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1 Timothy 3:15 NIV if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday
The apostles were commissioned to spread the gospel to continue what Jesus taught, not change God's times and laws and countermand Jesus Mat 5:18The apostles say it, the Church keeps it.
Nothing about a change in God's Sabbath. Why are you trying to make a biblical argument when your church says there isn't one?1 Timothy 3:15 NIV if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.
what more need be said.
Who countermanded the sacrifices, the cleansings, the purifications, etc. of God's laws?The apostles were commissioned to spread the gospel to continue what Jesus taught, not change God's times and laws and countermand Jesus Mat 5:18
The ordinances in the law of Moses that had to do with animal sacrifices etc were all fulfilled in Christ Eph 2:15 Heb 9:10 Col 2:14-17KJV Heb 10:1-22Who countermanded the sacrifices, the cleansings, the purifications, etc. of God's laws?
Not countermanded. They remain in force, for all for whom they were written: those whose father is the man named first Jacob, then later Israel. They are all explicitly written this way. They do not apply to anyone else. For instance, those whom the Lord commands to call no one on earth "father".Who countermanded the sacrifices, the cleansings, the purifications, etc. of God's laws?
And the Decalogue is fulfilled in love.The ordinances in the law of Moses that had to do with animal sacrifices etc were all fulfilled in Christ Eph 2:15 Heb 9:10 Col 2:14-17KJV Heb 10:1-22
God's Ten Commandments, the way God said stands forever Mat 5:18-30, Mat 19:17-19 Mat 15:3-14 John 14:15 Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14-15
Try an official Catholic Church document, like the Catechism of the Catholic Church.Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50
Yes, when we keep them 1 John 5:3, the summary does not delete the details Rom 13:9 James 2:10-12And the Decalogue is fulfilled in love.
He who loves has fulfilled the Decalogue (Ro 13:8, 10).
The Decalogue is fulfilled by the two great commandments (Mt 22:37-40).
Loving necessarily keeps them, or it is not love.Yes, when we keep them 1 John 5:3, the summary does not delete the details Rom 13:9 James 2:10-12
This could be a very interesting post and I would love to discuss it with you further if you want to start a new thread. But I think we shouldn't take this message thread off in a different direction than OP wanted."Verbal inspiration"? Who ever said anything about "verbal inspiration"? Scripture says that it was "inspired" which simply means "breathed". Does that mean that God spoke the words to the Apostles (and the OT writers) for them to write? Or did He put the thoughts directly into their minds? Or did they go into a trance in which they were taken over by the Holy Spirit and He did the writing Himself? It doesn't matter at all. What matters is that He put the Words into their minds in some way, and they wrote them down. They are God's words not the human writers, and so they are perfect, Holy, and can be trusted as if God were speaking them directly to you.
Love didn't go undefined, so its not our version of loving our neighbor or loving God, its God's version.Loving necessarily keeps them, or it is not love.
Love is sufficient.
It goes without saying: there is only one true version of anything, and that is God's version.Love didn't go undefined, so its not our version of loving our neighbor or loving God, its God's version.
So there should be no debateIt goes without saying: there is only one true version of anything, and that is God's version.
You forgot to include Jesus and the Father who said it first. Would you like to start a new thread?That's what most everyone who subscribes to doctrine established by someone in the 19th century says. Whether that be EW Bullinger's doctrine, Or Ellen White's doctrine, or Nelson's, or Scofield's etc.
Yet the Church keeps the first day and has since the beginning. It is the Jews who keep the seventh day. For them keeping the seventh day is part of the ancient Israelite religion from which modern Judaism arose after the destruction of Jerusalem and the deportation of the Jews from Judea in 135 AD.
I mean from the time that The Acts of the Apostles writes about. That would be not long after the death and resurrection of the Lord.There is historical evidence for Sunday worship as of about 150 yrs after Christ's death, in Justin Martyr's writings. When you say, "since the beginning," do you mean during the time of Christ's life? Immediately after His death? During the time of Paul? After the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70? Or some other time in the 1st century?
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