Wendy Wright and Richard Dawkins

[AV1611VET]

It used to be a Christian nation, I believe,

It still is, and will be as long as Jesus has His name here.

1 Kings 9:3 And the LORD said unto him, I have heard thy prayer and thy supplication, that thou hast made before me: I have hallowed this house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever; and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

As long as we do our part in the Abrahamic Covenant, God will bless; but God help us if we ever cease to support Israel!

QV please:

Here are some facts -- you decide:

• 30 October 1991: The Halloween Monster, a.k.a. The Perfect Storm, strikes the U.S. amid the "land-for-peace" Madrid peace talks; President Bush's ocean-side home destroyed.
• 23 August 1992: President Bush moves Madrid talks to U.S. soil; that very day, Hurricane Andrew devastates southern Florida.
• 16 January 1994: President Clinton meets with Syrian President Hafez Assad to discuss more "land for peace" arrangements; less than 24 hours later, a 6.9 earthquake pulverized southern California.
• 1 September 1993: President Clinton announces a meeting with Arafat for the Oslo peace accords, to be held on 13 September; after a week of meandering in the Atlantic Ocean, Hurricane Emily hits North Carolina on that very day.
• 21 January 1998: while waiting to meet with Arafat at the White House, President Clinton's sex scandal breaks out.
• 27 September 1998: Arafat is meeting with the president in Washington; Hurricane Georges hits Alabama and stalls. The hurricane stalls until Arafat leaves and then it dissipates. Parts of Alabama declared a disaster area.
• 17 October 1998: Arafat comes to the Wye Plantation meeting; incredible rains fall on Texas, which cause record flooding. Parts of Texas declared a disaster area.
• 3 September 1999: Secretary of State Albright meets with Arafat in Israel; Hurricane Dennis comes ashore on this very day after weeks of changing course in the Atlantic Ocean.
• 12-26 July 2000: Arafat at the Camp David meetings. Powerful droughts throughout the country. Forest fires explode in West into uncontrollable fires. By the end of August, 7 million acres are burnt.
• 9 November 2000, two days after the presidential election: Arafat meets with President Clinton at the White House to try and salvage the peace process; worst election crisis in over 100 years occurs.

 

[AV1611VET]

Visit Newport Rhode Island and see the Touro Synagogue. The first jewish synagogue in the US which dates back BEFORE we were a nation. Then tell the Jews who have been witth us from the start how much it was a christian nation.

We like to call it the Abrahamic Covenant.

God founded this nation for two reasons:

1. To provide a haven for the Jews during the awful pogroms going on in Europe.
2. To help reestablish Israel as a nation and give them support afterwards.

 

[TLK Valentine]

We like to call it the Abrahamic Covenant.

God founded this nation for two reasons:

1. To provide a haven for the Jews during the awful pogroms going on in Europe.
2. To help reestablish Israel as a nation and give them support afterwards.

Weren't you paying attention? No, of course you weren't...

The Synagogue was established before the nation was -- guess the Jews got tired of waiting for God...

 

[AV1611VET]

The Synagogue was established before the nation was -- guess the Jews got tired of waiting for God...

What's that have to do with anything?

The Synagogue was in operation in 1763.

What were the Jews supposed to do? stand around waiting?

Luke 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

 

[TLK Valentine]

What's that have to do with anything?

Kind of shoots down your pseudotheology, doesn't it?

The Synagogue was in operation in 1763.

And America was a nation in 1783-- do the math.

What were the Jews supposed to do? stand around waiting?

Waiting for what? God already gave them a Promised Land -- whose fault is it that they couldn't hold on to it?

Come to think of it, I don't recall God offering any refunds, do you?

Luke 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

Colorful -- care to try for relevant?

 

[bhsmte]

Fatigue has nothing to do with courage and integrity.

Traipsing around with a clipboard playing BMOC with Christians should tire anyone out.

As Luke put it:

Acts 26:14b ... it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

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That makes absolutely no sense.

Courage is talking about issues that aren't popular, but you do it because you have a passion to speak the truth. Integrity is about being honest and consistent in your actions (and Dawkins has been all of that).

How does fatigue play into this and who knows whether he is tired of speaking an unpopular truth?

I'll give him high marks for his patience with Wendy Wright, because she is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. In fact, he acted like a saint!

 

[Bungle_Bear]

God founded this nation for two reasons:

To provide a haven for the Jews during the awful pogroms going on in Europe.

What anti-semitic pogroms do you think were going on in 18th century Europe?

To help reestablish Israel as a nation and give them support afterwards.

You can't reestablish something that had not been established at an earlier time. Israel, as a nation, did not exist before 1947.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

What anti-semitic pogroms do you think were going on in 18th century Europe?

You can't reestablish something that had not been established at an earlier time. Israel, as a nation, did not exist before 1947.

AV1611VET and world history are strangers.

 

[AV1611VET]

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That makes absolutely no sense.

Courage is talking about issues that aren't popular, but you do it because you have a passion to speak the truth. Integrity is about being honest and consistent in your actions (and Dawkins has been all of that).

How does fatigue play into this and who knows whether he is tired of speaking an unpopular truth?

I'll give him high marks for his patience with Wendy Wright, because she is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. In fact, he acted like a saint!

I take it, you disagree with this:

Obviously he faces that every single place he goes these days. I think, like anyone, having to contend with this over and over again must get tiring.

I don't [disagree].

Traipsing around with a clipboard playing BMOC with Christians should tire anyone out.

As Luke put it:

Acts 26:14b ... it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

 

[AV1611VET]

What anti-semitic pogroms do you think were going on in 18th century Europe?

I give up ... what?

You can't reestablish something that had not been established at an earlier time. Israel, as a nation, did not exist before 1947.

Wow!

 

[AV1611VET]

Israel, as a nation, did not exist before 1947.

Split Rock, am I reading this wrong?

 

[StormanNorman]

Split Rock, am I reading this wrong?

I'm not Split Rock, but I guess it depends on how you are reading it.

 

[TLK Valentine]

What anti-semitic pogroms do you think were going on in 18th century Europe?

Whatever they were, they could only have been instituted by Christians -- So according to AV's pseudotheology, God created a Christian nation in order to save the Jews from Christians.

 

[Split Rock]

Split Rock, am I reading this wrong?

Hmmm.. according to Wikipidia, the first Kingdom of Israel was established around the 11th century BCE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

So.... I'm not sure if there is a correct way of reading this statement.. LOL.

 

[AV1611VET]

Hmmm.. according to Wikipidia, the first Kingdom of Israel was established around the 11th century BCE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

So.... I'm not sure if there is a correct way of reading this statement.. LOL.

Okay, thank you.

 

[dazed]

After watching the whole debate, I googled "Wendy Wright nutjob" and found this thread. God works in a mysterious way.

At 44 minutes, why should we teach the Jewish-Babylon creation myth? Verbally, we only want to teach intelligent design, I'm not aware any move to teach the Biblical creation. Physically, her body and head said NO!