Was the Last Supper a Seder?

[HARK!]

Please explain any evidence that you have acquired concerning throat slicing

I explained it in post #276

 

[pinacled]

I explained it in post #276

No,
There is not an explanation for throat slicing in that numbered post.

Question:
For all readers

How many limbs pierced did Yeshua endure?

 

[HARK!]

No,
There is not an explanation for throat slicing in that numbered post.

Yes there is; but apparently you reject the laws of shechita as well.

 

[TreWalker]

There is No need to do so.

Question:
For all readers

Did The Lord Yeshua ever have his throat slit by the enemy?

עין זבח כאן
הוא לא רואה השלמים

 

[Ronit]

The guy who performs the circumcision?

You mean the Mohel?

 

[pinacled]

עין זבח כאן
הוא לא רואה השלמים

Prayer?

 

[pinacled]

עין זבח כאן
הוא לא רואה השלמים

What about the 4 cups?
are you courageous enough to share in fellowship

 

[HARK!]

עין זבח כאן
הוא לא רואה השלמים

אבל אז הסרתי את המסנוורים שלי

 

[HARK!]

You mean the Mohel?

Yes; but I don't think that he checks them at the door, before they dine.

I made that post a couple of years ago. I don't believe that Visionary made her post in response to mine. It doesn't follow. I suspect that she was responding to a post that has been deleted. It was probably a post from someone who doesn't keep Passover, and cited the law that says that the uncircumcised can't.

It seems I remember having such a discussion; but it has been too long ago to be sure.

 

[Ronit]

Yes; but I don't think that he checks them at the door, before they dine.

I made that post a couple of years ago. I don't believe that Visionary made her post in response to mine. It doesn't follow. I suspect that she was responding to a post that has been deleted. It was probably a post from someone who doesn't keep Passover, and cited the law that says that the uncircumcised can't.

It seems I remember having such a discussion; but it has been to long ago to be sure.

Everything is said in the Bible. People just need to Read it

 

[pinacled]

Meshech Hochma, Vayikra 41

 

[pinacled]

No,
There is not an explanation for throat slicing in that numbered post.

Question:
For all readers

How many limbs pierced did Yeshua endure?

Question:
How many limbs did the Lord endure pierced on the cross?

 

[HARK!]

Meshech Hochma, Vayikra 41

You should know by now that I place Torah over commentary. I'll just go with what YHWH says.

 

[pinacled]

I know how hanni works

 

[HARK!]

I know how hanni works

Have you figured out how shechita works?

 

[ralliann]

Artos/Arton is usually leavened bread.

Usually, but as I said not necessarily.

Azymos is specifically UNleavened.

Well, yes since it since it means without yeast, of course it is unleavened.

 

[ralliann]

HARK!, ralliann, HARK!, ralliann, HARK!, ralliann, HARK!, ralliann, HARK!, ralliann, etc and etc. Reminds me of a husband and wife who both think they're right when it's just as likely they're both wrong. In this case ralliann is definitely in the wrong (1 Corinthians14:34-35).

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The Word of GOD never instructed the Israelites to roast and eat the Passover lambs, with unleavened bread and bitter herbs on Nisan 15(Exodus 12:8). ralliann does a disservice to the Word of GOD by mistakenly giving the impression it's ok to deviate from the command of GOD (Exodus 12:6-12). The Israelites ate roasted lamb with unleavened bread and bitter herbs on Nisan 14 (read Exodus 12:8).

Apparently ralliann doesn't read or believe the Torah of GOD that commands that the roasted Passover lamb with unleavened bread and bitter herbs (Exodus 12:8) is to be consumed on Nisan 14. Instead she would rather follow some man-made religious belief. It's as if she will not take to heart Exodus 12:6-12 pointing out the error in her thinking.

Exodus 12:6-12 (Complete Jewish Bible))
6 Take care of them until the fourteenth day of the month, when all the members of the community of Israel must slaughter them at twilight.
7 Then they are to take some of the blood and put it on the sides and tops of the door frames of the houses where they eat the lambs.
8 That night, they are to eat the meat, roasted in the fire; they are to eat it with matzah and maror.
9 Do not eat the meat raw or boiled in water, but roast it over a fire—with the head, legs and internal organs.
10 Do not leave any of it till morning; if some is left till morning, you must burn it.
11 This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; it is the Lord’s Passover.
12 “On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the Lord.

Exodus 12:6-12 (King James Version)
6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.
10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.
11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the Lord's passover.
12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.​

The lambs are to be slaughtered between sunset and sundown (time span of about 70 minutes) and nighttime at the beginning of Nisan 14. This is how "between the evenings" (twilight) was understood by Moses and the Israelites when the lambs were to be slain. HARK! and ralliann's belief is an example of how like sheep people can be led astray by man-made religious traditions.

The Pharisees and Sadducees changed the original meaning of "ben ha-erebim" (between the evenings) from sunset to sundown (about 70 minutes) to from noon to sunset (about six hours in Jerusalem that time of the year). Probably for their own convenience and the convenience of the people. ralliann believes the Feast of Unleavened Bread with roasted lamb, unleavened bread and bitter herbs was during Nisan 15 during the time of Yeshua/Yahshua.

Both HARK! and ralliann have been led astray by a man-made religious tradition that deviates from the Torah (Exodus 12:6-12).

Exodus 12:6 (YLT)
6 `And it hath become a charge to you, until the fourteenth day of this month, and the whole assembly of the company of Israel have slaughtered it between the evenings;​

For someone to actually believe that "ben ha-erebim" (between the evenings) actually means from noon to sunset only goes to show how easily people, like sheep, can be led astray. Like some religious people that believe when an infant is sprinkled with holy water they are saved and born again. Can you ever talk them out of it? Not likely if they are loyal to their denominational beliefs. In a similar way ralliann and possibly HARK! are both blind to Exodus 12:6-12 and the command of GOD for the Israelites to observe both Pesach and Unleavened Bread beginning on Nisan 14 (Exodus 14:8) ...

8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night (Nisan 14), roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. (KJV)
8 That night (Nisan 14), they are to eat the meat, roasted in the fire; they are to eat it with matzah and maror. (CJB)​

They were to memorialize the day with a feast.
Ex 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

When was that feast?

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD’S passover.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

 

[ralliann]

I'm not a Samaritan; but Samaritans follow Torah. As a matter of fact; they stayed in the land and kept practicing after both Temples were destroyed. Their Torah is still written in the ancient Hebrew. There is much to be learned from them.

What about this?
Lev 17:2 Speak unto Aaron, and unto his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them; This is the thing which the LORD hath commanded, saying,
3 What man soever there be of the house of Israel, that killeth an ox, or lamb, or goat, in the camp, or that killeth it out of the camp,
4 And bringeth it not unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, to offer an offering unto the LORD before the tabernacle of the LORD; blood shall be imputed unto that man; he hath shed blood; and that man shall be cut off from among his people:
5 To the end that the children of Israel may bring their sacrifices, which they offer in the open field, even that they may bring them unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest, and offer them for peace offerings unto the LORD.
6 And the priest shall sprinkle the blood upon the altar of the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the LORD.
7 And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.

 

[LookuntoYeshua]

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[LookuntoYeshua]

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