What are we to do respecting the Ten Commandments?

[timothyu]

Actually, the Ten Commandments were given ONLY to one nation, Israel. Nowhere in all of scripture does God ever require any other nation to observe any day. Paul even wrote that the Ten Commandments WERE temporary for the Jews. Read 2Cor3:6-11. They certainly were not by any means defining all the sins man commits. Are you aware that there is not one word in the Ten Commandments about LOVE? Love is the greatest command God has ever given. Love commands are found in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Jesus amplified LOVE in Jn 15:9-14. 1JN3:19-24 tells us that we are of the truth if we believe in Jesus and love one another as He commanded.

But the 10 C's were based on what God said from the beginning in the Garden, His will/wisdom before the will of man. That applies to all and at any time in existence. Once man got selfish and put their will first they gained access to awareness of good and evil but did not and still do not, have the wisdom to use it correctly.. still being for the most part thinking selfishly rather than in servitude to God and each other as commanded all through the Bible. The minute we've self-justified our own wisdom, we have doomed ourselves.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Is that per Xeno or did you find that some place in the Holy Writ?

Actually, the Ten Commandments were given ONLY to one nation, Israel. Nowhere in all of scripture does God ever require any other nation to observe any day. Paul even wrote that the Ten Commandments WERE temporary for the Jews. Read 2Cor3:6-11. They certainly were not by any means defining all the sins man commits. Are you aware that there is not one word in the Ten Commandments about LOVE? Love is the greatest command God has ever given. Love commands are found in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Jesus amplified LOVE in Jn 15:9-14. 1JN3:19-24 tells us that we are of the truth if we believe in Jesus and love one another as He commanded.

Isaiah 56:6-7 (NKJV):
"Also the sons of the foreigner who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and holds fast My covenant—even them I will bring to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on My altar; for My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations."

this means or All! not just Israel it is clear!


Mark 2:27 (NKJV):
"And He said to them, ‘The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.’" means all mankind ALL!

Matthew 28:19-20 (NKJV):
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
It means The commandments are for ALL!

Ecclesiastes 12:13 (NKJV):
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is man’s all."

it is written MAN not Israel! this means again ALL!

 

[setst777]

Question: if the Ten Commandments are eternal why did Paul write the following in1Cor3:7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!

If I am not mistaken Paul indicates that the Ten commandments were transitory (temporary). The power of the Holy Spirit was poured out at Penticost and Paul indicates in verse 8 it replaced the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments WERE the guide for Israel. The Holy Spirit is the eternal guide for all mankind. Notice when referring to the Ten Commandments Paul used the past tense.

Jesus in Jn 15:9 said: “As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

What were the commands Jesus kept? Of course it was Torah, all of the Law given at Sinai. Without the book of the Law the Ten Commandments would not have any consequences except for one, honoring our parents. The Book of the Law had to be part of the laws of the old covenant. It declared the Levites immune from regular observance of Sabbath. It provided the authority to punish those who violated any of the commands and established all of the Holy days. It taught the Israelites how to live and exist in the Holy Land. If as some try to indicate, we are still under the dictates of that covenant we sure are not following most of the of those dictates.

If what some are trying to make us believe we are under the laws of the Old Covenant, then what hope do any of us have?

The Law is eternal, and we fulfill the Law by following Lord Jesus into a sanctified life onto the righteousness of Love with the help of God's Spirit dwelling in those who believe in Jesus as their Lord and Savior. This is how we walk in the Light.

Romans 13:8 (NKJV) Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

John 8:12 (WEB) He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.

Romans 8:12-14 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are obligated, but it is not to the flesh to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will Die. But if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will Live. 14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

 

[Bob S]

The Law is eternal, and we fulfill the Law by following Lord Jesus into a sanctified life onto the righteousness of Love with the help of God's Spirit dwelling in those who believe in Jesus as their Lord and Savior. This is how we walk in the Light.

If the Law, Ten Commandments, are eternal, then why did Paul tell us in 2Cor3:6-11 that they WERE transitory (temporary? The Ten Commandments WERE a starting point for those who came out of bondage. Were those ten commands the only sins the Israel was responsible for? All the laws dealing with morality are forever. Are you aware that there is not one word in all of the Ten Commandments about the greatest command ever given, LOVE?

Romans 13:8 (NKJV) Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

If we are under the Ten Commandments why would Paul write such a thing. Wouldn't Paul have included keeping Sabbath if it is something that all mankind must do. How could loving everyone fulfill the Sabbath obligation?

John 8:12 (WEB) He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.

So, is that telling me that since I do not observe a day I am in darkness?

Romans 8:12-14 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are obligated, but it is not to the flesh to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will Die. But if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will Live. 14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

The Spirit has never pricked my heart telling me I must observe a day. I observe that there are millions of brothers and sisters that love our Savior and serve Him to the upmost that do not observe the old covenant Seventh-day Sabbath. I wonder why God has not pricked their hearts
The Seventh-day Adventist church spends millions trying to teach those that attend their rallies that they must observe the Sabbath and yet only a handful respond? Wouldn't that be the most opportune time for the Holy Spirit to work on the hearts of the attendees? Even those who they convince, many of them go out the back door after a while. Do you really believe that all the Christians in the World will be lost unless they observe the Sabbath? Is that the test of being a true Christian? Your prophet writings on the subject reveal this. Think about all my questions.

I thank the Holy Spirit for giving me the tools to understand the real truth and I was able to escape the heavy thumb of the SDAs.

 

[Bob S]

The essence of the Sabbath is rest. Jesus rebuked those who tried to use the Sabbath to abuse men, saying "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath". And so while the outward command of observing a specific day applied only to the Jews under the Old Covenant, and therefore no Christian is under any obligation to observe the Sabbath in its outward sense (for the fulfilment of the Sabbath is found in the Messiah, in whom we have our true rest); the essence of the Sabbath has not been abrogated. It has not become acceptable to exploit man or beast, creatures need a rest from their bodily labors, and God cares about this. And so we can, rightfully, find the Christian sense in the Third Commandment: There must be a time of rest, human beings cannot live and flourish in conditions that deprive them of rest; for we must indeed labor to survive in this harsh world, but so also we must have time to cease from our labors. And if we deny rest, such as an employer to their employees, or a master to his servants, or even a rancher to his beasts of burden (for God is concerned with the just treatment even of beasts and the land itself) such is a cruelty that denies the very Commandment, the Great Commandment, that says, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself". And it denies the fundamental dignity of man, and the goodness of creation.

For human beings were made not to cruelly tyrannize; but to govern and rule creation justly as the Image-bearers of God. In Christ, the Image is restored, and we in Christ are to live out our human vocation in accordance with God's justice.

This is why, I believe, Dr. Luther could say in the Large Catechism:

"Now, in the Old Testament, God separated the seventh day, and appointed it for rest, and commanded that it should be regarded as holy above all others. As regards this external observance, this commandment was given to the Jews alone, that they should abstain from toilsome work, and rest, so that both man and beast might recuperate, and not be weakened by unremitting labor. Although they afterwards restricted this too closely, and grossly abused it, so that they traduced and could not endure in Christ those works which they themselves were accustomed to do on that day, as we read in the Gospel; just as though the commandment were fulfilled by doing no external, [manual] work whatever, which, however, was not the meaning, but, as we shall hear, that they sanctify the holy day or day of rest.

This commandment, therefore, according to its gross sense, does not concern us Christians; for it is altogether an external matter, like other ordinances of the Old Testament, which were attached to particular customs, persons, times, and places, and now have been made free through Christ.

But to grasp a Christian meaning for the simple as to what God requires in this commandment, note that we keep holy days not for the sake of intelligent and learned Christians (for they have no need of it [holy days]), but first of all for bodily causes and necessities, which nature teaches and requires; for the common people, man-servants and maid-servants, who have been attending to their work and trade the whole week, that for a day they may retire in order to rest and be refreshed." - Source (The Ten Commandments)

-CryptoLutheran

Thanks, my brother in Christ. As Luther reiterated, Jews are free in Christ. Gentiles were never under the Law. We were always free from ceremonies given to only one nation. Those who believe the Ten Commandments are for eternity do not understand the Plan of Salvation formulated before the foundation of the Earth. God knew the Israelites would fail to keep the covenant given at Sinai, so it was a temporary covenant. Everything contained in that covenant was temporary. That is why Paul could write what he did in 2Cor3. All mankind is under the commands of Jesus. His command is for us to love others as He loves us. If we obey His command, we will never overwork our fellow man. We will make every effort to make life enjoyable for ourselves and those who are under our care. That is part of the command to love.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Thanks, my brother in Christ. As Luther reiterated, Jews are free in Christ. Gentiles were never under the Law. We were always free from ceremonies given to only one nation. Those who believe the Ten Commandments are for eternity do not understand the Plan of Salvation formulated before the foundation of the Earth. God knew the Israelites would fail to keep the covenant given at Sinai, so it was a temporary covenant. Everything contained in that covenant was temporary. That is why Paul could write what he did in 2Cor3. All mankind is under the commands of Jesus. His command is for us to love others as He loves us. If we obey His command, we will never overwork our fellow man. We will make every effort to make life enjoyable for ourselves and those who are under our care. That is part of the command to love.

You think like this because you do not understand the covenant(s) and what they mean. Yo are stuck in Exodus and Deuteronomy, this was the beginning of many things, so much happened after that and so much more to come, I hope you will understand one day. the writings of Paul are misunderstood by many and you are one of them and wont Listen.

Peace.

 

[KevinT]

Are you aware that there is not one word in all of the Ten Commandments about the greatest command ever given, LOVE?

Matt 12:28-34

The Greatest Commandment​

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.


@Bob S is correct that the word Love doesn't appear in the 10 commandments. But it has been pointed out by others in the past, that first part of the decalogue deals with our relationship with God, and the second part with how we relate to our fellow man. Sometimes the list is even displayed this way, as in this image.

And Jesus was summarizing all the law, including the 10 commandments, down to these two points when speaking with the teacher.

So while the word Love is not in the 10 commandments, Jesus shows us that the principle of love is its core foundation. How can we love God when we put other gods before Him. How can we love our neighbor when we steal from them?

Best wishes,
Kevin

 

[setst777]

If the Law, Ten Commandments, are eternal, then why did Paul tell us in 2Cor3:6-11 that they WERE transitory (temporary? The Ten Commandments WERE a starting point for those who came out of bondage. Were those ten commands the only sins the Israel was responsible for? All the laws dealing with morality are forever. Are you aware that there is not one word in all of the Ten Commandments about the greatest command ever given, LOVE?

The Ten Commandments are not transitory; for God is Holy, and he does not change. Rather, the obeying of the written Law was transitory. Christians fulfill the Law not by trying to obey the written code, but by faith, manifested by walking in the Spirit of Christ.

Romans 8:3-4 (WEB) 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Galatians 5:13-25 (NIV) Paul addressing born-again believers who have the Spirit 13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

That is how we walk in the Spirit, which fulfills the ordinance of the Law that could not be fulfilled by obeying the written code, because the written code causes rebellion from our sinful nature.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law worked in our members to bring out fruit to death. 6 But now we have been discharged from the law, having died to that in which we were held; so that we serve in newness of the spirit, and not in oldness of the letter. . . .18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don’t find it doing that which is good. 19 For the good which I desire, I don’t do; but the evil which I don’t desire, that I practice.

If we are under the Ten Commandments why would Paul write such a thing. Wouldn't Paul have included keeping Sabbath if it is something that all mankind must do. How could loving everyone fulfill the Sabbath obligation?

We fulfill the Sabbath obligation by living as a Holy Priesthood to God. Spiritually, we are always living in the grace of God's Rest seven days a week as we crucify ourselves to God, giving spiritual worship to him. Every day is a seventh day for the Christian's soul.

Romans 12:1-2 (WEB) Therefore I urge you, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service. 2 Don’t be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what is the good, well-pleasing, and perfect will of God.

So, is that telling me that since I do not observe a day I am in darkness?

The Spirit has never pricked my heart telling me I must observe a day. I observe that there are millions of brothers and sisters that love our Savior and serve Him to the upmost that do not observe the old covenant Seventh-day Sabbath. I wonder why God has not pricked their hearts
The Seventh-day Adventist church spends millions trying to teach those that attend their rallies that they must observe the Sabbath and yet only a handful respond? Wouldn't that be the most opportune time for the Holy Spirit to work on the hearts of the attendees? Even those who they convince, many of them go out the back door after a while. Do you really believe that all the Christians in the World will be lost unless they observe the Sabbath? Is that the test of being a true Christian? Your prophet writings on the subject reveal this. Think about all my questions.

I thank the Holy Spirit for giving me the tools to understand the real truth and I was able to escape the heavy thumb of the SDAs.

Good points. Christians observe the Sabboth by remaining in the Faith manifested in a sanctified life onto the righteousness of Love. These are the only "Christians" who live in the Rest that Christ gives us spiritually.

Matthew 11:28-29 (WEB) 28 “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart; and you will find rest for your souls.

As the believer continues in the faith, walking by the light (righteousness and love), he is forgiven of any sins he commits in weakness; and so, the believer remains pure and sanctified onto God, and his soul finds rest.

1 John 1:5-7 (WEB) 5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we [Christians] say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don’t tell the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.

 

[Bob S]

Matt 12:28-34

The Greatest Commandment​

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.


@Bob S is correct that the word Love doesn't appear in the 10 commandments. But it has been pointed out by others in the past, that first part of the decalogue deals with our relationship with God, and the second part with how we relate to our fellow man. Sometimes the list is even displayed this way, as in this image.

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And Jesus was summarizing all the law, including the 10 commandments, down to these two points when speaking with the teacher.

So while the word Love is not in the 10 commandments, Jesus shows us that the principle of love is its core foundation. How can we love God when we put other gods before Him. How can we love our neighbor when we steal from them?

Best wishes,
Kevin

Any command that deals with morality stands forever. There are many issues other than the 9 found in the ten. The command to observe the Sabbath was based on two events. One was creation and the other one was Israel's flight out of bondage in Egypt. The Sabbath command was directed to only Israel and was a ritual command. Paul has made it very clear that the old covenant's Ten Commandment's are no longer the guide for Israel.. It never was the guide for Gentile nations.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Any command that deals with morality stands forever. There are many issues other than the 9 found in the ten. The command to observe the Sabbath was based on two events. One was creation and the other one was Israel's flight out of bondage in Egypt. The Sabbath command was directed to only Israel and was a ritual command. Paul has made it very clear that the old covenant's Ten Commandment's are no longer the guide for Israel.. It never was the guide for Gentile nations.

@Bob S
No BOB the Sabbath command is part of the 10 Commandments and is a sign between man and GOD, it is a test of obedience and also it is good for us. It is a Moral command and respect of the sabbath command shows that we love GOD, if you Love GOD you will follow it! It is a Moral Command! and it stands.

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”
Exodus 20:8-11 (NKJV)

"Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: 'Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you.'"
(Exodus 31:13, NKJV)​

The Sabbath is not just a day of rest; it is a day that has deep spiritual significance, a day set apart for us to remember God. When God says, "Remember the Sabbath day," He’s not simply asking us to take a break from work. He is inviting us to reflect on the meaning of the Sabbath itself, to pause and remember the role God plays in our lives as Creator, Provider, and Sanctifier. This command to “remember” calls us to reflect on God’s work in creation and in our lives. It’s a reminder that God created the world in six days, and on the seventh day, He rested not because He was tired, but as an example for us. He sanctified the seventh day, making it holy, and set it aside for us to rest and reconnect with Him.

Isaiah offers further insight into how we can follow the Sabbath in a way that pleases God. In Isaiah 58:13-14 (NKJV), God gives specific instructions on how to honor the Sabbath beyond just refraining from work:

"If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the Lord honorable, and shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words, then you shall delight yourself in the Lord; and I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father. The mouth of the Lord has spoken."​

Isaiah teaches that the Sabbath is not just about physical rest but also about spiritual focus. We are to turn away from our own pleasures, our distractions, and our busy pursuits. The Sabbath is meant to be a time to delight in God—not just in rest, but in worship, reflection, and seeking Him. We should make the Sabbath a day of honoring God, where we focus on what He values and allow ourselves to be refreshed in His presence.

By keeping the Sabbath as a time of spiritual renewal and rest, we experience the promise that God will delight in us and bless us. The Sabbath becomes more than just a day off it becomes a day of reconnection with God, a reminder that true rest is found in Him, and a day to live out our trust in His provision and care. In a world that is constantly moving, the Sabbath invites us to pause, remember, and find rest in the God who gives us all we need.

Peace

 

[timothyu]

Did the Hebrew people keep the Sabbath while in Egypt ?

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Did the Hebrew people keep the Sabbath while in Egypt ?

they did not! the sabbath command was given after their escape from Egypt in the desert.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

they did not! the sabbath command was given after their escape from Egypt in the desert.

There is no record of the keeping Sabbath, they were slaves and worked when their masters demanded.

 

[Bob S]

@Bob S
No BOB the Sabbath command is part of the 10 Commandments and is a sign between man and GOD, it is a test of obedience and also it is good for us. It is a Moral command and respect of the sabbath command shows that we love GOD, if you Love GOD you will follow it! It is a Moral Command! and it stands.

Where have I ever stated that the Sabbath wasn't part of the now done away Ten commandments? 2Cor3: 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. KJV

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”
Exodus 20:8-11 (NKJV)
"Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: 'Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you.'"
(Exodus 31:13, NKJV)​

Who was God speaking to???? EX31:13 “Tell the people of Israel: ‘Be careful to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you from generation to generation. It is given so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy. Sabbath keeping would have made the Israelites Holy. Jesus today is our Savior that make us Holy. We come to Him for Rest.

The Sabbath is not just a day of rest; it is a day that has deep spiritual significance, a day set apart for us to remember God.

No, it WAS a day to set apart the Israelites to remember God, not us.

When God says, "Remember the Sabbath day," He’s not simply asking us to take a break from work. He is inviting us to reflect on the meaning of the Sabbath itself,

God never included US. It was Israel.

to pause and remember the role God plays in our lives as Creator, Provider, and Sanctifier. This command to “remember” calls us to reflect on God’s work in creation and in our lives.

Again, not US. It was never about us, it was always about the Israelites.

It’s a reminder that God created the world in six days, and on the seventh day, He rested not because He was tired, but as an example for us them. He sanctified the seventh day, making it holy, and set it aside for us them to rest and reconnect with Him.

Isaiah offers further insight into how we can follow the Sabbath in a way that pleases God. In Isaiah 58:13-14 (NKJV), God gives specific instructions on how to honor the Sabbath beyond just refraining from work:

"If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the Lord honorable, and shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words, then you shall delight yourself in the Lord; and I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father. The mouth of the Lord has spoken."​

Is Jacob your father? God was not referring to Gentile nations. It was Israel only.

Isaiah teaches that the Sabbath is not just about physical rest but also about spiritual focus. We are to turn away from our own pleasures, our distractions, and our busy pursuits. The Sabbath is meant to be a time to delight in God—not just in rest, but in worship, reflection, and seeking Him. We should make the Sabbath a day of honoring God, where we focus on what He values and allow ourselves to be refreshed in His presence.

Once again you are including WE without any proof that God has ever asked or demanded WE keep a day given only to one nation.

By keeping the Sabbath as a time of spiritual renewal and rest, we experience the promise that God will delight in us and bless us. The Sabbath becomes more than just a day off it becomes a day of reconnection with God, a reminder that true rest is found in Him, and a day to live out our trust in His provision and care. In a world that is constantly moving, the Sabbath invites us to pause, remember, and find rest in the God who gives us all we need.

Jesus is enough. We are of the truth if we believe in Him and love others as He loves us. 1Jn3:19-24

Peace

As I keep stating, Israel was the only nation God gave the old covenant to. Gentiles were never under the commands found in the old covenant. Yes, if they choose, they could become circumcised and join their ranks. All of you who believe WE are under the command to observe the Sabbath have yet to find a scripture where God asks Gentiles to become Sabbath observers.

 

[Bob S]

The Ten Commandments are not transitory; for God is Holy, and he does not change. Rather, the obeying of the written Law was transitory. Christians fulfill the Law not by trying to obey the written code, but by faith, manifested by walking in the Spirit of Christ.

Do you deny that Paul wrote that indeed the Ten Commandments WERE transitory? What does being Holy have to do with changing laws? God said He was going to destroy all the Israelites, but when Moses explained some things, God certainly did change His mind. So to Tell us He never does is telling us an untruth.

Romans 8:3-4 (WEB) 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Galatians 5:13-25 (NIV) Paul addressing born-again believers who have the Spirit 13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

That is how we walk in the Spirit, which fulfills the ordinance of the Law that could not be fulfilled by obeying the written code, because the written code causes rebellion from our sinful nature.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were through the law worked in our members to bring out fruit to death. 6 But now we have been discharged from the law, having died to that in which we were held; so that we serve in newness of the spirit, and not in oldness of the letter. . . .18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don’t find it doing that which is good. 19 For the good which I desire, I don’t do; but the evil which I don’t desire, that I practice.



We fulfill the Sabbath obligation by living as a Holy Priesthood to God. Spiritually, we are always living in the grace of God's Rest seven days a week as we crucify ourselves to God, giving spiritual worship to him. Every day is a seventh day for the Christian's soul.

The Sabbath is not an obligation to anyone. The New Covenant does not have a Sabbath obligation. We become a Ho;y priesthood be believing in Jesus, follow His will to love others as He loves us. JN15:10-14

Romans 12:1-2 (WEB) Therefore I urge you, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service. 2 Don’t be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what is the good, well-pleasing, and perfect will of God.

Paul never indicated that our spiritual service included observing days.

 

[timothyu]

they did not! the sabbath command was given after their escape from Egypt in the desert.

Yes but does not Isaiah say it will be eternal?
Isaiah 66: 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

 

[setst777]

Do you deny that Paul wrote that indeed the Ten Commandments WERE transitory?

Yes, I deny that Paul ever wrote or taught that the Ten Commandments were ever transitory. If the Ten Commandments were ever transitory, then so is God's morality transitory. The Ten Commandments are the Eternal Moral Law of God.

Romans 7:14 (WEB) 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin.

Galatians 5:14 (WEB) For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [Leviticus 19:18]

Romans 13:9 (WEB) For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” [Exodus 20:13-15,17; Deuteronomy 5:17-19,21] and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [Leviticus 19:18]

1 Corinthians 13:4-7 (WEB) 4 Love is patient and is kind. Love doesn’t envy. Love doesn’t brag, is not proud, 5 doesn’t behave itself inappropriately, doesn’t seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil; 6 doesn’t rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things.

First Commandment: You shall have no other gods before Me.
I Thessalonians 1:9 “you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God”

Second Commandment: You shall make no idols
I Corinthians 6:9-10 “Neither… idolators…will inherit the kingdom of God”
Ephesians 5:5 “For this you know that no…idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God”
1 Thessalonians 1:9 “you turned to God from idols”

Third Commandment: You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
1 Timothy 1:19 "holding faith and a good conscience, which some having thrust away made a shipwreck concerning the faith, 20 of whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I delivered to Satan, that they might be taught not to blaspheme."
2 Timothy 3:1 "But know this: that in the last days, grievous times will come. 2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy"

Fourth Commandment: Keep the Sabbath Day Holy
Matthew 11:28-29 (WEB) 28 “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart; and you will find rest for your souls.
1 Peter 1:14-16 Admonishing Christians 14 as children of obedience, not conforming yourselves according to your former lusts as in your ignorance, 15 but just as he who called you is holy, you yourselves also be holy in all your behavior; 16 For it is written, “You shall be holy; for I am holy.” [Leviticus 11:44-45]

Fifth Commandment: Honor your father and your mother.
Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with a promise: 3 “that it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth.” [Deuteronomy 5:16]

Sixth Commandment: Thou shalt not Murder.
Galatians 5:19 Now the deeds of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom.

Seventh Commandment: You shall not commit Adultery.
I Corinthians 6:9-10 “Neither… adulterers, nor homosexuals…will inherit the kingdom of God”

Eight Commandment: Thou shalt not Steal.
1 Corinthians 6:9 Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortionists, will inherit God’s Kingdom.
Ephesians 4:28 Let him who stole steal no more; but rather let him labor, producing with his hands something that is good, that he may have something to give to him who has need."

Ninth Commandment: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
2 Timothy 3:13 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…slanderers
1 Corinthians 5:11 But as it is, I wrote to you not to associate with anyone who is called a brother who is a sexual sinner, or covetous, or an idolater, or a slanderer, or a drunkard, or an extortionist. Don’t even eat with such a person.

Tenth Commandment: You shall not Covent.
1 Corinthians 5:11 But as it is, I wrote to you not to associate with anyone who is called a brother who is a sexual sinner, or covetous, or an idolater, or a slanderer, or a drunkard, or an extortionist. Don’t even eat with such a person.
Ephesians 5:5 For this you know that no fornicator…nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God

The Ten Commandments are fulfilled in the true Christian who follows Christ into a sanctified life of righteousness in love.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-8 (Paul admonishing Christians) 3 For this is the will of God: your sanctification, that you abstain from sexual immorality, 4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in sanctification and honor, 5 not in the passion of lust, even as the Gentiles who don’t know God, 6 that no one should take advantage of and wrong a brother or sister in this matter. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we keep warning you [Christians]. 7 For God did not call us [Christians, including Paul] to be impure, but to live a sanctified life. 8 Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction rejects God, not man. This is the very God who gives to you his Holy Spirit.

Therefore, we fulfill the Law spiritually by living out a life of Love as Lord Jesus taught us and showed to us by example.

Romans 8:3-4 (WEB) 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

What does being Holy have to do with changing laws? God said He was going to destroy all the Israelites, but when Moses explained some things, God certainly did change His mind. So to Tell us He never does is telling us an untruth.

God can change His mind in mercy, but that does not ever change God's moral standard - the Law.

In addition, God does not mercifully forgive sins so we can continue to live in sin; rather, God forgives the sins of those who repent toward God, renouncing sinful ways, and then put their faith in Lord Jesus, following him. Only to these will God forgive when the sin in weakness.

1 John 1:5-7 (WEB) 5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we [Christians] say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don’t tell the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.

Even though God changed his mind regarding the timing of the punishment of Israel in his mercy, nevertheless did not allow any of the Jews who tested Him to enter the Promised Land. Only righteous Joshua and Caleb were allowed to enter from the original Jews whom Moses led out of Egypt. By God's judgment, all the rest of Jews died in the wilderness, but only after years turmoil and suffering and wandering in the wilderness.

The Sabbath is not an obligation to anyone. The New Covenant does not have a Sabbath obligation. We become a Ho;y priesthood be believing in Jesus, follow His will to love others as He loves us. JN15:10-14

Paul never indicated that our spiritual service included observing days.

How does what you just stated contradict anything about the Sabbath that I stated, with Scripture?

Following Lord Jesus into a sanctified life of righteousness onto love is the living out of the Sabboth spiritually every day of the week. Those who do so, have rest in their souls.

Matthew 11:28-29 (WEB) 28 “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart; and you will find rest for your souls.

As the believer continues in the faith, walking by the light (righteousness and love), he is forgiven of any sins he commits in weakness; and so, the believer remains pure and sanctified onto God, and his soul finds rest.

1 John 1:5-7 (WEB) 5 This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we [Christians] say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don’t tell the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Yes but does not Isaiah say it will be eternal?
Isaiah 66: 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

New moon and Sabbath in that context seems that the Sabbaths are the ones attached to the festivals of Israel.

 

[timothyu]

New moon and Sabbath in that context seems that the Sabbaths are the ones attached to the festivals of Israel.

There is that. But of what purpose would that be in the Kingdom, this world forgotten.

 

[Bob S]

Yes, I deny that Paul ever wrote or taught that the Ten Commandments were ever transitory. If the Ten Commandments were ever transitory, then so is God's morality transitory. The Ten Commandments are the Eternal Moral Law of God.

I am so sorry that you are unable to comprehend those verses in 2Cor3 telling Isrrael that they are no longer under the TC. Those verses explain so well that we all are under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Who were the TC's given to sets? So, [;ease takr the time to explain how they have become the guidance of all mankind. Where and when did that happen. Do you physically observe the old covenant Sabbath that was given only to the Israelites?