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No one is raising children on your behalf. They’re just teaching them the good manners you didn’t. If you don’t want them learning it from the gays, tech them yourself. If you don’t want them learning it at all, you’re a bad parent.
You have no idea what I taught my child and no one has a right to tell someone else they’re a bad parent because they have different values, ideas or religious beliefs.
 
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You have no idea what I taught my child and no one has a right to tell someone else they’re a bad parent because they have different values, ideas or religious beliefs.
If you already taught your children kindness, caring, and empathy, the gays aren’t “coming for” them. You’re triggered for no reason.
 
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If you already taught your children kindness, caring, and empathy, the gays aren’t “coming for” them. You’re triggered for no reason.
They’re not making any such distinction
 
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You mean like the person who said I support pedophiles and want to make it easier for them to molest children because I don’t think 3 year olds need to discuss sexual orientation and gender identity? Just stop. Your argument is completely dishonest. You would feel differently if I made a video joking that we’re going to teach your children to accept Jesus as Savior without your knowledge. Yeah, we’d just be making fun of you because you say Christians indoctrinate children
An equivalent would be someone suggesting that we teach all children that there are people with beliefs, with faiths, who are religious. That there are many religions. That some believe that their God sent His son to die for our sins and they believe that His son is their saviour. And that we shouldn't treat those people any differently from other people because of their beliefs. That we should respect their right to their beliefs.

Do you want to do that? No problem. Absolutely none whatsoever.

So what is different to anyone teaching children that there are people who are attracted to others of the same sex and that we shouldn't treat them any differently because of that?
 
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I can translate what they’re saying, since a lot of you are having a hard time with it.

“You keep saying we’re coming for your children, as predators or groomers. We are not interested in your children in this way. But we do still have something to contribute to their development: kindness, caring, and empathy. Based on how you treat us, these aren’t things you’ve learned so there’s no reason to think you’ll impart it to them. Don’t worry, we will!”

The fact that people are mad at this only plays into their hands. Mad that your children will learn good qualities? Then you’re a bad parent.
I already posted the full lyrics. "You are evil and unfit so we will mold your children for you" is what's being said. Why all of a sudden is LGBTQIA+ the prime source of good qualities? Is that what we're all supposed to believe now?
 
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An equivalent would be someone suggesting that we teach all children that there are people with beliefs, with faiths, who are religious. That there are many religions. That some believe that their God sent His son to die for our sins and they believe that His son is their saviour. And that we shouldn't treat those people any differently from other people because of their beliefs. That we should respect their right to their beliefs.

Do you want to do that? No problem. Absolutely none whatsoever.

So what is different to anyone teaching children that there are people who are attracted to others of the same sex and that we shouldn't treat them any differently because of that?
That’s not what’s going on and you know it. I taught my child the way I saw fit I didn’t need anyone else to do it for me without my knowledge. He’s a grown man and probably agrees more with you on this issue than with me. Why do you think parents need someone else to do this for them? You gag on a fly but swallow an elephant trying to defend these people
 
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Yes they are. If a child is “changing” to become kind etc., then they weren’t before.
Oh yes, they're going to make kids into their version of better people, because they are the better people.
 
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That’s not what’s going on and you know it. I taught my child the way I saw fit I didn’t need anyone else to do it for me without my knowledge. He’s a grown man and probably agrees more with you on this issue than with me. Why do you think parents need someone else to do this for them? You gag on a fly but swallow an elephant trying to defend these people
Parents shouldn't need others to teach their children to treat gay people with respect. It should be a given. But you've seen the comments that are rife in this forum. Do you think the people who make such comments are teaching their kids kindness and respect for others, no matter what their personal preferences are in a partner?
 
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Good point
It's a nonsensical point (addressed to you because OC has me on ignore). Nobody is saying that gay people are better, let alone gay people themselves. The point is, repeated constantly, is that you don't consider someone's sexual orientation in deciding whether they deserve kindness and respect. You don't throw out terms like evil, obscene, degenerate and have them apply to anyone who is gay just because they are gay.
 
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Parents shouldn't need others to teach their children to treat gay people with respect. It should be a given. But you've seen the comments that are rife in this forum. Do you think the people who make such comments are teaching their kids kindness and respect for others, no matter what their personal preferences are in a partner?
If you can judge what kind of parent a person is from comments on an anonymous forum you have greater powers of deduction than Sherlock Holmes
 
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It's a nonsensical point (addressed to you because OC has me on ignore). Nobody is saying that gay people are better, let alone gay people themselves. The point is, repeated constantly, is that you don't consider someone's sexual orientation in deciding whether they deserve kindness and respect. You don't throw out terms like evil, obscene, degenerate and have them apply to anyone who is gay just because they are gay.
Who is arguing against that? Not me
 
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If you can judge what kind of parent a person is from comments on an anonymous forum you have greater powers of deduction than Sherlock Holmes
Since you're not onboard with turning kids over to LGBYQIA2+ to be raised properly, you're obviously a bad person and parent. But though enough LGBYQIA2+ influence on kids you'll be the last of your generation.
 
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If you can judge what kind of parent a person is from comments on an anonymous forum you have greater powers of deduction than Sherlock Holmes
You think they are hypocrites? Saying one thing anonymously on a forum and then telling their kids something completely different? In my long experience with forums, the anonymity seems to give people a freedom to express themselves in ways that reflect their true beliefs. Their true selves. In forum veritas I would suggest.

So yeah, what they say here is a reflection of their character. And you think there's some Jekyll and Hyde thing going on here? You think that as soon as they log off they're then all warm and fuzzy and preaching kindness, respect and love to all of God's children to their kids?

I'm not that naïve. And neither are you.
 
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Since you're not onboard with turning kids over to LGBYQIA2+ to be raised properly, you're obviously a bad person and parent. But though enough LGBYQIA2+ influence on kids you'll be the last of your generation.
The thing is I could be a liberal, gay Jewish Democrat woman pretending to be someone else on an anonymous forum.
I’m not but the freedom to speak your mind here has very little to do with what I taught my child.
We all have prejudice and I was careful that he didn’t inherit that from me
 
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You think they are hypocrites? Saying one thing anonymously on a forum and then telling their kids something completely different? In my long experience with forums, the anonymity seems to give people a freedom to express themselves in ways that reflect their true beliefs. Their true selves. In forum veritas I would suggest.

So yeah, what they say here is a reflection of their character. And you think there's some Jekyll and Hyde thing going on here? You think that as soon as they log off they're then all warm and fuzzy and preaching kindness, respect and love to all of God's children to their kids?

I'm not that naïve. And neither are you.
I can only speak of my own experiences. You know nothing about what I taught my son from reading posts on an anonymous forum
 
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The thing is I could be a liberal, gay Jewish Democrat woman pretending to be someone else on an anonymous forum.
Well, that would just be weird. The vast majority of people on forums generally, and specifically on ones that discuss religion and politics and philosophy like this one are here because they have views that they like to air. They like to argue their corner. To make an argument based on their personal view of the world. And what they say reflects their beliefs. It's probably the one place where the anonymity gets us closer to the truth of someone's character.
I’m not but the freedom to speak your mind here has very little to do with what I taught my child.
We all have prejudice and I was careful that he didn’t inherit that from me
Likewise. And do you know why we didn't want our kids inheriting our prejudices? Because we came to realise that pre judging people is wrong. But there are so many hereabouts that are literally preaching that it's acceptable. They are saying things that we would be ashamed to hear our sons say.

And if they are so convinced of what they say, if they are arguing the same, if they are literally trying to convince us that they are right, then do you think that they won't be doing that with their own children?
 
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I can only speak of my own experiences. You know nothing about what I taught my son from reading posts on an anonymous forum
You've told me. You've told me that you did your best not to pass on your prejudices. I commend you for that. But I would suggest that you are a small exception to the rule.
 
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