21st February 2003 at 09:33 PM Jase said this in Post #417
Cougan, i haven't been baptised but Jesus is my Saviour.
Not that i have anything against Baptism but i'm a Messianic Jew and the only Messianic synagogue i know of in my area doesn't perform Baptisms afaik. Plus my entire family wouldn't let me go so i would get no support in doing it. Does this mean i'm going to hell since i haven't and probably won't be Baptised in the near future?
And what about during the Tribulation? A multitude of people will be saved according to Revelation. Do you think people cowering in caves trying not to be executed by the AC or killed by the horseman, earthquakes, asteroids etc are really gonna rush out to dunk themselves in water? What if someone died on the way to church to get Baptised - would they be lost?
Im not for sure what a Messianic Jew is all I know is that those that are in the one body Eph 4:4-5 are called christians. Acts 11:26, 26:28 and 1peter 4:6. Following the word of God at times can cause division in a family. Who cares what your family thinks or anyone else for that matter. If you see that the word of God teaches that you must be water baptized out of obedince to be put into Christ and come in contact with his blood do it please God rather than man. Gal 1:10. act 4:19. You can't tell me that there is not any way that you can be water baptized. If you can't find anyone to assist you in your baptism do it yourself. Go to pond or fill up your bathtub nice a full and put your faith in the operation of God and know that when you go under the water that your sins are being washed away and that you are being united with Chirst and when you come up out of the water Rejoice because you have been united with christ in baptism and God has now added you to the one church which is Chirst body. You baptism has nothing to do with the person aiding you in and out of the water. Your baptism is between you and God and you faith in him. You just need to understand what it is you are doing and what is your putting your faith into when you are water baptized so that it will be done correctly. If you can find someone to help you in and out of the water than great if you cant find anyone the do it yourself. Again the person that lowers you into the water is only assisting. The water baptism must be done with the correct authorty and that authority is Jesus Christ. So yes if you do not get water baptized you will never enter into Christ where all the spiritual blessing are you will not have your sins washed away nor will you be added to the church as those in acts 2.
Now in regards to your rapture view this view just does not hold any water in the word of God. When Jesus returns he will only come back once this is his 2nd and final comming. When he comes back both the just and the unjust will be raised. This will be the judment day. Jesus will not reign on the earth for 1000 years and all that hype. We are told that we will meet him in air and be with him forever. He will burn up the earth and heaven at this second coming. NO where in the word does it even hint at him comming back a 3rd time or this 7 years of tribulation and so on. May I suggest you read one of my papers on the rapture and see if you still will belive in this man created story.
http://www.ardmoreweb.com/christ/rapture.html
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