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Was Hilter a Christian or not?

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arunma

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shinbits said:
If he was a Christian, he didn't believe in it, or try to follow Christian princaples.

If Hilter did, he would've respected the Jews as God's chosen people. He would've also followed the Commandment of "Thou Shall Not Kill".

Hitler may have claimed Christianity, but obviously wasn't. Jesus says of such people when they die, "Away from me; I never knew you."

And then there are those of us who believe in traditional theology, who entirely reject anti-semitism, while believing that Christians rather than Jews are God's chosen people.
 
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Hitler was an occultist. End of story. And when Haggefan says that the Qur'an and Mien Kampf are identical, it tells me this: They have read both. For the ones who like to spout off before thinking, please supply your reasons for criticizing that statement. When you come to realize that other than the dates and places, they are identical, you will understand why it is so crucial to expose, and condemn Islam. Last time, it cost 55 million lives. This time will be far worse. It is NEVER compassionate to tolerate evil.
 
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YahwehisHisname said:
when Haggefan says that the Qur'an and Mien Kampf are identical, it tells me this: They have read both. For the ones who like to spout off before thinking, please supply your reasons for criticizing that statement. When you come to realize that other than the dates and places, they are identical,.

Many I know like to speak out of their *!?${ without providing a shred of evidence.Where is your evidence.Have you read mein kampf and have you read the whole of the quran? It is so easy just to make claim, the problem is to back up with evidence

YahwehisHisname said:
you will understand why it is so crucial to expose, and condemn Islam..
So if you have understood please tell us too so we can understand

YahwehisHisname said:
Last time, it cost 55 million lives. .
Where did you get that figure from
YahwehisHisname said:
This time will be far worse..
.This time do? are you reffering to the Millions massacred in the genocides in Bonia herzegovinia and In Palestine
YahwehisHisname said:
It is NEVER compassionate to tolerate evil.
Too right it isn't I am sure you agree with me.
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I think it's dumb to think Hitler was a christian. Such an assertion is something I'd expect from a failing student in History. I never read anywhere that Hitler was chrstian. And the bible does not support the idea of such a murderer knowing anything about christianity. The man Jesus was a Jew. Are we so dense as to suggest that Hitler who killed 6 million Jews would believe in a faith that fulfilled the jewish law, prophecies and psalms? I find it insulting that we're even debating this. I'd credit people with a lot more integrity.
 
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elijah115 said:
I think it's dumb to think Hitler was a christian. Such an assertion is something I'd expect from a failing student in History. I never read anywhere that Hitler was chrstian. And the bible does not support the idea of such a murderer knowing anything about christianity. The man Jesus was a Jew. Are we so dense as to suggest that Hitler who killed 6 million Jews would believe in a faith that fulfilled the jewish law, prophecies and psalms? I find it insulting that we're even debating this. I'd credit people with a lot more integrity.

I can understand why you find it insulting but not why you find it surprising. I don't know about Hitler's particular beliefs (from what I understand he was into weird stuff like theosophy), but Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, often in countries where the population was almost exclusively Christian. Hitler and his cohorts weren't the first.

And keep in mind that Hitler was not the sum of the Nazis. My reading of history tells me that many of the people guarding concentration camps, watching people die, were just normal, church-going folks who were swept up in the storm.
 
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I agree elijah.

If people would read Mein Kampf, they would know that Hitler was as anti-Christian as he was anti-Jew. They would learn that Mein Kampf is Hitler’s religion, and one he created to replace Judeo-Christianity. They may learn that the Nazi prayers were to Hitler. But they couldn't miss the fact that Hitler’s “god” loved killing Jews as much as Muhammad’s did. Mein Kampf is an equally ruthless and vicious attack on Christianity and Judaism as is Muhammed's Qur'an. They are equally hateful of Yahweh and His scriptures. Hitler complemented one prophet in Mein Kampf--and that was Muhammed.

Mein Kampf and the Islamic scriptures are substantially the same.

Bukhari:V4B53N412 “Allah’s Apostle said on the day of the conquest of Mecca, ‘There is no migration now, only Jihad, holy battle. And when you are called for Jihad, you should come out at once.’”
The message is as clear as Mein Kampf, Pearl Harbor, and 9/11: “There is only Jihad.”
Hitler, repeated Muhammad’s line the morning he invaded Poland: “There is no more emigration now, only war.”

‘The Nazi Party will free you from the power of the Jew. My aim is a thorough solution, the removal of the Jews from the midst of our people.’
Hitler's mentor, obviously was Muhammed. This is what Muslims are doing this very day.

And I hope people do not think the crusaders were "christians" either. That is simply impossible.
 
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If you were a Christian who openly said you loved the Jewish people and /or were found hiding Jews, you would most likely eventually be beaten up at the very least. At the worst, they'd stick you in a camp so you could die along with "your friends."
 
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elijah115 said:
I think it's dumb to think Hitler was a christian. Such an assertion is something I'd expect from a failing student in History...

WoW! you think so.I bet you would not think so if someone suggest he was a Muslim.Why try to make Christians be perfect when they are not.







elijah115 said:
I never read anywhere that Hitler was chrstian..
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

There is always afirst for every thing.its my pleasure

elijah115 said:
Are we so dense as to suggest that Hitler who killed 6 million Jews would believe in a faith that fulfilled the jewish law, prophecies and psalms? ..
Well looks like the man admits it with his own mouth.

Anyway he came into power with the support of the church.He was backed all the way by bishops and Priests.

Here is our non Christian hitler shaking hands with the Cardinal.
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For a man who was not Christian.WOW!

Now how often do you see this.A man who does not beleive in GOD (who is an ooccultist as some may want to beleive) Leaving Church?
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Evidence that shows he was a Staunch Christian and the Church backed him in what he did.

The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Not until my fourteenth or fifteenth year did I begin to come across the word 'Jew,' with any frequency, partly in connection with political discussions.... For the Jew was still characterized for me by nothing but his religion, and therefore, on grounds of human tolerance, I maintained my rejection of religious attacks in this case as in others. Consequently, the tone, particularly that of the Viennese anti-Semitic press, seemed to me unworthy of the cultural tradition of a great nation.

At all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna's destinies: Dr. Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Note: Karl Lueger (1844-1910) belonged as a member of the anti-Semitic Christian Social Party, he became mayor of Vienna and kept his post until his death.)

The words of a christian Below
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
A real crusader isn't he?


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He even quotes from the Bible, with his own twist:
Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be 'discovered' by an election.
-Adolf Hitler with his twist on Mark 10:25 (Mein Kampf)


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Protestantism as such is a better defender of the interests of Germanism, in so far as this is grounded in its genesis and later tradition; it fails, however, in the moment when this defense of national interests must take place in a province which is either absent from the general line of its ideological world and traditional development, or is for some reason rejected.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Evidences that Hitler and his lark were all Christians and and devout ones too.They shook hand with the cardinals and priests.
I bet many are going into Full gear denial mode LOL.

Verily a man cannot serve two masters. And I consider the foundation or destruction of a religion far greater than the foundation or destruction of a state, let alone a party.
-Adolf Hitler speaking like Jesus in Matthew 6:24 (Mein Kampf):liturgy:

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YahwehisHisname said:
and Judaism as is Muhammed's Qur'an. They are equally hateful of Yahweh and His scriptures. Hitler complemented one prophet in Mein Kampf--and that was Muhammed.

Mein Kampf and the Islamic scriptures are substantially the same.
Still waiting for evidence otherwise the claims are baseless if not backed by evidence.

YahwehisHisname said:
Bukhari:V4B53N412 “Allah’s Apostle said on the day of the conquest of Mecca, ‘There is no migration now, only Jihad, holy battle. And when you are called for Jihad, you should come out at once.’” .
Of course what do you expect if the forces of evil were attacking your brothers and sisters would you sit down and watch. I want to see you people turn the other cheek and love your enemies.When it gets to this point then it is only lip service.Muslims like every body else have the right to defend themselves

YahwehisHisname said:
The message is as clear as Mein Kampf, Pearl Harbor, and 9/11: .
Did the Japs just sudenly become muslim that is why you compare Pearl hearbour to 911 or are you one of those who agree with some of your leaders whebn they said they needed another pearl harbour to sway public opinion back.


YahwehisHisname said:
And I hope people do not think the crusaders were "christians" either. That is simply impossible.
mmm let me see they were Muslims were they not.
Should we start another to show you how Much Christianity was rooted in the Crusades.So much so that they Slaughtered loads of Jews cos Crusaders said anything not christian was infidel.The warriors took monks with tham and the Pope had promoised them that if they wwent on this Crusade all their past sins would be forgiven. Does that not sound like Christian, sure does to me.
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pictures do not prove something. Please could people stop being gullable for a second. I wonder why in a mainly christian country people would want to belive hitler was a christian. Lets think about this for a moment. mmm

Nazism was his religion.

but i must say he was influanced by muslem actions.

Few people remember the 1905 genocide of christians by turkish muslems.
a german army medic wrote to hitler to please not kill the jews as he had seen it first hand how awfull it was ect.

hitlers reply was something to the meaning of "no one remembers the genocide of yesterday"

or something like that.
 
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Still waiting for evidence otherwise the claims are baseless if not backed by evidence.

I don't think you have the ability to reason with sound judgment, based on evidence. I have shown you countless "truths" backed up by evidence. I have proven you to either be ignorant of the subject, or worse, deceptive. You brush those off like a duck repels water, and move on to the next topic as if the last doesn't matter. What is the point of proving anything to you?

Of course what do you expect if the forces of evil were attacking your brothers and sisters would you sit down and watch. I want to see you people turn the other cheek and love your enemies.When it gets to this point then it is only lip service.Muslims like every body else have the right to defend themselves

This is a prime example. I have shown many acts of terror by Muslims who were unprovoked against a people of merchants or caravans, trying to go about their lives until Muslim militants attacked, stole their possessions, killed the men, raped the women, and sold the children into slavery.
The Muslims left their homes and attacked in others' hometowns. Only a Muslim could view this as defensive. I have ask for you to prove ANY act that was defensive and you conveniently disappear. Muhammed led 75 terrorist raids personally. Only 2 can be viewed as defensive, and those are only because people got tired of Muhammed killing. Nothing is defensive about Islam. Muslims raided first, attacked first, enslaved first, raped first, and killed first. Why must Muslims lie about their religion?

mmm let me see they were Muslims were they not.
Should we start another to show you how Much Christianity was rooted in the Crusades.So much so that they Slaughtered loads of Jews cos Crusaders said anything not christian was infidel.The warriors took monks with tham and the Pope had promoised them that if they wwent on this Crusade all their past sins would be forgiven. Does that not sound like Christian, sure does to me.

First, the Crusades happened because the first Muslims were barbarians. Using swords, not Qur'ans, they terrorized and conquered much of the world, plundering and taxing it.
The second historical fact is that the Crusaders weren’t Christians. They couldn’t have been. Four
centuries had passed since the last sermon was given in a language common to the people of Europe. The
first Bible to be printed in the vulgar tongue, John Wycliffe’s, wouldn’t find paper for another four
centuries. To be a “Christian” one must know Christ. He could not have been known to the men who fought.



 
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“Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith.”
[FONT=Bookman Old Style, Arial]( Adolf Hitler, in 26 April 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933. )[/FONT]

Sounds like something I hear a lot of Christians say now.
 
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MercuryAndy said:
bible was written in lattin. the catholic church said it was a sin to translate it so no one actualy read it exept edcucated people.

No the bible was probably translated into latin but those that orginally wrote it, didn't even know latin then. The bible was orginally written in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations

God bless
 
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rahul_sharma said:
Is Osama bin Laden Muslim? Those who call him Islamic terrorist should also call Hitler as Christian.

It seems like most christians want to blame everything "evil" on Islam. Even Hitler.
It remind me of these nostalgic fights with your brother or sister...
"He hit me!"
"No, she hit me!"
"I did not!"
"You did!"
"Did not!"
"It was your fault!"
"No it was yours!"

Islam and christianity holds almost exactly the same basics in the beliefs. They're like sibling-religions. And they act like it too.
I'm kind of... waiting for them both to grow up and stop the useless fighting about which god who's better than yours, and who killed who.

Okay, Nahiengas rant is over. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I just wanted to speak my mind about the christianity vs. islam fight.
And yeah, to keep myself on topic, Hitler was a christian. But that doesn't mean he represent christianity.
There are "bad" people in every religion. Live with it.
 
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Nahienga said:
It seems like most christians want to blame everything "evil" on Islam. Even Hitler.
It remind me of these nostalgic fights with your brother or sister...
"He hit me!"
"No, she hit me!"
"I did not!"
"You did!"
"Did not!"
"It was your fault!"
"No it was yours!"

Islam and christianity holds almost exactly the same basics in the beliefs. They're like sibling-religions. And they act like it too.
I'm kind of... waiting for them both to grow up and stop the useless fighting about which god who's better than yours, and who killed who.

Okay, Nahiengas rant is over. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I just wanted to speak my mind about the christianity vs. islam fight.
And yeah, to keep myself on topic, Hitler was a christian. But that doesn't mean he represent christianity.
There are "bad" people in every religion. Live with it.

well said, i agree with you 100%.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Nahienga again.

 
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