What are your thoughts on this?

[ozso]

The thing is I could be a liberal, gay Jewish Democrat woman pretending to be someone else on an anonymous forum.
I’m not but the freedom to speak your mind here has very little to do with what I taught my child.
We all have prejudice and I was careful that he didn’t inherit that from me

Oh come on now, what are the odds of there being two gay Jewish Democrat woman pretending to be someone else in the same thread? But of course I was posting what I consider the real message being delivered to society at large.

 

[BPPLEE]

You've told me. You've told me that you did your best not to pass on your prejudices. I commend you for that. But I would suggest that you are a small exception to the rule.

Well thank you.

 

[BPPLEE]

Well, that would just be weird. The vast majority of people on forums generally, and specifically on ones that discuss religion and politics and philosophy like this one are here because they have views that they like to air. They like to argue their corner. To make an argument based on their personal view of the world. And what they say reflects their beliefs. It's probably the one place where the anonymity gets us closer to the truth of someone's character.

Likewise. And do you know why we didn't want our kids inheriting our prejudices? Because we came to realise that pre judging people is wrong. But there are so many hereabouts that are literally preaching that it's acceptable. They are saying things that we would be ashamed to hear our sons say.

And if they are so convinced of what they say, if they are arguing the same, if they are literally trying to convince us that they are right, then do you think that they won't be doing that with their own children?

You are right, I generally express what I believe but more so on here than in actual conversation

 

[Larniavc]

Darn. All this time I spent as a father making sure my kids were more generous, open to change and open to new ideas, less dogmatic, more caring and more sceptical. And I was actually abusing them!

Who knew, eh..?

I shall be having strong words with my son about not being kind to other people who are different to him.

 

[gaara4158]

I already posted the full lyrics. "You are evil and unfit so we will mold your children for you" is what's being said. Why all of a sudden is LGBTQIA+ the prime source of good qualities? Is that what we're all supposed to believe now?

I already posted the translation. You can take it how you will, but if you think it applies to you then you already believe you’re evil and unfit.

 

[gaara4158]

Oh yes, they're going to make kids into their version of better people, because they are the better people.

So you agree? It’s better to be kind, caring, and empathetic? Why not pass that on to your children, then?

 

[gaara4158]

You’re making this up as you go along.

I am literally just explaining basic logical conclusions that seem to have escaped you.

 

[ozso]

So you agree? It’s better to be kind, caring, and empathetic? Why not pass that on to your children, then?

I think those terms are euphemisms for indoctrination.

 

[BPPLEE]

I think those terms are euphemisms for indoctrination.

Gen 3:6 - When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
The Devil always makes things look better than they are

 

[Bradskii]

'Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the...'
'Don't listen to Him, guys. He's just trying to indoctrinate you!'

Sounds like a couple of lines from Life Of Brian.

 

[gaara4158]

I think those terms are euphemisms for indoctrination.

We know you think that, which is why they're making fun of you with the song. You’re unkind to them, you see, so they’ve made you the butt of a joke.

 

[ozso]

Now you’re the one making things up as you go along.

I'm not the one who said that to you.

 

[BPPLEE]

Now you’re the one making things up as you go along.

Wrong person

 

[gaara4158]

Gen 3:6 - When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
The Devil always makes things look better than they are

“Remember, if someone contradicts me and their version makes way more sense, it’s because they’re tricking you! It’s not me, with the convoluted and hateful conspiracy narrative that’s deceiving you, it’s the devil asking you to be kind that’s deceiving you!”

 

[gaara4158]

I'm not the one who said that to you.

Wrong person

Still applies.

 

[ozso]

Still applies.

How about we discuss the topic instead of exchanging personal remarks?

 

[BPPLEE]

“Remember, if someone contradicts me and their version makes way more sense, it’s because they’re tricking you! It’s not me, with the convoluted and hateful conspiracy narrative that’s deceiving you, it’s the devil asking you to be kind that’s deceiving you!”

Who says I’m not kind or told anyone not to be kind l? What about your own hateful attitude towards people who disagree with you and calling people who want to raise their own children bad parents?

 

[gaara4158]

How about we discuss the topic instead of exchanging personal remarks?

We can actually do both! It’s more fun that way anyway, don’t you think? In the meantime you can respond to my edited reply above, which is more directly tailored to our exchange.

Who says I’m not kind or told anyone not to be kind l? What about your own hateful attitude towards people who disagree with you and calling people who want to raise their own children bad parents?

You are clutching your pearls at a song with the message “if you havent taught your kids to be kind, we will.” You’re saying it for us.

 

[BPPLEE]

We can actually do both! It’s more fun that way anyway, don’t you think? In the meantime you can respond to my edited reply above, which is more directly tailored to our exchange.

You are clutching your pearls at a song with the message “if you havent taught your kids to be kind, we will.” You’re saying it for us.

You are selectively editing the song and I didn’t call anyone bad. That was you.

 

[ozso]

You are clutching your pearls at a song with the message “if you havent taught your kids to be kind, we will.” You’re saying it for us.

That song simply typifies what's actually going on, which is LGBTQQIP2SAA+ agenda in elementary schools, children's libraries, children's sports and pediatrics.