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Was Kamala aware of Joe’s decline?

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Yes. That was option 2.
Respectfully, what you call "option two", does NOT denote that Harris sincerely didn't feel Biden had declined too far to do the job. The inference built into the op insinuates that Harris either didn't know Joe was in decline, or she did know he had declined too far but didn't tell the American people when she said she would.

"If she was, what does that say about her, especially since she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far."
 
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Respectfully, what you call "option two" does not denote that Harris felt Biden had not declined too far. The inference built into the op insinuates that Harris either didn't know Joe was in decline, or she did know he had declined too far but didn't tell the American people.
The question was if she was aware of his decline. Everyone knows he was in decline. Did she?
 
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“If Joe Biden is not fit to run for President, he is not fit to serve as President. He must resign the office immediately,” Johnson, a Republican from Louisiana, said in a statement Sunday afternoon.

The op (and Speaker Johnson) are arguing that running for office and fit to serve as President are one and the same. They are not.

Many BIden supporters realized that Biden was no longer capable of taking Trump to task. That was painfully evident during the debate. Hence, many, including myself, called on the President to leave the race.

No one, including the Speaker of the House, has presented any evidence the President is unfit to serve for the remainder of his term.
 
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The question was if she was aware of his decline. Everyone knows he was in decline. Did she?
Surely she knew he was declining. But as I said, I think his judgement was still fine. Or at least we have no evidence it wasn't.

So her role was to go along until there was an actual problem that was more than political. There's a certain loyalty pressure on the VP I think. Its for others to do the dirty work - unless theres full on 25A type breakdown or manifestly illegal / unconstitutional actions.
 
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“If Joe Biden is not fit to run for President, he is not fit to serve as President. He must resign the office immediately,” Johnson, a Republican from Louisiana, said in a statement Sunday afternoon.

The op (and Speaker Johnson) are arguing that running for office and fit to serve as President are one and the same. They are not.

Many BIden supporters realized that Biden was no longer capable of taking Trump to task. That was painfully evident during the debate. Hence, many, including myself, called on the President to leave the race.

No one, including the Speaker of the House, has presented any evidence the President is unfit to serve for the remainder of his term.
Can you post that in a thread where that’s the topic?
 
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Surely she knew he was declining. But as I said, I think his judgement was still fine. Or at least we have no evidence it wasn't.

So her role was to go along until there was an actual problem that was more than political. There's a certain loyalty pressure on the VP I think. Its for others to do the dirty work - unless theres full on 25A type breakdown or manifestly illegal / unconstitutional actions.
You may want to actually read some of the comments from the Capitol Hill gang that were calling for him to step down. I wanted to check to see if I was remembering correctly, so I googled it. There were few, if any, that thought he was capable of still running the country. Harris had to have known that.
 
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You may want to actually read some of the comments from the Capitol Hill gang that were calling for him to step down. I wanted to check to see if I was remembering correctly, so I googled it. There were few, if any, that thought he was capable of still running the country. Harris had to have known that.

Is this thread about Biden's ability to run the country to whether Harris should have said something about Biden's decline?
 
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You may want to actually read some of the comments from the Capitol Hill gang that were calling for him to step down. I wanted to check to see if I was remembering correctly, so I googled it. There were few, if any, that thought he was capable of still running the country. Harris had to have known that.
Ive heard this and that from prominent people. Mainly its about his suitability for the campaign and for the years down the road. Perhaps Im missing out on a few choice bits. Either way I dont care. Biden is retiring. Harris has performed her role as we should expect.
 
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The question was if she was aware of his decline. Everyone knows he was in decline. Did she?
Any reasoning based on a falsehood ends in a contradiction. When you claim that she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far, then you present a contradiction in reasoning when you ask did she know he was in decline.

Do you realize you're reasoning on a falsehood?
 
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Is this thread about Biden's ability to run the country to whether Harris should have said something about Biden's decline?
Apparently they want to know if Harris kept a secret about the President's ability to lead, and will use this to attack her claiming people who did not run to the press to say how bad Biden was is not fit to lead the country. The question not a very good one, and the conclusion makes no logical sense.
 
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So?

Have any cabinet officers expressed concern that Biden is incapable of carrying out the duties of President for the remainder of his term?

Are these the same cabinet members that participated in the big lie that Biden was "sharp as a tack"? Why in the world would anyone trust anything they say?
 
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Are these the same cabinet members that participated in the big lie that Biden was "sharp as a tack"? Why in the world would anyone trust anything they say?

Is Michael Douglas a member of Biden's cabinet?
 
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Are these the same cabinet members that participated in the big lie that Biden was "sharp as a tack"? Why in the world would anyone trust anything they say?
You should provide the actual statement along with more context. Perhaps you're misunderstanding what they mean by "sharp as a tack" (assuming someone said it). It's wrong to entertain slander.
 
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Is Michael Douglas a member of Biden's cabinet?

Are we now pretending that there wasn't a universal chorus extolling just how sharp Biden was?

 
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Any reasoning based on a falsehood ends in a contradiction. When you claim that she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far, then you present a contradiction in reasoning when you ask did she know he was in decline.

Do you realize you're reasoning on a falsehood?
In order to know if he declined too far, she’d have to know he was in a decline. So basically it’s, what did she know, and when did she know it?
 
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Are we now pretending that there wasn't a universal chorus extolling just how sharp Biden was?

There’s definitely a circling of the wagons to protect Harris.
 
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