever see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ “And the King will say, ‘I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!’ “Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’ “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’ “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’ “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.
Matthew 25:31-46
Jesus replied, “The Son of Man is the farmer who plants the good seed. The field is the world, and the good seed represents the people of the Kingdom. The weeds are the people who belong to the evil one. The enemy who planted the weeds among the wheat is the devil. The harvest is the end of the world, and the harvesters are the angels. “Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in their Father’s Kingdom. Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand!
Matthew 13:37-43
A faithful, sensible servant is one to whom the master can give the responsibility of managing his other household servants and feeding them. If the master returns and finds that the servant has done a good job, there will be a reward. I tell you the truth, the master will put that servant in charge of all he owns. But what if the servant is evil and thinks, ‘My master won’t be back for a while,’ and he begins beating the other servants, partying, and getting drunk? The master will return unannounced and unexpected, and he will cut the servant to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 24:45-51
All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their God, and they will be my children. “But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt, murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft, idol worshipers, and all liars—their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.
Revelation 21:7-8
Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. So anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven. “And anyone who welcomes a little child like this on my behalf is welcoming me. But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea. “What sorrow awaits the world, because it tempts people to sin. Temptations are inevitable, but what sorrow awaits the person who does the tempting. So if your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one hand or one foot than to be thrown into eternal fire with both of your hands and feet. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
Matthew 18:3-10
None of these examples give any indication of excluding believers. They all apply to everyone believers included.
None of these examples give any indication of excluding believers. They all apply to everyone believers included.
Let there be no sexual immorality, impurity, or greed among you. Such sins have no place among God’s people. Obscene stories, foolish talk, and coarse jokes—these are not for you. Instead, let there be thankfulness to God. You can be sure that no immoral, impure, or greedy person will inherit the Kingdom of Christ and of God. For a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world. Don’t be fooled by those who try to excuse these sins, for the anger of God will fall on all who disobey him.
Ephesians 5:3-6
When or where ?Yea but that's what the son did by asking father to give him the inheritance .
Not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" is a Christ-follower.
This cannot be Jesus speaking about "salvation"
"the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven" will not be revealed...
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