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Some Christians do. Some do not.They know how to teach them good.
Maybe you should read a bit more of this thread before jumping in.It does not need to be a part of our education system. PERIOD. You "want it". School choice should provide the freedom to us all to see to that right of what we do and do not want then. see equality,in freedom should allow for us all to live in harmony and tolerance in this here great country!!!! .
That too is irrelevant. There will always be the "sick" that choose to do what they know is not good. Which all can make laws regarding because all, even those who do choose to do wickedly know the difference. That is what laws are for.Some Christians do. Some do not.
Well I was addressing a post where you made it about the bible, targeting ChristiansThis is a discussion about personal development in schools.
And that is your decision to think so.I do not think that schools are 'sexualising children' in personal education sessions as another poster has claimed.
Then don't.I am not trying to attack your Bible.
I don't think I did. I referred to religious education in schools, which is not done in some countries but is compulsory in mine. I made what is a valid and uncontested point that it has made no appreciable difference to the moral climate in France compared to the UK.Well I was addressing a post where you made it about the bible, targeting Christians
Nobody has mentioned the government. I think you might be asking what place the Law has in the care of children. Parents are not above the Law; there must be limits on what they can do with their children but as far as I know there is no law against bringing up children according to parental beliefs.Does that mean the government should take precedence over the parents when it comes to raising their own children?
Yes, that is what it is.I like the way you carefully word that in such an obviously euphemistic manner to gloss it over. It's material teaching young children all about sexual orientations, sexual preferences, gender choices being gender fluid, gender queer, all the verieties of transexualism, transvestitism, etc.
There are attempts being made. What in the world do you think all the hoopla is about? Good grief.Nobody has mentioned the government. I think you might be asking what place the Law has in the care of children. Parents are not above the Law; there must be limits on what they can do with their children but as far as I know there is no law against bringing up children according to parental beliefs.
Yes, that is what it is.
Do you prefer to keep children in ignorance of these aspects of the society they live in? You will fail if that is your aim. Children will learn the facts somehow. Better to learn it in a calm, informative way than to pick up scraps in the playground or through inappropriate sources.
All my posts are carefully worded.
Do you prefer to keep children in ignorance of these aspects of the society they live in?
You will fail if that is your aim. Children will learn the facts somehow. Better to learn it in a calm, informative way than to pick up scraps in the playground or through inappropriate sources.
To your advantage.All my posts are carefully worded.
When you mention public schools you are talking about the state and federal governmentsNobody has mentioned the government. I think you might be asking what place the Law has in the care of children. Parents are not above the Law; there must be limits on what they can do with their children but as far as I know there is no law against bringing up children according to parental beliefs.
That is irrelevant to the business of education. children will hear about the issues arising from sexual dysphoria. It is all over the media. People on this forum obsess about it all the time. There will be children in the same school, perhaps the same class, who are worried about their sexuality - yes, at an early age. The time when children never heard about these things is long gone. They are social issues which cannot be simply erased.Absolutely agree that we as the parents and caregivers, shall offer the children facts. For example, humans born with male genitalia are called boys. Humans born with female genitalia are called girls. Proven fact. Proven beyond acknowledgement.
I disagree. It should be in a safe, controlled environment - across the kitchen table or in the classroom, but in a proper moral setting. It is when families cannot or will not discuss these matters that children get the wrong end of the stick.Children under the age of elementary grades do not need to be schooled about sexual orientation. They aren’t in need to have sex,
nor understanding what masturbation means. Or making out or having babies or
Touching others in their privates or sharing sexual stories or fantasies.
I think that last remark is unhelpful, not to say sarcastic. True, I put my case as well as I can. Then I reread my posts. Do the same. I want no less.To your advantage.
I thought your schools were governed by Boards and county authorities and such like - a bit like ours. The only way governments can intervene is through the passing of laws. I don't usually much like the results of distant authorities interfering in local affairs and for the most part they don't.When you mention public schools you are talking about the state and federal governments
That's what you said. Please keep it straight will you. I said they were CONVERTING kids and also gave a long list on how. You say they are just trying to teach kids to be good and accepting. Minimizing what they are doing and trying to push it into the realm of what you wish they were doing. You are denying reality.It's literally what you said they were doing. Now you say it's not what they are doing.
'...they are teaching kids to be good and accepting of others.'
Pick a lane. Please.
Really? A kid at twelve days she thinks she might be a boy and so the parents and teacher, counselors and clinicians all jp on that and push the girl into becoming a boy, feed her drugs change her pronouns and names eventually encouraging her to cut off her breasts and you think beauty pageant parents need help?One is sex, the other is gender.
If a 12 year old says she's confused about her gender, she needs our help. If the parents of a 12 year old say that they are going to present her in a competition with make up, lipstick, high heels, bouffant hair etc. then those parents need help.
Now you agree with both of those statements. How we help the first girl is a debatable point. But we'd both agree she needs it. What can possibly be said in defence of the second?
And please don't try to make any sort of point by trying to defend it. Any post that starts with the word 'So...' will be ignored.
Well they are well equipped to make a decision on being the opposite sex. What's the difference?Wow! You should think that through. Children as young as five are equipped to make a decision like that? Really?
That's the lefts view. Hey if they sexualize their little boys by letting them dress up in sexy girls outfits, wear make up, high heels and dance twerking in front of adults when throw money at him it's just fine and should applauded. The left thinks that's wonderful. But the they get all bent out of shape at beauty pageants? Where oh where is the common sense?Schools do not put on such things. These pageants sexualise little girls, something you have expressed an opinion about. I think it is relevant to the discussion since you consider that anything that parents authorise for their children is all right by you.
https://reason.com/volokh/2022/03/21/who-decides-what-is-taught-in-government-run-k-12-schools/#:~:text=Usually%20it's%20done%20by%20administrators,department%20heads%20in%20other%20departments.I thought your schools were governed by Boards and county authorities and such like - a bit like ours. The only way governments can intervene is through the passing of laws. I don't usually much like the results of distant authorities interfering in local affairs and for the most part they don't.
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