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Lol, yes. The reason my opinions are better-supported by reality is the fact that I consult reliable sources of accurate information, not just entertainment platforms.
Should Schools Notify Parents if Their Child Claims to Be Transgender?
Parental rights are central to a free society, but as this harrowing story shows, they’re under great attack.adflegal.org
Should Schools Notify Parents if Their Child Claims to Be Transgender?
Parental rights are central to a free society, but as this harrowing story shows, they’re under great attack.
Paxton Fights Back Against Liberal School District’s Attempts to Help Children Change Their “Gender Identity” Without Alerting or Involving Parents
Attorney General Paxton has joined a Montana-led amicus brief in the St. Louis-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit pushing back against woke school administrators who are encouraging students to “transition” without their parents’ knowledge or consent.www.texasattorneygeneral.gov
Maine Mom: School wrong to help, hide gender transition
A Maine woman is suing a school district saying a counselor encouraged her teen’s social gender transition without consulting her. The federal lawsuit argues parents’ rights trump state statutes allowing school counselors to keep student gender and sexuality information private. The mother says...apnews.com
California school district sued for enabling child’s gender transition and hiding it from parents - The Lion
A California school district secretly counseled an 11-year-old through a gender transition, prompting the mother to file a lawsuit. The lawsuit alleges that members of the Chico Unified School District (CUSD) in northern California encouraged a fifth-grade girl to transition without parental...readlion.com
Parents sue school officials for helping their kids transition without their knowledge
Parents are suing Massachusetts school officials for assisting their children in gender transitioning without their knowledge.aleteia.org
What, precisely, is it you’re saying is happening?
Go ahead and answer the question. Provide quotes. I’d do it for you, but this way I’m sure you’ve read the articles you’re citing.
You don’t get to make demands. Anyone reading the thread can see for themselves. I’ve already told you what is happening. Playing dumb is not a good argument for anyone
Lol, why not? You’re the one claiming there’s some sort of danger in being kind to the gays. So far all you’ve managed to drum up is parents angry their school counselors didn’t immediately shut down and report any discussion of gender with their children. Sorry, that’s not going to cut it. You don’t get to be coy about it now that someone’s actually holding your feet to the fire.
I’m not claiming any of those things. That is your imagination. I have never advocated being unkind to anyone. I’m not talking about discussions of gender. I’m talking about children transitioning at their schools without their parents knowledge. That’s what the lawsuits are about. It’s clearly happening even the New York Times and AP admit It.
If you’re not claiming that the gays are somehow after the children in a predatory sense, then you’ve had an odd way of showing it in this thread. You’re asking for news sources and academic papers demonstrating… that some nebulous and nefarious “transitioning in schools” is not happening. When asked what “transitioning” is you vaguely gesture at imagined grooming and indoctrination, but all you can muster is a handful of articles about parents angry that their kids came out as trans or gay to their teachers before coming out to them, and the school not notifying them. If that’s what “this” is, sure, it may happen. And there are plausible reasons that may be the right thing for the school to do. Your premature panic only betrays your own bias against the lgbt community.
There are a couple of problems I'd like to address. And we can use the last of the links you gave to discuss it.Parents sue school officials for helping their kids transition without their knowledge
Parents are suing Massachusetts school officials for assisting their children in gender transitioning without their knowledge.aleteia.org
That’s not what you said. You claimed that I said there was a danger in being kind to gays. I never did. I never made the claims you are attributing to me. I said it was not humorous to joke about converting children without the parents knowledge and clearly that is what is actually going on.
Read the New York Times article for an accurate account that addresses both sides of the issue. Clearly this is going on there is also an article linked from AP. Does an autistic minor child need to making decisions about getting a mastectomy without the parents involvement?There are a couple of problems I'd like to address. And we can use the last of the links you gave to discuss it.
Firstly, citing individual examples and then extrapolating them to the whole is nothing but a debate tactic. If you have an idiotic parent who is a Christian or a bad teacher in any one example then it's nonsensical to say it's representative of all Christians, all teachers or representative of the topic in question. But people on both sides of the political divide do it. It needs to stop.
Secondly, media outlets need to make a buck so online versions want you to click their link. And they will write the headlines as bait. We are all familiar with this. And this headline is no different. It gives the impression of some secret attempts by teachers to inculcate students to transition and purposely keeping that information from parents. That was not the case. It actually involves one set of parents and their two children. More details can be found here:
Parents file federal lawsuit against Ludlow school officials over gender identity protocols
Two conservative law firms filed a lawsuit on behalf of two set of parents against Ludlow schools.www.masslive.com
The facts of the matter are that one of the children appeared distressed and troubled at school. The teacher did the right thing and contacted the parents. I might note that that is not necessarily the first step in some instances. If the child appears to be suffering from abuse at home then the parents aren't the first port of call. You don't ring a father and tell him that his daughter says he's been assaulting her. There are well thought out protocols for addressing certain situations. I know because I teach young children part time and there are very definite procedures as to who needs to be told of any concerns about any child. But in this case the teacher did the right thing.
The child then disclosed to the teacher that she was having problems regarding gender. The teacher offered support and to act as a liason with her parents if needed. The parents then emailed the teacher, thanked her and said that they would be seeking professional help and please leave the matter with them and not to discuss it with their daughter.
Now, is there anything so far about secret moves to transition children? Anyone overstepping any reasonable lines of authority? Any underhand moves being made? Of course not. Everyone has done the right thing.
The girl then sent an email to the school saying that she wanted to be known by a different name and pronouns and the school complied.
Now here is the actual problem. They didn't contact the parents to tell them of the email. I personally think they should have as it wasn't anything that needed to be kept from them. And in fact might have been helpful to the parents if they had that info. Was it a big deal? Well, if I were one of the parents I would have been frustrated. The school was obviously open in contacting them in the first instance so there certainly wasn't any intentional subterfuge in keeping the child's problems from them. They had been quite open and helpful. So I put it down to them either not thinking it was important enough and the child would have told her parents in any case, or it was a simple clerical error.
Either way, it is most definitely NOT an example of some secret attempts by teachers to transition children. That conclusion, from the facts, would be completely nonsensical at best. And, in my opinion, at worst, a deliberate attempt to suggest some underhanded ideology by our educators to infiltrate the minds of our youth.
Now I'm not saying that you are being underhanded. But I'll bet that you didn't dig any deeper than the story given in your link. If the only story that you had available was the one I gave, which is where your linked story came from, I'm certain that you wouldn't have used it. Because all there was was some minor breakdown in communication and that was it. But the parents flared up and mentioned all sorts of unrelated library problems etc (you know, the usual suspects for a court case by frustrated Christian parents) and decided, as is the American way, to sue.
So, what sort of burger do we have here? One of the nothing variety I'd guess. Now do we need to go through each one that you posted to find a real example of some wrong doing? Because if we find one, that's all it will be. A teacher doing the wrong thing. Maybe needing a slap on the wrist. But what it won't be is an example of what is happening nation wide.
A 4 year old doesn’t need to be taught about non binary people. The world is confusing enough. Let them be children until they are old enough to understand these things. Oh but don’t worry I’m sure you’re correct and no one is actually trying to indoctrinate our children.
