We’ve been reading Charles Darwin all wrong

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Says who?

Really? You're going down this route?

 

[AV1611VET]

Says who?

Geb

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Geb

Never mind, just checked.

Not going to lie, it's impressive that you did that. Knew it off the top of your head or did you have to search that?

 

[AV1611VET]

Never mind, just checked.

Not going to lie, it's impressive that you did that. Knew it off the top of your head or did you have to search that?

I had to search it.

I typed in "Egyptian muse of the earth."*

And you do know where I stand on the Muses, do you not?

* Actually Nut comes up, but a little more searching reveals Geb.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I had to search it.

I typed in "Egyptian muse of the earth."*

And you do know where I stand on the Muses, do you not?

* Actually Nut comes up, but a little more searching reveals Geb.

Fair enough.

And I do, and I think it's a bogus way of thinking.

 

[Psalm 27]

Warden, There is no need to speak in terms of millions of years from the point of earth’s creation up until the creation of man five days later. This is important because there are those such as day-age theorists and progressive creationists who would try to squeeze millions of years into the first five days of creation. This is unscriptural, unscientific and unnecessary. A clear face value reading of Genesis chapter one would lead any reader to conclude there are six creation days from Earth to Adam. Mental gymnastics are required to make it say anything else.

Daniel Durston
EARTH’S AGE: Where does the age for the earth of around 6,000 years come from?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Warden, There is no need to speak in terms of millions of years from the point of earth’s creation up until the creation of man five days later. This is important because there are those such as day-age theorists and progressive creationists who would try to squeeze millions of years into the first five days of creation. This is unscriptural, unscientific and unnecessary. A clear face value reading of Genesis chapter one would lead any reader to conclude there are six creation days from Earth to Adam. Mental gymnastics are required to make it say anything else.

Daniel Durston
EARTH’S AGE: Where does the age for the earth of around 6,000 years come from?

And yet God's own creation shows evidence of many BILLIONS of years.

How does that work?

 

[AV1611VET]

And I do, and I think it's a bogus way of thinking.

Paul says we ...

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

It is because of this that some ... as do I ... think that Satan has created a hierarchy on the earth.

I can't prove it, of course, but I can believe it.

That hierarchy goes like this:

1. Satan
2. Then the Muses, who report to Satan.
   
3. Then various teacher-demons that report to the Muses.
4. Then from there, it's anybody's guess.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Paul says we ...

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

It is because of this that some ... as do I ... think that Satan has created a hierarchy on the earth.

I can't prove it, of course, but I can believe it.

That hierarchy goes like this:

1. Satan
2. Then the Muses, who report to Satan.
   
3. Then various teacher-demons that report to the Muses.
4. Then from there, it's anybody's guess.

You can believe it all you want. I'll still say that it's a bogus way of thinking.

 

[AV1611VET]

And yet God's own creation shows evidence of many BILLIONS of years.

How does that work?

Paul warns us not to mess with the "rudiments of the world," lest we spoil ourselves.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

What are those rudiments? look no further than the Periodic Table.

 

[AV1611VET]

You can believe it all you want. I'll still say that it's a bogus way of thinking.

I understand.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Paul warns us not to mess with the "rudiments of the world," lest we spoil ourselves.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

What are those rudiments? look no further than the Periodic Table.

Going by Google, rudiments either means:
1. the first principles of (a subject)
or an elementary or primitive form of (something)

2. (relating to biology) an undeveloped or immature part or organ, especially a structure in an embryo or larva which will develop into an organ, limb, etc.

3. (relating to music) a basic pattern used by drummers, such as the roll, the flam, and the paradiddle.

So 3 is definitely out, even in poetic language, and there is nothing in there about the Periodic Table.

So... nope. Not right at all.

 

[Astrid]

Ever read Job? Science before scientists

Of course ive read it.
" science b4 scientists"?

I dont suppose you want to post on topic or anything.

 

[Astrid]

Warden, There is no need to speak in terms of millions of years from the point of earth’s creation up until the creation of man five days later. This is important because there are those such as day-age theorists and progressive creationists who would try to squeeze millions of years into the first five days of creation. This is unscriptural, unscientific and unnecessary. A clear face value reading of Genesis chapter one would lead any reader to conclude there are six creation days from Earth to Adam. Mental gymnastics are required to make it say anything else.

Daniel Durston
EARTH’S AGE: Where does the age for the earth of around 6,000 years come from?

You are right. Thats why I say the bible is the wrong
place for material facts. The story is about God and
some sort of spiritual stuff, not in any sense a history
of actual events.

 

[Astrid]

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[Astrid]

Warden, There is no need to speak in terms of millions of years from the point of earth’s creation up until the creation of man five days later. This is important because there are those such as day-age theorists and progressive creationists who would try to squeeze millions of years into the first five days of creation. This is unscriptural, unscientific and unnecessary. A clear face value reading of Genesis chapter one would lead any reader to conclude there are six creation days from Earth to Adam. Mental gymnastics are required to make it say anything else.

Daniel Durston
EARTH’S AGE: Where does the age for the earth of around 6,000 years come from?

Re link- do you actually believe facts never contradict scripture?

 

[AV1611VET]

So 3 is definitely out, even in poetic language, and there is nothing in there about the Periodic Table.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

The Albert Barne's NT Commentary says this:

After the rudiments of the world. Marg., elements. See this explained See Barnes for Galatians 4:3.

Galatians 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

Then he says:

It is applied to the elements or component parts of the physical world, 2 Peter 3:10,12.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

The Albert Barne's NT Commentary says this:

Galatians 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

Then he says:

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

And yet, that says nothing about God's creation showing that the age is of the Earth is several billion years old.

 

[AV1611VET]

And yet, that says nothing about God's creation showing that the age is of the Earth is several billion years old.

1. Can God create a dress tomorrow so old it falls apart with age?

2. If God created a warm loaf of raisin bread in a split second, would that be deceptive, since:

a) It is warm
b) It has raisins, which are dried grapes.​

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

1. Can God create a dress tomorrow so old it falls apart with age?

2. If God created a warm loaf of raisin bread in a split second, would that be deceptive, since:

a) It is warm
b) It has raisins, which are dried grapes.​

Oh yeah, God can do that, because he's God.

But why would he create something with billions of years of age while a book claiming to be His word says that it's only 6,000?
Logic dictates that one of them is wrong.