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I just bought a very nice house (3-bedroom split level) for $40,000. I bought it as an investment property. We close on the house in mid-May.

It's filthy, full of crap from the previous owner, needs every room cleaned, primed & painted, and some exterior work done. But these are all things that ANYBODY who has an ounce of ambition could do!

I know for a fact that, if I choose to do so, I can clean & fix this house and, when the market turns around, sell it for $120,000.



So you're question, "Where does one find a home for $65,000?" is irrelevant. It can be done. People are doing it all the time. Where, in YOUR city, can you find a home for $65,000? I have no idea, because I have no idea where you live. But I'll guarantee you I could find dozens of homes for that price.
Yes one can find a $65,000 house....then have to put another $20,000 to $30,000 just to make it livable. Your point is taken.
 
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WRONG

I said I paid $40,000 for the house. And if somebody spends $20,000 to $30,000 to clean up & paint a house, that person is STUPID.

I say if somebody wants to buy a $40,000 house for $120,000 is stupid. They could buy the $40,000 house themselves and clean and paint it.

I would feel guilty taking advantage of people in this way. I guess some love the dollar more than the people.
 
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You are also WRONG in that you didn't get the "point taken". You didn't pick up on the FACT that everybody cries about something not being able to be done, somebody else comes along and does the EXACT thing that supposedly can't be done.
What?
 
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I'm not saying this applies to you personally. But let's face it, lots of people are crying and moaning about not "living" because they don't have a $35,000 SUV sitting in the garage of a $350,000 house out in the suburbs. And those are people who will NEVER be "living" because even if they had the aforementioned things, it would be enough. They'd want a $50,000 Duramax Diesel Truck, alongside their new $40,000 SUV in the triple-care garage (because we need room to park our boat) of their $650,000 home.

I don't know a single person like that, and I have a sneaking suspiscion your just trying to rationalise your beliefs.


For those who keep crying, "It can't be done!!!!" I'll continue to ask why there are people all over the country doing the EXACT things you're saying CANNOT be done!

We're not saying it cannot be done, we're saying that the state has a role in facilitating the ease of doing.
 
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I have an employee who I pay $10 an hour. He owns no car, has no savings, no health insurance, lives with a roommate in an apartment complex that the police frequent for reports of violence. He lives paycheck to paycheck. If he were to become injured and could not work, he would become homeless or a freeloader.

Adults earning $10 an hour can live, as long as they stay healthy.
 
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First of all, why do you only pay him $10 per hour? Sounds to me like you're an extremely greedy, selfish employer - and that you should be ashamed of yourself! In fact, I think the government should FORCE you to pay him more, whether you can afford to or not!

Second, does he work for you full-time? If he does, why are you not paying benefits? Even if he works for you part-time, why are you not paying his benefits? Unless, of course, you're a greedy selfish employer. I think thee government should FORCE you to pay him benefits, whether you can afford to or not!

Third, if he is NOT working full-time, why is he not? Or is he working for you as a 2nd, extra job?

Fourth, if he is indeed making over $20,000 per year, he must be a poor manager of money - especially if he doesn't have a car.


I think your post reflects VERY poorly on you!



All I have to say to you is you attack me without knowing me, my circumstances, what I do, what my employee does and other variables.

All I must do is point out this little post of yours....

It might also be worth pointing out that some people's work isn't worth anywhere near $10.00 per hour.

This why I do not respect you. Not only do you insult me but you insult nearly everybody you disagree with.
 
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Folks really it is not impossible to have a discussion without flaming and baiting.

I guarantee it's a lot easier than living on $10/hr ;)



Please let's be civil to each other, we can disagree without disparaging.
 
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YOU are the one claiming $10 is not a living wage, but then turn around and admit that you're paying an employee $10 per hour.

Personally, I'd be ashamed of myself.
It might also be worth pointing out that some people's work isn't worth anywhere near $10.00 per hour.
Apparently you don't believe what you write.
 
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