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Did Jesus have any Christian with guns there stopping the killer? No! the world took care of there own.
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Did Jesus have any Christian with guns there stopping the killer? No! the world took care of there own.Are you kidding me?! How cna honestly spout such pure rubbish in light of the shootings yesterday?! You twisting of Scripture and cowardly doctrine that you have built is saddening.
What do you do with Luke 22:36?
Did Jesus have any Christian with guns there stopping the killer? No! the world took care of there own.
Someone who is living the Word of God would never be in a position to shoot a mad man on a killing spree. A person living the word of God would normally not carry a weapon. I know they might be hunting animals, but Jesus would not, unless he gave the person much, much grace, place one of his in a position like that. It is the worlds job to take care of situations like what you described. Remember a Christian is not of the world. God would never place one of his in a situation that would be beyond their ability to resist. Christians are to obey God no matter what. Jesus will always give them the grace to live his Word.
I was thinking about you today Giver.Jesus personally told me that we were not to hurt anyone for any reason.
The written Word of God tells us the same thing.
(Matthew 5:44) But I say this to you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you;
(Matthew 5:39) You have learnt how it was said: Eye for eye and tooth for tooth. But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.
When God tells us something it is very dangerous to ignore what he says. Right?
You CAN get shot in my church.In Colorado, Sunday.. New Life church.. the church being fired upon .. the killer shot dead.
Many more would have died if the woman guard in the congregation had not acted quickly. She is a hero.
In Christ, GeneZ
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(Matthew 5:44) But I say this to you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you;
1 Timothy 5:8 (New International Version)
"If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."
If that's enough to receive such condemnation from God? How much more so? If one refuses to protect?!
Enuf said...
(Matthew 7:21) It is not those who say to me, Lord, Lord, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name? Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!Right. When I posted that last post, I didn't even know about the guard who killed the gunman during the shootings at the church in Colorado Springs. This woman who professes faith in Christ and gives all the credit and glory to God for her act of savings untold numbers of lives by shooting the gunman, we know, is not really a Christian at all. The fact that God used her in this way proves that she has no part with Him. Unbelievable!
Anyone can call himself or herself a Christian, but to be a Christian is to hear the Word of the Lord and live it.
Amen! That is why Jesus gave us his Holy Spirit, and also said his people would hear his voice.Problem is.... before he can live it. He has to first understand it.
Proverbs 14:12 (New International Version)
"There is a way that seems right to a man,
but in the end it leads to death."
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Two swords would have been enough. Look what God did with a young man and a rock or one man and jawbone.Man! I have answered two or three times in this thread. Just so you can understand Ill try to explain again. (Luke 22:38) Lord, they said there are two swords here now, He said to them, that is enough!
Here is what some bible scholars have said about that passage of scripture: The Apostles have taken the words of Jesus too literally and he closes the conversation abruptly. Also, The purse to buy, the sword to procure by force the necessities of life. All this is symbolic of a mission in a hostile world. These scholars wrote the Jerusalem Bible. Thats a Catholic Bible and Catholics believe much the way you do about the subject of self-defense.
Another question you should ask yourself is: would Jesus have said that two swords were enough if they were to use swords to defend all the disciples that were there?
Are you so arrogant to think that you can judge the woman who stopped (by killing the shooter) what would have been a slaughter and say she wasn't a Christian?Did Jesus have any Christian with guns there stopping the killer? No! the world took care of there own.
Problem is you ignore the passages that disagree with you so you can not possibly know them and live them.(Matthew 7:21) It is not those who say to me, Lord, Lord, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name? Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!
Anyone can call himself or herself a Christian, but to be a Christian is to hear the Word of the Lord and live it.
Well then if you think Jesus meant for the disciples to use those swords they must have split up just in two groups. In your way of thinking it would have been better for Jesus to tell them to just take along a rock.Two swords would have been enough. Look what God did with a young man and a rock or one man and jawbone.
Now you are getting into name calling, and saying things without any evidence that there is any truth in them. You have run out of even feeble arguments, so it gets down to name-calling.Are you so arrogant to think that you can judge the woman who stopped (by killing the shooter) what would have been a slaughter and say she wasn't a Christian?
BTW, in her interview she praised God, gave Him the glory, and told of her prayer before engaging the enemy.
(Matthew 7:21) It is not those who say to me, Lord, Lord, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name? Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!
You're doctrine of cowardly milktoast christians is a contradiction of Scripture. You ignore the passages that you disagree with and fail to reconcile them with applicable passages. This is how false teaching and apostasy starts.
Jesus personally told me that we were not to hurt anyone for any reason.
The written Word of God tells us the same thing.
(Matthew 5:44) “But I say this to you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you;”
(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”
When God tells us something it is very dangerous to ignore what he says. Right?
When God tells us something it is very dangerous to ignore what he says. Right?
1Ti 5:8 -But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
Safe survival is provision #1.
To stand by while your wife is raped is insanity.
Shame on you.
(Matthew 7:21) It is not those who say to me, Lord, Lord, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name? Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!
Anyone can call himself or herself a Christian, but to be a Christian is to hear the Word of the Lord and live it.
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