Was Adam 200,000 years ago?

[NobleMouse]

The point is that scientific theories are falsifiable. In the history of science theories have been modified or actually rejected. But this happens based on evidence not belief.

Ahhhh, the often loosely used and somewhat elusive term... "evidence". These ages of hundreds of thousands, millions, and even billions of years are not from direct observation and cannot be proven, they are an inference from present evidence seen with assumptions made up to 'fill in the holes' (see post #17) - yet like findings from operational science (in the here and now) these assumptions are presented along with words like 'fact', 'proof', and 'truth'.

I suppose if one does not consider the word of God to be qualified to do so, then one might argue that God's word cannot falsify long-held scientific beliefs. One might even modify and reject certain passages from the Bible until it says the same thing that previously held scientific theories assert. God said He directly made Adam (formed him from the dust of the ground), then made Eve from Adam. So, how and when did Adam come about if God explicitly stated He directly made him and gave us his lineage through to Jesus?

The Adam of Genesis (and much of Genesis as a whole) is seen as 'myth' to some, yet Paul told Timothy in 1 Tim 2:13, "For Adam was formed first, then Eve" and Jesus said to the pharisees in Matt 19:4, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female." Where does one interpret these to mean Adam was the first of only modern humans from 200,000 years ago? Speaking of myths... Paul goes on to tell Timothy in 2 Tim 4:3-4, "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths."

The truth was already known at the time of this letter to Timothy and and myths would later develop (for the time is coming). So which is the myth, what God said He did and when, or what has been made up to 'fill in the holes'? Have we arrived at the time that was yet to come?

Respectfully in Christ,
"Reepicheep"

 

[GingerBeer]

Was Adam 200,000 years ago?

No. Not likely. Adam and Eve's story is likely from less than 10,000 years ago when towns and nations were first beginning to form.

 

[Tayla]

IMO Adam was a mythological ancestor of humanity or some important figure deep in the history of the lineage of semitic peoples.

Thank you for your honest comments.

I'm thinking Adam might be a real person, the first human to think of monotheism (revealed to him from God). Then he passed on the idea through the patriarchs, through Abraham, and to the Israelites, who were the first monotheists.

 

[Tayla]

The Big Bang we understand happens instantly in response to our physics existing, and is our physics in action.

Such speculations are not of any key importance to believers though.

Thank you for your comments.

I wish Christians in general were not so troubled by the results of modern scientific inquiry; but for many, it disturbs them and they have to deny its truths.

 

[Tayla]

Adam is the patriarch of the humans alive today. Y chromosome most recent common ancestor. (Y-MRCA) Humans most likely go back further but they do not share a common ancestor.

Thank you for your comments.

I would be surprised if many young earth creationists agree with the dates for Y-MRCA.

 

[disciple1]

Modern Science demonstrates that anatomically modern humans appeared in Ethiopia 200,000 years ago and migrated to every continent by 60,000 to 30,000 years ago. The evidence of this is:

1. fossils
2. analysis of DNA and genetics from ancient remains

Pay no attention to science, study the bible, the bible is always right, science is not.

 

[GodsWordRevealed]

Faith is based on emotion, science seeks facts. Sometimes the 2 don't agree. Again faith based beliefs are emotions whereas science create theories based on facts. Simply discarding facts is tied into emotions.

 

[NobleMouse]

Thank you for your comments.

I would be surprised if many young earth creationists agree with the dates for Y-MRCA.

I would be surprised if many secular scientists that do C14 dating would agree with the dates for Y-MRCA.

Faith is based on emotion, science seeks facts. Sometimes the 2 don't agree. Again faith based beliefs are emotions whereas science create theories based on facts. Simply discarding facts is tied into emotions.

See post #21

 

[throughfiierytrial]

Modern Science demonstrates that anatomically modern humans appeared in Ethiopia 200,000 years ago and migrated to every continent by 60,000 to 30,000 years ago. The evidence of this is:

1. fossils
2. analysis of DNA and genetics from ancient remains

Examine the TRUE evidence...the Scriptures. If modern science contradicts them, then modern science doesn't carry the weight and authority some would have us believe.

You do know that modern scientist are using the instruments and tools which, well, infallible, human, modern scientists developed with their own fallible minds and hands...many of whom are not, never have been and never will be ever under inspiration of God, but rather adhere to the precepts of the evolutionist sects.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Thank you for your comments.

I would be surprised if many young earth creationists agree with the dates for Y-MRCA.

YEC only goes back 6,000 years. Adam and Eve in the Bible were real people that lived in the Garden of Eden in the Tigris - Euphrates river valley. Today their descendants, the children of Abraham live on the Arab continental plate. An area 1500 by 1500 miles, this is the area that will be the New Jerusalem. The Bible follows the genealogy (DNA) from Adam to Christ. The Bible is filled with stories of the descendants of Adam and Eve, like Ruth, Rehab, David and even Moses. Those of us that are gentiles are adopted into the family. We are wild branches grafted into the cultivate tree.

As a dispensationalist I believe a day in Genesis chapter one represents 1,000 years. The age or era we live in began around 12,988 years ago. There was an extinction at the time when 90% of the species went extinct. The world was in a state of ruin and God repopulated the earth with a remnant or 10% of the species that were alive at that time. The nano diamond comet is a marker for the event. I am not saying the comet is a cause, just a marker. "Nanodiamond" Find Supports Comet Extinction Theory

I believe there will be another comet that will be a marker for the 2,000 year anniversary of when Jesus gave Himself on calvary. This is called Apophsis by NASA. Again just a marker.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Pay no attention to science, study the bible, the bible is always right, science is not.

The Bible is very exact and very precise. They are now using the word Paradigm: an exact pattern or blueprint. The wise men using the Bible were able to predict the exact place and the exact time when Jesus would be born.

 

[JackRT]

Pay no attention to science, study the bible, the bible is always right, science is not.

And here you are living a life style that would be completely impossible without modern science. We are also communicating over devices that would be unheard of without science. so go right ahead and pay no attention to science.

 

[disciple1]

And here you are living a life style that would be completely impossible without modern science. We are also communicating over devices that would be unheard of without science. so go right ahead and pay no attention to science.

John chapter 1 verse 3
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And here you are living a life style that would be completely impossible without modern science. We are also communicating over devices that would be unheard of without science. so go right ahead and pay no attention to science.

 

[McDale]

Even the solar system experiences decay and some of the planets are further out than they used to be. Apparently. Since sin has affected the whole creation, expecting the sun moon and stars to continue to move at the same rate is kind of absurd, since in such a short time compared to 200,000 years, we have had to switch from a 360 day calendar to a 365.25 day calendar. Much like politicians blaming previous administrations for the amount of money lost without taking into account the depreciation of the value of said money ... so is the concept that we can measure with any certainty at all. There are some things we cannot know, there is a lot of faith placed on the dating methods.

 

[Blade]

Modern Science demonstrates that anatomically modern humans appeared in Ethiopia 200,000 years ago and migrated to every continent by 60,000 to 30,000 years ago. The evidence of this is:

1. fossils
2. analysis of DNA and genetics from ancient remains

I WONDER if Adam was only 6 thousands years ago. YET.. the earth? Can still be millions of years old?

 

[Tayla]

the earth? Can still be millions of years old?

The earth is 4.5 billion years old.

Adam was a farmer and had domesticated animals. This begin no sooner than 10,000 B.C.

 

[McDale]

Can't anyone understand the power of God. He is in control of everything, including time. So, when He created Adam and he was only a few minutes old, was he a baby or a man? And when He created all life were they all babies or fully grown. So when God created all of this on earth it looked like it was around for many many years, but all of it was no more than a few days old. So why couldn't He create everything else in a day but we see it as billions of years old?

 

[McDale]

Can't anyone understand the power of God. He is in control of everything, including time. So, when He created Adam and he was only a few minutes old, was he a baby or a man? And when He created all life were they all babies or fully grown. So when God created all of this on earth it looked like it was around for many many years, but all of it was no more than a few days old. So why couldn't He create everything else in a day but we see it as billions of years old?

 

[joshua 1 9]

I WONDER if Adam was only 6 thousands years ago. YET.. the earth? Can still be millions of years old?

The earth is around 4.5 billion years old. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden in the Tigris - Euphrates river valley around 6,000 years ago. There are many historical people in the Bible that are descended from them. The Bible is mostly a history book covering the last 6,000 years.