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According to the salvation losers one sin and Jesus will give you das boot outta the Kingdom. At the same time they themselves will insist they live completely sin free lives, par with Jesus. They won`t admit but by logic it is a works for salvation theology. Have to be sin free to be saved = saved by living sin free.
Interesting but makes me wonder. Does it take one sin to keep me out of heaven? I don't always ask for forgiveness after sinning, doesn't the blood of Christ still cover the sin? It feels like Christians have very different ideas of what sin is. Some say just thinking a bad thought is sinning enough to deserv damnation. From that perspective it seems impossible your view is correct.
Interesting but makes me wonder. Does it take one sin to keep me out of heaven? I don't always ask for forgiveness after sinning, doesn't the blood of Christ still cover the sin? It feels like Christians have very different ideas of what sin is. Some say just thinking a bad thought is sinning enough to deserv damnation. From that perspective it seems impossible your view is correct.
It's really pretty simple...Jesus told us exactly what we need to do. It's all in the lords prayer he taught us, the part where we are to ask "Forgive us our tresspasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"
Pray it daily, and we should be fine.
Can you please show me a quote of someone making those two claims? Actually by the sound of those posts, you should be able to show me several posters making the claim.
The Lord’s Prayer isn’t a salvational text.
The thread has way too many posts for me to go picking through and do that. But my stance has changed from being semi-nuetral seeking to learn to a more aggressive state. Next time one of you salvation losers comes out with it I`ll be sure to point it out.
Because that’s my answer that pertains to the topic, and the truth doesn’t lose.
It's really pretty simple...Jesus told us exactly what we need to do. It's all in the lords prayer he taught us, the part where we are to ask "Forgive us our tresspasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"
Pray it daily, and we should be fine.
I'm looking for something positive.That's fine, but it's not what is meant by "the Elect" or "Election."
The concept holds that some people were chosen by God to be his saved ones.
Like so many other things about this subject, we have not been given to know everything about God's ways, decisions, purposes, and so on. Nor do we know WHO is among the Elect. For those who are convinced by Scripture that this is a correct way of looking at the matter, it is sufficient to know that God has his Elect.
Yes.
Did you not read this? I have highlighted the relevant part.Romans 9
Rom 9:11-23
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad — in order that God's purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls — she was told, "The older will serve the younger." 13 Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
16 It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth.” 18 So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. 19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” 20 On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? 21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? 22 What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? 23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,
I don't think most "we can lose salvation - people" believe it is this easy to lose salvation, very few I believe.
When a believer lives a worldly life the heart is mudded up, hardened, the Holy Spirit is quenched. Since it's the Holy Spirit that gives us faith, I'm sure faith can be quenched. Paul warns us not to quench the Holy Spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:19).
Not so much one sin, there are lots including blasphemy, unbelief, rejection, ungodliness...It`s the position of a lot of them I have met in the past and it is the position of BibleHighlighter. I think it will prove to be the position of some others on this thread as well. He`s got the one sin and out view and I will start calling out on that. What you are talking about is something different. But at this point I`m not sure about you either. LOL! But you have a good attitude about things and I would enjoy challenging some of your opinions about the gospel.
It`s the position of a lot of them I have met in the past and it is the position of BibleHighlighter. I think it will prove to be the position of some others on this thread as well. He`s got the one sin and out view and I will start calling out on that. What you are talking about is something different. But at this point I`m not sure about you either. LOL! But you have a good attitude about things and I would enjoy challenging some of your opinions about the gospel.
It sounds beautiful, but at the same ritualistic. But you know, I love that prayer!Prayed it as a kid many nights for comfort, before I knew Christ.
Not buying it.
The bigger the thread, the easier they shoul be to find, and truth is, you won't find a single person who made either of those claims.
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