What About All the Fish?

[dad]

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Really. Where's the ad hoc that we're supposedly using?

Actually, I was going on a definition someone gave here some time ago of the word. They brought out that it was not so much making it up as you go along, as making things fit a predtermined set of ideas. (Although, when I look it up, actually, I see it means more what I first thought it did, before someone corrected my idea of the word. )
Old agers believe that the past was PO as the present, which cannot be supported. They simply take the facts, like the fish thing here, and assume a same past as the present. Making it fit their presumptions of the past the same as the present. This was kind of what I meant here.

 

[Dragar]

I think this really answers the question:

But, we can only view the fish of today. These fish may likely be far and again inferior to their ancestors. This is most likely true of the human species. The Bible clearly shows that man once had the capacity to live hundreds of years (if not over a thousand), and this was in his fallen state. Prior to the Flood, humans and animals were far superior in strength and durability. As time has progressed man is more and more dependent on technology to keep himself alive. The very universe is slowly wearing out. the very same could be said of humans and aminals. They have mutated to become more and more inferior. At the same time GOD has provied species with the ability to compensate and move to or adjust the environment in order to survive....

They were magic fish!

 

[Nathan Poe]

The bible is not nowhere. If you have some scientific basis for your claim, let's have it here and now. If not, cut the old age ad hoc stuff!

Where is hyper evolution in the Bible?

Nowhere. You made it up.

 

[dad]

Where is hyper evolution in the Bible?

Nowhere. You made it up.

No, we see changes and have the timeframe they occurred. We also see things like trees growing in days. There is no doubt that it was a different past in the bible. Absolutely.
We see a kind of creature changed quickly as well right in the garden, the serpent, drastically changed.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

No, we see changes and have the timeframe they occurred. We also see things like trees growing in days. There is no doubt that it was a different past in the bible. Absolutely.
We see a kind of creature changed quickly as well right in the garden, the serpent, drastically changed.

There is no doubt that these things are myths. Things were the same in the past. Even then there were people like you who couldn't distinguish myth from reality.

 

[dad]

...Things were the same in the past.

Saying that it was the same is no doubt a myth. Evidence of this is your lack of evidence for stating your little myth. To make a claim such as this requires evidence to be more than fantasy. Since you can't come up with any, stick to the present, and quit telling tales.

Even then there were people like you who couldn't distinguish myth from reality.

Funny how recorded history doesn't go back that far, even with your dating boners. Ever wonder why?

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Saying that it was the same is no doubt a myth. Evidence of this is your lack of evidence for stating your little myth. To make a claim such as this requires evidence to be more than fantasy. Since you can't come up with any, stick to the present, and quit telling tales.



Funny how recorded history doesn't go back that far, even with your dating boners. Ever wonder why?

The reason is that even you are not goofy enough to put your split fantasy during clearly recorded history. However, there are written records that clearly predate it.

Your posts indicate that you are unable to separate fantasy from reality. This is clear to everyone but you. I thought you must be joking all along because I didn't think that anyone could really be as wacky as you seem to be but I am beginning to think you actually take the absolute nonsense you continually come up with seriously. Amazing.

 

[TheBear]

I think this really answers the question:



They were magic fish!

Miracles and the supernatural explain away a multitude of problems facing YEC's claims.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Miracles and the supernatural explain away a multitude of problems facing YEC's claims.

Miracles and the supernatural explain every problem facing YEC claims.

Of course, the result is that when you look at YEC, you're left with nothing BUT miracles and the supernatural.

 

[dad]

The reason is that even you are not goofy enough to put your split fantasy during clearly recorded history. However, there are written records that clearly predate it.

No, there are not. Every time someone makes that claim, soon as we start to hold it up in the light to have a look, it crumbles into dust. The dating is assumptive to the nth degree. I haven't heard of any pre flood documentaion, and the stuff they date to the flood time is way off.

.....I am beginning to think you actually take the absolute nonsense you continually come up with seriously. Amazing.

Not as amazing as taking the absolute nonsense you embrace seriously. Your posts indicate that you are unable to separate fantasy from reality. Astounding. You can't just hold beliefs of the past and future, not backed by science or evidence, and try to call it reality! You just set yourself up for a horrible fall, like Humpty Dumpty. Get off the high wall, and admit what you know, and don't know.

 

[dad]

Miracles and the supernatural explain away a multitude of problems facing YEC's claims.

It is only the lack of the supernatural and spiritual in people's minds, that invent the problems to begin with!

 

[TheBear]

Good pic, Nathan!

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

It is only the lack of the supernatural and spiritual in people's minds, that invent the problems to begin with!

In other words if you live in a fantasy world you can irrationalize away any problems that intrude on your fantasies.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

No, there are not. Every time someone makes that claim, soon as we start to hold it up in the light to have a look, it crumbles into dust. The dating is assumptive to the nth degree. I haven't heard of any pre flood documentaion, and the stuff they date to the flood time is way off.

You only think it is way off because you need it to be way off for your fantasy split and of course there is extensive archeological evidence of civilizations around the world long before the invention of writing.

Not as amazing as taking the absolute nonsense you embrace seriously. Your posts indicate that you are unable to separate fantasy from reality. Astounding.

This from mister no gravity before the flood! You're projecting again dad-hoc.

You can't just hold beliefs of the past and future, not backed by science or evidence, and try to call it reality!

This from mister transparent gold!

You just set yourself up for a horrible fall, like Humpty Dumpty. Get off the high wall, and admit what you know, and don't know.

One thing I don't know is how anyone could be as myth bound as you are in the modern world.

 

[dad]

In other words if you live in a fantasy world you can irrationalize away any problems that intrude on your fantasies.

No, I can intrude on the fantasies of the PO minded who commit the sin of omission. Exposing their lack of science and evidence and proof, and leaving them in the lurch.

 

[TheBear]

Ok, everyone. Back on topic.

The OP topic regards survivability of all fish species in such a massive flood - five miles above sea level, across the globe.

What was salinity supposed to be, and, how did bottom-dwelling fish survive such a massive increase in crushing pressure?

There are other questions on fish survivability, I'll get to them a little later. For now, let's take a look at these two points - Salinity Levels and Depth Pressures.

 

[dad]

You only think it is way off because you need it to be way off for your fantasy split and of course there is extensive archeological evidence of civilizations around the world long before the invention of writing.

Oh, the civilization we know were here, but it is the actual dating of when that you bomb on.

This from mister no gravity before the flood!

This from mister sun will burn out, there is no heaven, but it must have gravity!

You're projecting again dad-hoc. This from mister transparent gold!

Mr transparent gold is God. I am a mere messenger of glad tidings.

Re 21:21 - And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

One thing I don't know is how anyone could be as myth bound as you are in the modern world.

I am free as a bird, you are box bound something fierce.

 

[dad]

Ok, everyone. Back on topic.

The OP topic regards survivability of all fish species in such a massive flood - 5 miles above sea level, across the globe.

What was salinity supposed to be, and, how did bottom-dwelling fish survive such a massive increase in crushing pressure?

There are other questions on fish survivability, I'll get to them a little later. For now, let's take a look at these two points - Salinity Levels and Depth Pressures.

OK, I'll leave it for others. I already addressed it -no gravity (pressures) before flood, and salt being laid down pre flood, as well as in flood from up, and/or down, making salinity levels good.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Oh, the civilization we know were here, but it is the actual dating of when that you bomb on.


This from mister sun will burn out, there is no heaven, but it must have gravity!

The scientific evidence says that the sun will burn out but not for billions of years and when did I ever say that heaven must have gravity. You are the one making up things about heaven not me.

 

[Tomk80]

Why is anyone still trying to respond to dad in a serious way? Come on, pull his strings and see him jump, it's much more fun.

To dad: the above was not meant seriously. I just had to do a calibration test on my newly calibrated irony-meter, that I installed parallel to my dad-o-meter. Posts by dad are now automatically routed through the dad-o-meter, while more regular levels of irony are measured by the irony-meter. No more exploding irony-meters, and I'm safe again.