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Greek was the language of commerce throughout the Mediterranean area.Yeah, I see what you mean. Perhaps Paul knew Greek. Even Luke. But Peter, John, and Mark. I wonder.
Thanks!
BTW, you were a beautiful baby!
You say that God does not give up on us just (because ) our mortal body dies. So one can be saved postmortem? OK, so being "in Him" has nothing to do with believing while still alive and receiving His Holy Spirit for regeneration?
You asked: why is it impossible for God to create a person with instinctively Godly love?
let me explain what I think from my studies , I am taking several trains of thought and wrapping them together. I take the work of Micheal Heiser and his book Unseen Realm and combining it with the idea of Apokatastasis ( Acts 3:21) and combine them to get what I think is a better understanding of what the Father has done , is doing, and will do. If you understand that God works in ages then we see from scripture that from Adam till Moses for a person to walk and serve God you did not have to place your faith in Jesus you only followed what God has said ( that part was not preserved for us to know) but God had a way of sorting out those who were following Him and those who were not. Those who followed Him were given the promise of a heavenly home away from the curse of this world. Then Moses came with the Law and now to follow God you followed the Law, those who did were promised a " promise land and a new city that God would make for them. Then came Jesus and now according to Him those who follow him are filled with his Holy Spirit , He no longer calls us slaves but brothers , and we will reign and rule with him on his throne. That is why the bar that Jesus set is higher , example before you were told don't kill but now I say that if you have hate in your heart toward someone you are guilty of murder, same with adultery ect. The bar has been raised because its not a heaven or hell choice its a are you going to be part of Jesus family and reign and rule with him, become elohim , or are you going to be the ones who are the subjects of that rule and reign. I believe Hebrews when it says that the blood of bulls and goats never took sin away, and that when Jesus said no one comes to the Father but through me that was a truth for all the ages , so all those from Adam till Jesus that followed God had to trust in Jesus in order to get to the promise that they were given , which if true ( and it has to be otherwise there are multiple ways to the Father) means that post mortal death acceptance of Jesus has been done before and why would not God stay with that pattern. So all who are to be residents of heaven must put their trust in Jesus , but for us who do it in the mortal body we get the added bonus of becoming part of his family, again that is why the bar was raised.
Yes and we know that not all are in Him and Jesus even said at the Judgement that many will say to Him, Lord Lord to which Jesus responds by telling them He never knew them and depart from Me you workers of iniquity. So Jesus taught not everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven.
how is that any different from what I said? Only those who are in Him while in the mortal body are part of Jesus family the rest are the subjects of that kingdom .
Adam died the moment that he disobeyed God. What died? His spirit. His body was alive, obviously. His soul (mind, emotion and will) likewise. This is the first death. Everyone is born dead in trespass and sin.
You are correct that there is not a hint that anyone can accept Jesus postmortem its a shout for all the world to see. John 14:6 " I am the way and truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me" if this is true then all those from Adam to Jesus had to accept Jesus postmortem in order to go to heaven. Otherwise you have to say that there are multiple paths to the Father making Jesus out to be not telling the truth. As for there being no point to to preaching the gospel , you do not understand what UR teaches . most UR of those who teach UR say unless you accept Jesus you are going to the Lake Of Fire and that is going to be awful ,we dont even know how long it will be maybe millions of years but its not eternal. If you have the love of Jesus in you, you do not want to see anyone go there and our Godly love compels to as scripture says to try to snatch those away from the fire. God doesn't want anyone to go there but if they so choose He will still rescue them.
Jesus said, "no one comes [present tense] to the Father except through me" Jesus did not say "no one in the O.T. came [past tense] to the Father except through me." And as you stated, "there is not a hint that anyone can accept Jesus postmortem." Weren't there two people in the O.T. who went to God? Where is scripture which says, "if they so choose [the fire] He [God] will still rescue them."
It has to be present tense , He was there speaking to the people then so using the present tense is the only thing that would make since. of course it could not be past tense He had not gone to the cross yet. It would be kind of hard for the O.T. people to accept some thing that had not yet taken place. like I said if you don't believe that there is only one way to the Father and that's through Jesus then there are multiple paths to the Father and if that is true why did Jesus die if there was already a way to the Father?
Right. Both of us. - LOL
Well... I think I got plenty of meat well before joining the UR camp.
Since when do you get to decide that?
That was uncalled for. Boo!
John 3
There are three biblical views of the final judgment.
