What are your thoughts on this?

[Astrid]

The story of Noah’s Ark is not satire. You may find it humorous but that was not the intent of the author

Now you are being tiresome.

My objection to young children being taught fluid gender identity and sexual orientation has nothing to do with the Bible

Terrif.
But out there where the votes and passions are,
it's a diff story

 

[Bradskii]

I don't know that you can.

You call it out. You tell the people who say those things that they are not worthy of the term 'civilised'. What you don't do (and this isn't aimed at you) is to slide around the matter, hide your head in the sand and say you've not actually seen any threats (so I've had to post some - from the very link in the op) and even claim that those receiving the threats brought it on themselves and...get this...might have actually intended to be threatened.

What you can also do is to check to see what you are posting isn't the twisted thoughts of some homophobic low life who has an internet connection and a hatred of gay people. What you could do, rather than passing on these type of atrocious claims to any number of people is to check them out. Especially as it should be blatantly obvious that to claim that the leader of the choir group, a well respected local figure who is also a well respected and well known lawyer, could hold either position as a convicted child rapist.

What is interesting is that we take these threats far too seriously. I mean, has any of these guys been killed yet? Have any hospitals or clinics been bombed after the death threats? Have any conservatives been killed after the death threats? Or even been shot at?

Well, I guess we can wait until a gay person has been killed and then do something. Now, where could I possibly find an example of a gay person being killed simply because he or she was gay...gee, it may take me some time. Perhaps you could find an example. Or maybe dozens.

 

[BPPLEE]

Now you are being tiresome.

Terrif.
But out there where the votes and passions are,
it's a diff story

Most of them are only asking for an option to opt out of the objectionable curriculum. Muslims included

 

[BPPLEE]

You call it out. You tell the people who say those things that they are not worthy of the term 'civilised'. What you don't do (and this isn't aimed at you) is to slide around the matter, hide your head in the sand and say you've not actually seen any threats (so I've had to post some - from the very link in the op) and even claim that those receiving the threats brought it on themselves and...get this...might have actually intended to be threatened.

What you can also do is to check to see what you are posting isn't the twisted thoughts of some homophobic low life who has an internet connection and a hatred of gay people. What you could do, rather than passing on these type of atrocious claims to any number of people is to check them out. Especially as it should be blatantly obvious that to claim that the leader of the choir group, a well respected local figure who is also a well respected and well known lawyer, could hold either position as a convicted child rapist.

Well, I guess we can wait until a gay person has been killed and then do something. Now, where could I possibly find an example of a gay person being killed simply because he or she was gay...gee, it may take me some time. Perhaps you could find an example. Or maybe dozens.

Threats should always be taken seriously. People have no business making them. Often it’s the effort of a weak mind to win a debate but it should always be taken seriously

 

[ozso]

You call it out. You tell the people who say those things that they are not worthy of the term 'civilised'. What you don't do (and this isn't aimed at you) is to slide around the matter, hide your head in the sand and say you've not actually seen any threats (so I've had to post some - from the very link in the op) and even claim that those receiving the threats brought it on themselves and...get this...might have actually intended to be threatened.

What you can also do is to check to see what you are posting isn't the twisted thoughts of some homophobic low life who has an internet connection and a hatred of gay people. What you could do, rather than passing on these type of atrocious claims to any number of people is to check them out. Especially as it should be blatantly obvious that to claim that the leader of the choir group, a well respected local figure who is also a well respected and well known lawyer, could hold either position as a convicted child rapist.

Well, I guess we can wait until a gay person has been killed and then do something. Now, where could I possibly find an example of a gay person being killed simply because he or she was gay...gee, it may take me some time. Perhaps you could find an example. Or maybe dozens.

Funny how a well known lawyer hasn't had that youtube video taken down after two years. And that you haven't come across any legal action taken in over two years. That the only info you've come up with is a vague article in an obscure periodical.

You seem to be trying to avoid discussing the LGBTQQIP2SAA+ agenda of coming for our children to convert them. Proclaimed not only in a music video, but also in marching down streets enmasse like an army chating "WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDREN!".

There's nothing defendable about that. "They received threats" doesn't cancel it out. "But it's just satire" doesn't cancel it out. The LGBTQQIP2SAA+ agenda has been made quite clear by them, and that agenda is to convert children into what LGBTQQIP2SAA+ wants them and society as a whole to be. They want full support and participation from everyone. That has been made blatantly clear.

 

[Bradskii]

"But it's just satire" doesn't cancel it out.

You really don't seem to understand that it's your phrase that they are using. That's what makes it satirical. It's like a Democrat saying 'We're going to Make America Great Again. By making sure Trump gets nowhere near the White House!' Dems might have a chuckle at that. Republicans might think 'Yeah, nice one - but just wait until the election...'. And some people in this thread would be 'What? I don't get it'.

 

[Bradskii]

Funny how a well known lawyer hasn't had that youtube video taken down after two years. And that you haven't come across any legal action taken in over two years. That the only info you've come up with is a vague article in an obscure periodical.

Keith Pepper | Member of SFGMC Board of Directors | SFGMC

Get to know SFGMC board member Keith Pepper, an attorney and consultant with more than 40 years of experience in public service. Learn why he joined the board.

www.sfgmc.org

'Keith is an attorney and consultant with over 40 years of experience in public service.
After law school he became a deputy district attorney for Los Angeles County establishing and enforcing child support orders so that children from broken families are financially supported.'

Which is not this guy:

'Keith Aaron Pepper was convicted of “lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age” in 1998. There is a Keith Pepper on the list of the group’s board members.' Gay Men’s Choir That Sang ‘We’re Coming for Your Children’ Rushes to Cover After Pedophilia Accusations

 

[rjs330]

Well, I guess we can wait until a gay person has been killed and then do something. Now, where could I possibly find an example of a gay person being killed simply because he or she was gay...gee, it may take me some time. Perhaps you could find an example. Or maybe dozens.

Generally you don't see a bunch of death threats from random people on the Internet first.

It's like I said. There are a LOT of death threats out there on all kinds of people. Yet we don't see them carried out. That's all I mean.

 

[rjs330]

What you can also do is to check to see what you are posting isn't the twisted thoughts of some homophobic low life who has an internet connection and a hatred of gay people. What you could do, rather than passing on these type of atrocious claims to any number of people is to check them out. Especially as it should be blatantly obvious that to claim that the leader of the choir group, a well respected local figure who is also a well respected and well known lawyer, could hold either position as a convicted child rapist.

Right there is too much believing anything posted on the internet these days without checking it out first.

 

[ozso]

You really don't seem to understand that it's your phrase that they are using. That's what makes it satirical. It's like a Democrat saying 'We're going to Make America Great Again. By making sure Trump gets nowhere near the White House!' Dems might have a chuckle at that. Republicans might think 'Yeah, nice one - but just wait until the election...'. And some people in this thread would be 'What? I don't get it'.

It's obviously more like "why try to hide it any longer?". Now if there hadn't been any involvement with LGBTQQIP2SAA+ and children lately then it wouldn't carry any weight. However there has been an extensive amount of involvement with children. Which means they have been coming for our children in order to convert them into having an LGBTQQIP2SAA+ mindset. There isn't a "not really" clause to it. They're not just pretending it's happening. It's clearly obvious that it is happening. Really the only ones pretending are the ones claiming it's not really happening. It's like they're trying to maintain the pretence, when the cat has been let out of the bag and it's clearly visible now.

 

[rjs330]

You really don't seem to understand that it's your phrase that they are using. That's what makes it satirical.

They are finally admitting what's been happening all along. It wasn't satire. If we had no evidence of it going on and just accusations it would be. But im this case. Well, there is plenty of evidence. Yes they are doing exactly what they claim they are doing. It's not satire. And you know good and well that they knew good and well there would be issues when they did it. I mean if the guy is as smart as the say.

 

[ozso]

Keith Pepper | Member of SFGMC Board of Directors | SFGMC

Get to know SFGMC board member Keith Pepper, an attorney and consultant with more than 40 years of experience in public service. Learn why he joined the board.

www.sfgmc.org

'Keith is an attorney and consultant with over 40 years of experience in public service.
After law school he became a deputy district attorney for Los Angeles County establishing and enforcing child support orders so that children from broken families are financially supported.'

This info is very vague. Searches outside of the source you provided didn't produce any specific information.

Which is not this guy:

'Keith Aaron Pepper was convicted of “lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age” in 1998. There is a Keith Pepper on the list of the group’s board members.' Gay Men’s Choir That Sang ‘We’re Coming for Your Children’ Rushes to Cover After Pedophilia Accusations

"While the matches could be coincidental — some offenders may just happen to have the same name as members of the choir — The Western Journal unearthed at least four credible matches: David Wallace, Lawrence Earl Friedberg, Luis Cuadra and Keith Pepper".

There is a great deal of ambiguity regarding this. There are things that do not add up. If this video is making a bunch of false allegations against private citizens, why hasn't YouTube removed it after 2 years?

If a lawyer is being falsely accused, why hasn't he taken any legal action against "Nimbo" for posting that video over 2 years ago?

This should have resulted in some sort of civil legal battle, but it hasn't. There's just a vague story in an obscure periodical and a few obscure tweets and youtube user posts to go by.

It's all quite rainbow trout fishy.

 

[ozso]

They are finally admitting what's been happening all along. It wasn't satire. If we had no evidence of it going on and just accusations it would be. But im this case. Well, there is plenty of evidence. Yes they are doing exactly what they claim they are doing. It's not satire. And you know good and well that they knew good and well there would be issues when they did it. I mean if the guy is as smart as the say.

I think those who are dedicated to advocate and defend LGBTQQIP2SAA+ have been put in a bad position by this, and the best they're left with is "It was just a joke and they got death threats!".

None of them so far as I've seen have tried to defend LGBTQQIP2SAA+ marching through the streets enmasse like an army repeatedly chanting "WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDREN!". Apparently that potato is too hot to handle.

 

[ozso]

The biggest problem with this isn't LGBTQQIP2SAA+ coming for our children, it's them being given carte blanche to do so.

 

[Bradskii]

"While the matches could be coincidental — some offenders may just happen to have the same name as members of the choir — The Western Journal unearthed at least four credible matches: David Wallace, Lawrence Earl Friedberg, Luis Cuadra and Keith Pepper".

Well I guess you'll have to go back to the post where I dismantled the claims. At least for half of them. It was obviously a put up job from there on in. I suggested that you should do some of the work yourself and check out the remainder in your own time as you were the ones passing on these scurrilous lies. I even gave you the links to enable you to do it. You obviously didn't.

And to still claim that the allegations could be true is beyond belief. It only highlights how much you want them to be true.

 

[ozso]

Well I guess you'll have to go back to the post where I dismantled the claims. At least for half of them. It was obviously a put up job from there on in. I suggested that you should do some of the work yourself and check out the remainder in your own time as you were the ones passing on these scurrilous lies. I even gave you the links to enable you to do it. You obviously didn't.

So even though this goes back 2 years, the most substantial evidence you have come up with is what you yourself assembled.

And to still claim that the allegations could be true is beyond belief.

It's ambiguous, sketchy and fishy.

It only highlights how much you want them to be true.

It highlights how little there is to prove it's not true. Regardless of me being a factor, which I'm not.

One thing is for sure though - pedophies are most certainly going to join in on "we're coming for your children" as much as possible. While LGBTQQIP2SAA+ is marching though the streets repeatedly chanting "we're coming for your children" peophiles at the very least are jumping for joy.

 

[Bradskii]

So even though this goes back 2 years, the most substantial evidence you have come up with is what you yourself assembled.

Then check it out yourself! I gave you all the info you needed to do so. And you simply can't be bothered. Just ignore it if you want to. Just carry on believing it's all 'fishy'. You're not the slightest bit interested in it being a lie so do what you want. I really could care less at this point.

 

[ozso]

Then check it out yourself! I gave you all the info you needed to do so. And you simply can't be bothered. Just ignore it if you want to. Just carry on believing it's all 'fishy'. You're not the slightest bit interested in it being a lie so do what you want. I really could care less at this point.

I don't really care much either, because the number of people in that choir only makeup a tiny portion of all those involved in LGBTQQIP2SAA+'s "we're coming for your children" agenda army. It doesn't take into consideration the large number of people marching through the streets chanting "we're here, we're queer, and we're coming for your children!". How would you like to try tracking all of them down and run a case history on each?

What do you think about that btw, he large number of people marching through the streets chanting "we're here, we're queer, and we're coming for your children!"? Is that satire as well? Just a little bit of tongue-in-cheek schtick? Because they sure sounded serious to me.

Are you able to even consider the possibility that there might actually be a problem?

 

[Bradskii]

What do you think about that btw, he large number of people marching through the streets chanting "we're here, we're queer, and we're coming for your children!"? Is that satire as well? Just a little bit of tongue-in-cheek schtick? Because they sure sounded serious to me.

That's a problem that you have. You're not to going to accept that it's your problem and I'm not going to waste any more of my time explaining it.

Are you able to even consider the possibility that there might actually be a problem?

If there are people who actually want to consider children to be 'fair game', whether they are straight, gay, transexual, male or female then I think you'll be a little late to the party where these sort of people are told, in no uncertain terms, that they are not considered to be part of society. They will be exiled. They will be ostracised. I'll be at the party while you are at some meeting complaining about satirical videos.

And those type of people are not those who sing in a gay San Francisco choir, despite your original OP. Which prompts me to ask if you've spent any time checking that fact. Have you done some homework on that or would you rather not know?

 

[ozso]

That's a problem that you have. You're not to going to accept that it's your problem and I'm not going to waste any more of my time explaining it.

No comment is always a good out.

If there are people who actually want to consider children to be 'fair game', whether they are straight, gay, transexual, male or female then I think you'll be a little late to the party where these sort of people are told, in no uncertain terms, that they are not considered to be part of society. They will be exiled. They will be ostracised.

LGBTQQIP2SAA+ is the group with the out loud "we're coming for your children" campaign going on.

I'll be at the party while you are at some meeting complaining about satirical videos.

What about all the LGBTQQIP2SAA+ marching down streets yelling and chanting "we're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children!"?

Oh that's right, you've declined to comment on that.