What are we to do respecting the Ten Commandments?

[Xeno.of.athens]

xeno, the bible was given to us so we can start to know GOD, it represents the word of GOD but is only a book.

It is a book, it is definitely not God.

 

[Always in His Presence]

It is a book, it is definitely not God.

It is also His word, His will and it is inerrant and infallible.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Pray for me bothers [and sisters].

Pray for. Not to.

Pray to Jesus, the ONLY mediator

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

It is also His word, His will and it is inerrant and infallible.

The bible? The bible is holy scripture, it is inspired.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Pray for. Not to.

Pray to Jesus, the ONLY mediator

If only your posts would define "mediator", "intercede" and "pray"

 

[Always in His Presence]

If only your posts would define "mediator", "intercede" and "pray"

Have you caught the message yet?

One who claims another is in idolatry, while participating in an idolatry themselves has no ground to stand on.

Theology should bring us together - not drive us apart - that is why there are so many different denominations and sects. Even the Roman Catholic Church is not in unity any more.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Have you caught the message yet?

One who claims another is in idolatry, while participating in an idolatry themselves has no ground to stand on.

Theology should bring us together - not drive us apart - that is why there are so many different denominations and sects. Even the Roman Catholic Church is not in unity any more.

That's all untrue.

 

[Always in His Presence]

That's all untrue.

That is 100% True - even if you do not agree -

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

That is 100% True - even if you do not agree -

Nope, it is all untrue.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Nope, it is all untrue.

Nope, it is all true

What next? nanny nanny boo boo?

Our our Theology should bring us together instead of separate us?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Theology should bring us together - not drive us apart - that is why there are so many different denominations and sects. Even the Roman Catholic Church is not in unity any more.

Our our Theology should bring us together instead of separate us?

That's the message i am trying to get across.

Blessed are the Peacemakers - yeah, I read that somewhere.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

What next? nanny nanny boo boo?

That's about what I expect.

 

[timothyu]

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

 

[Always in His Presence]

That's about what I expect.

It's a shame that you didn't read the rest of the post.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

It's a shame that you didn't read the rest of the post.

But I did.

 

[Always in His Presence]

But I did.

Then please - respond to post 291 - looking forward to it.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

That's the message i am trying to get across.

Blessed are the Peacemakers - yeah, I read that somewhere.

There's nothing to answer.

 

[timothyu]

Like I've said, God in His wisdom carried His truth forward in scripture. Scripture which could be ignored but not deleted. But the time of these Gentiles is coming to an end. Jesus' teachings and His Gospel, not the religion, will return. First as a reminder, then as a future way of life for those worthy. This was the original meaning of repentance. Change the way of thinking and acting. A simple 'sorry' as taught today will simply not do.

 

[Bob S]

The commandment requires everyone to rest regardless of religion.

Is that per Xeno or did you find that some place in the Holy Writ?

Actually, the Ten Commandments were given ONLY to one nation, Israel. Nowhere in all of scripture does God ever require any other nation to observe any day. Paul even wrote that the Ten Commandments WERE temporary for the Jews. Read 2Cor3:6-11. They certainly were not by any means defining all the sins man commits. Are you aware that there is not one word in the Ten Commandments about LOVE? Love is the greatest command God has ever given. Love commands are found in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Jesus amplified LOVE in Jn 15:9-14. 1JN3:19-24 tells us that we are of the truth if we believe in Jesus and love one another as He commanded.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Is that per Xeno or did you find that some place in the Holy Writ?

Actually, the Ten Commandments were given ONLY to one nation, Israel. Nowhere in all of scripture does God ever require any other nation to observe any day. Paul even wrote that the Ten Commandments WERE temporary for the Jews. Read 2Cor3:6-11. They certainly were not by any means defining all the sins man commits. Are you aware that there is not one word in the Ten Commandments about LOVE? Love is the greatest command God has ever given. Love commands are found in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Jesus amplified LOVE in Jn 15:9-14. 1JN3:19-24 tells us that we are of the truth if we believe in Jesus and love one another as He commanded.

The essence of the Sabbath is rest. Jesus rebuked those who tried to use the Sabbath to abuse men, saying "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath". And so while the outward command of observing a specific day applied only to the Jews under the Old Covenant, and therefore no Christian is under any obligation to observe the Sabbath in its outward sense (for the fulfilment of the Sabbath is found in the Messiah, in whom we have our true rest); the essence of the Sabbath has not been abrogated. It has not become acceptable to exploit man or beast, creatures need a rest from their bodily labors, and God cares about this. And so we can, rightfully, find the Christian sense in the Third Commandment: There must be a time of rest, human beings cannot live and flourish in conditions that deprive them of rest; for we must indeed labor to survive in this harsh world, but so also we must have time to cease from our labors. And if we deny rest, such as an employer to their employees, or a master to his servants, or even a rancher to his beasts of burden (for God is concerned with the just treatment even of beasts and the land itself) such is a cruelty that denies the very Commandment, the Great Commandment, that says, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself". And it denies the fundamental dignity of man, and the goodness of creation.

For human beings were made not to cruelly tyrannize; but to govern and rule creation justly as the Image-bearers of God. In Christ, the Image is restored, and we in Christ are to live out our human vocation in accordance with God's justice.

This is why, I believe, Dr. Luther could say in the Large Catechism:

"Now, in the Old Testament, God separated the seventh day, and appointed it for rest, and commanded that it should be regarded as holy above all others. As regards this external observance, this commandment was given to the Jews alone, that they should abstain from toilsome work, and rest, so that both man and beast might recuperate, and not be weakened by unremitting labor. Although they afterwards restricted this too closely, and grossly abused it, so that they traduced and could not endure in Christ those works which they themselves were accustomed to do on that day, as we read in the Gospel; just as though the commandment were fulfilled by doing no external, [manual] work whatever, which, however, was not the meaning, but, as we shall hear, that they sanctify the holy day or day of rest.

This commandment, therefore, according to its gross sense, does not concern us Christians; for it is altogether an external matter, like other ordinances of the Old Testament, which were attached to particular customs, persons, times, and places, and now have been made free through Christ.

But to grasp a Christian meaning for the simple as to what God requires in this commandment, note that we keep holy days not for the sake of intelligent and learned Christians (for they have no need of it [holy days]), but first of all for bodily causes and necessities, which nature teaches and requires; for the common people, man-servants and maid-servants, who have been attending to their work and trade the whole week, that for a day they may retire in order to rest and be refreshed." - Source (The Ten Commandments)

-CryptoLutheran