"Water witching" - divination

[TruthSetsYouFree]

We are having a well drilled in a few weeks - the Lord has put this on my heart for several weeks now - must be for a reason - Doing some research -

What are your thoughts on this?

The Bible speaks clearly about divination as being witchcraft. Don't understand this much and wondered why it would be against God's will if it is helpful, but it clearly says not to do it, in fact it says it carries a curse.

Water Witching is full blooded occult, and is spiritually dangerous. It's one of the things that the enemy uses to 'lure' people in. Just like the demonic kingdom can 'fake' healings, 'tell fortunes' etc. to get people to take the bait. Some think it might be practical to know their future so they can better plan for it... seems practical and useful, right? Wrong. You don't even have to be the one telling the fortune, etc.... the Bible says that just seeking others with familiar spirits become defiled themselves.

If there was such a thing as 'reactions to positive/negative poles', etc. as some believe... then we'd see things flip flopping all over the ground for no apparent reason. You'd be carrying a coat hanger out to your car, and all of a sudden, it would want to pull down towards the ground! Children would be playing outside and their toys would start acting silly just because there's water below them. How come don't us fishermen have our fishing poles going crazy when we're out in a river? Why can one person 'do it' when another person using the same exact 'style' (excluding the spiritual ability), and they could stand out there all day with no results. And if it has something to do with something being 'charged' negatively or positively, then why did your neighbor use a piece of wire, yet others use sticks... some people can only use cherry wood, while others use oak... why can the person who uses cherry is unsuccessful using oak? They can make one work, but the next guy can use oak and not cherry?

Occult levitation: Trying to scientifically explain this is like trying to explain the time when I watched some boys move a huge potted tree when NOBODY was touching it... it was moving on it's own. It's called levitation. People use it to make their bodies float in the air in the occult/Satanism world. Clearly demons can lift things up or push things down.

Here's two important points I'd like to make:

- Science cannot explain why guy #1 can use cherry but not oak, but guy #2 can use oak and not cherry. Neither can science explain why one person can 'do it' while the other one can't, while using the same techniques.

- Levitation is a common thing in the world of the occult and Satanism. It's where demons will lift something into the air and hold it there. Demons are also known to make something so heavy that you can't pick it up either, even if you naturally could pick it up.

If you aren't sure it's not occult, but it has all the makings of being the occult, then I wouldn't even consider taking such a risk.

I had at least one person in my family tree who had occult power (which was obvious in other areas of their life) and they had no problem whipping out a stick and making it move above a vein of water.

I hope this helps!

Bobby

 

[TruthSetsYouFree]

P.S. If the wording is off a little in my last post (like about 'your neighbor using a wooden stick'), please forgive me... that was mostly copied from another post I made a while ago....

 

[TreeOfLife]

Should we cast lots to find out if this is demonic or not?

 

[SharonL]

my father used to do this before he became a Christian. After he became a Christian he couldn't do it anymore, he tried and couldn't.
anecdotal perhaps but its what happened, just sharing in case it helps.

When I was doing some research on this I read whereseveral people gathered around a person doing some witching and prayed against it and it stopped. It becomes more and more clear why the Bible says do not do it.

 

[riverpastor]

Main Entry: div·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: "di-v&-'nA-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English divinacioun, from Latin divination-, divinatio, from divinare
1 : the art or practice that seeks to foresee or foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge usually by the interpretation of omens or by the aid of supernatural powers
2 : unusual insight : intuitive perception

 

[riverpastor]

I can find water with a coat hanger... I put it where there is expected water.

If it is wet then there is water, otherwise there is not.

Cheers,
|Z|

You're a nut!

 

[riverpastor]

Double post!

 

[Trish1947]

My dog could pick up those rods in his mouth and run across the yard, and they would cross each other over a water line. Does that mean my dog is practicing the occult? I'm just not conveinced.

 

[Simon_Templar]

wouldnt prayer for the holy spirit to help you work just as well?

I'm all for prayer, but seriously... next time I'm going to get into my car to drive somewhere, should I pause and pray myself there instead?

 

[lismore]

I'm all for prayer, but seriously... next time I'm going to get into my car to drive somewhere, should I pause and pray myself there instead?

Such things are scriptural and indeed happen today.

Acts 8

39When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing. 40Philip, however, appeared at Azotus and traveled about, preaching the gospel in all the towns until he reached Caesarea.

1 Kings 18

46 The power of the LORD came upon Elijah and, tucking his cloak into his belt, he ran ahead of Ahab all the way to Jezreel.


I have heard people testifying to this and have even once seen God acting with a mighty hand for someone.

We have a God who does wonders, who opens seas rather than let people go round it, who raises the dead lazarus rather than healing him when alive.

Is anything too hard for him? He wants the world to honour his name by demonstrations of his mighty power. Unless the people see his power they shall not believe.

Jeremiah 32:27 NIV
"I am the LORD, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me?

If there is a blockage, it is on our side.

 

[lismore]

My dog could pick up those rods in his mouth and run across the yard, and they would cross each other over a water line. Does that mean my dog is practicing the occult? I'm just not conveinced.

if you look in the bible when there was occult practice. Look for example at Agog King of the Amalekites. God told Samuel to tell Saul to kill all the amalekites and all their crops and animals to bring purification. God rejected Saul as King because Saul did not destroy everything- he kept some cows for tucker and left AGog alive.

So I wouldnt let the dog run about with divination rods if I was you. There is no neutral ground- its either the Lord's or the enemy's

 

[whitedove7]

The origin of water witching or dowsing:

First, lets look at the word meaning of divination - Divination is the practice of ascertaining information from supernatural sources. That means using any modality apart from God.

Second, lets look at the word meaning for occult - The word occult comes from Latin occultus (hidden), referring to the 'knowledge of the secret' or 'knowledge of the hidden' and often meaning 'knowledge of the supernatural', as opposed to 'knowledge of the visible' or 'knowledge of the measurable', usually referred to as science.

Dowsing, is the employment of various shaped rods for divination goes all the way back to the ancient Greeks and Egyptians…In the Middle Ages, it was associated with the power of Satan.

Scientific Studies:

There have been many investigations of the veracity of dowsing. The positive studies were mostly informal and did not meet scientific standards. These studies failed to exclude alternate explanations such as environmental clues in open terrain.

What Is the Source of This Force?
The Occult. When asked to prove the existence of this energy, the healers used a dowsing rod and pendulum - old instruments of the occult. "Sensitivity to the rod and ability to make a pendulum react are psychic powers," says Dr. Kurt Kosch in his book, Occult (p. 188). The healers even admit the connection!

When we see something that looks good and we cannot find it in the word of God, then we need to do a checkpoint to see if it is of God or does it come from some other origin. Here is a checklist to test:

· Who was the founder of this modality?
· What was his/her spirituality?
· What culture did it come out of?
· What were their beliefs?
· Who is their God or gods?
· Are they doing soul therapy or a type of psychology of any type?
· Is an example found in the word of God? I don’t believe the examples of God are hidden from us but are written specifically.

To find water, perhaps for a well on your property, ask God, in prayer, for help in finding the best place to drill. Otherwise, arn't we going to the lessor and not the greater, our Lord, that knows everything? Don't you think he would show his people where?

SharonL, I hope this answers your question and helps anyone that is not for sure. I am only giving the facts and you can make your decisions. I am a researcher by nature and will research truth.

 

[Trish1947]

if you look in the bible when there was occult practice. Look for example at Agog King of the Amalekites. God told Samuel to tell Saul to kill all the amalekites and all their crops and animals to bring purification. God rejected Saul as King because Saul did not destroy everything- he kept some cows for tucker and left AGog alive.

So I wouldnt let the dog run about with divination rods if I was you. There is no neutral ground- its either the Lord's or the enemy's

Amazing. It's like we still live in the sixteeth century. I know that divination is still practiced. They are seeking a spirit to give them the answer. If a person has the Holy Spirit, at no time are they asking another spirit for the answer. The rods will cross regardless, because of magnetic disruption due to water. I suppose it's a form of divination to use a stud finder. I would be seeking where the studs are in a wall, and there is a device that can do that. Is this divination because I don't know where they are located? And since I wouldn't understand the principal of how it works, I should avoid stud finders?

It might have come from someone finding that rods work, and got the bright idea that "Hey this is going to "prove" to others that I have some power, and make a name for myself, and make some money at it to boot. Sure it looked powerful to those back then. The whole thing was a deception..from the ones that convienced others that they had power, and to those that believed it did.

 

[KingZzub]

But does it work under scientific principles.

That is the question, surely?

Cheers,
|ZZ|

 

[Trish1947]

But does it work under scientific principles.

That is the question, surely?

Cheers,
|ZZ|

That's the thing. Some say it does, some say it don't. I think it's the history of where it started that presents the problem. But some people used to believe the earth was flat, and if you went too far off into the ocean, you would fall off.
Anyway, since my Uncle has used rods to find ditch water for years, on his farm, and has no qualms about it at all, and on top of that I'm not going to be bringing it up to him, since he's also a Pastor of a Church. LOL.. He's 87 years old. I don't think he could take the shock..

 

[lismore]

Amazing. It's like we still live in the sixteeth century. I know that divination is still practiced. They are seeking a spirit to give them the answer. If a person has the Holy Spirit, at no time are they asking another spirit for the answer.
.

Trish,

A person with the Holy SPirit can sin. There is evil in this world that we have to be aware of.

Psalm 119:11 NIV
I have hidden your word in my heart that I might not sin against you.

We need to be aware of the practices of the world and aware of what God's word says on these things.

Deuteronomy 18:14 NIV
The nations you will dispossess listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, the LORD your God has not permitted you to do so.

Regardless of what you think of the sixteenth century,or how harmless things look or misguided you think some people are, please do not practise divination.

Its a door to the dark realms. Look at Saul going to see a spiritualist medium. Believers can get into bad stuff and fall.

The rods will cross regardless, because of magnetic disruption due to water. I suppose it's a form of divination to use a stud finder. I would be seeking where the studs are in a wall, and there is a device that can do that. Is this divination because I don't know where they are located? And since I wouldn't understand the principal of how it works, I should avoid stud finders?

It might have come from someone finding that rods work, and got the bright idea that "Hey this is going to "prove" to others that I have some power, and make a name for myself, and make some money at it to boot. Sure it looked powerful to those back then. The whole thing was a deception..from the ones that convienced others that they had power, and to those that believed it did.

You have to be careful of ley lines, divination, metaphysics and magical incantations etc. Please. Im not getting at you im warning you. Its a doorway to danger. Someone I knew who was a christian and led people to the Lord got into divination and went deeper, deeper until was a full fledged witch. God never says anything to be a tyrant: his instructions have a meaning for your good and protection.

Leave the divination alone . Saying this in love.

Lismore

 

[Trish1947]

Leave the divination alone . Saying this in love.

Lismore

Thank you for your concern...But trust me, I have never used them in my life. My water company does.

 

[lismore]

Thank you for your concern...But trust me, I have never used them in my life. My water company does.

GBU

One thing we are not short of here is water!

 

[KingZzub]

I have a twig that lets me find wind as well.

I just chuck it in the air and it goes in the direction of the wind.

Not only that, the faster the wind, the further it goes.

It never fails.

Cheers,
|Zz|

 

[Trish1947]

I have a twig that lets me find wind as well.

I just chuck it in the air and it goes in the direction of the wind.

Not only that, the faster the wind, the further it goes.

It never fails.

Cheers,
|Zz|

Dandilion flowers work well too. Just blow on them, and they follow the wind everytime.

Z..your a riot.