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What is the left leaning's narrative? A black man is murdered by police and they protest. The fact is that very few of the protests turned violent but you want to condemn the peaceful protests because a small percentage turned violent. That's your narrative.
The facts are that over 95% of the protests caused no damage or injuries.
The family said that he was left leaning. His friends said that he wasn't political. Left leaning means that he was a moderate, not a liberal.
I agreed. Most of the violence caused by the right comes from the far right not the right leaning. Just like the J6ers, the far right pushed those that wouldn't normally turn violent into a violent mob. The right leaning condemned the J6ers.
Kirk isn't right leaning but no violence has went further than speech.
The BLM protests were because one person was murdered. They were a response to many murders over many years. We haven't seen a violent protest in several years by B
I never said that they did

Overall, you live in a world of your own making, one that doesn't face reality.
 
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The fact he was in a relationship with a trans person, what he wrote on bullet casings, and what his friends and family have said and described him saying he was getting way more political and enraged if you were against his leftist views and would be openly hostile as well as the action of political assassination itself. That doesn't sound like someone just "leaning" left.
Having a relationship with a trans person is not a left-wing ideology nor any political ideology for that matter. It makes sense that he started leaning left once he started the relationship because Liberal ideology is for the protection of the civil rights of all people including trans, immigrants, and conservatives.
 
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Haven't there been murders by the “far right” too?
The terms left and right are metaphorical in politics. They are used to represent opposing subjective views on various policy matters that are of valid interest to a society. Most people are left on some issues and right on other issues. Therefore, far right carries no meaning until there is a substantive issue that the terms left and right can be applicable.

The left/right dichotomy is structured to be an analytical tool, but some people improperly use it for propaganda, division, tribalism, ad hominem attacks, accusation, insinuation, and slander. These types of propaganda can and do twist minds, stoking undue angst against others, creating paranoias when believed upon, and subsequently justifying violence in the minds of people who have become disconnected from reality through propaganda.

I therefore do not want to contribute to the dysfunction of our body politics by using far "Right" in the context of a murderous intent. I think the case can be made that the current form of the slogan MAGA which began in 2016 has come to represent an anti-intellectualism founded upon negative prejudice, rather than any legitimate or valid substantive stance on policy.
 
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They are SO quick when there's a hint of a Right leaner doing something wrong with less proof than there is about the Kirk murderer, but they jump on it and hold it tight.
But when it's one of their own who has done the wrong, they are SO quick to keep running away from it with their fingers in their ears. Some of them will always be deniers. A weak people they are.
This is all slanderous. Devil= accuser/slanderer, and paranoia is not proof. Who are you claiming does this?
 
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