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Featured Want to start loving God...

Discussion in 'Christian Advice' started by KaterinaChk, Aug 27, 2018.

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  1. KaterinaChk

    KaterinaChk New Member

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    I have been thinking about myself and my life lately. I try to be a good Christian but I found out that the only thing that is refraining me from commiting very wrong acts is the fear of burning in hell forever. That's it. I can't think of myself as a good Christian anymore. I dislike to say it but my love for God is barely noticeable. Oh, and by "wrong acts" I mean EVIL acts, such as cheating people out of things, manipulating them into doing what I want, being physically cruel to animals and more. I don't know why, but I sometimes feel a sudden urge to torture animals. Even thinking about it makes my heart race. It gives me a sadistic pleasure. I have daydreams about having unlimited power and success, beating people up and more. I think of people that annoyed me years ago. Four years ago a boy pushed me and today I imagined myself doing what I was too scared to do back then (because I was at school). I mean, if he had pushed me these days, I would have beat him up so hard that he'd be lucky to be able to wake up... in the hospital.
    I hope I haven't horrified nobody.
    Long story short: if I didn't believe in God, morals wouldn't exist in my life. I'd do pretty much everything within the bounds of the law.
    What I'm trying to say is that I'd like to stop fearing the hell and start loving God...
    Thank you.
    Btw: I'm female, 18.
     
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  2. Chinchilla

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    Impossible for Christian to be burning in hell read :
    1 Corinthians 3:15 King James Version (KJV)
    15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

    a) works which were build not on Christ ( the rock ) but on sand ( like yourself for example buying yourself new TV while people are starving in your area ) these will burn up . For good ones which were build upon Christ we receive a rewards ( gold stones ect .)

    b) Christian can't burn in hell because he is saved by being justified alredy the moment he or she believed that Christ died for her/his sin . The sin was nailed to the cross therefore it does not have to be punished again nor does it matter what person does to go to heaven
    Salvation is not by keeping Law Ephesians 2:8-9 , Galatians 2:16 but by sacrifice of Christ who died as your replacement 1 Peter 1:13-14 1 John 2:2

    Let's see what Ephesians 2:8-9 means
    a) by grace meaning undeserved
    b) gift meaning not of anything you do ( not by prayer, going to church ect )
    c) nobody can boast that he/she went to heaven because Christ did it as our replacement


    The moment person believes , then he is Sealed with Holy Spirit and can fight the sin and blasphemous thoughts Ephesians 1:13-14
     
  3. KaterinaChk

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    I can't agree with you. If one murders people and never feels guilty, even though they're christian, God won't forgive them. They will still burn in hell.
     
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  4. KaterinaChk

    KaterinaChk New Member

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    If all Christian people would be saved ONLY BECAUSE THEY'RE CHRISTIAN, then why do we talk about sins? Why do we confess ? Why does God talk about sins? Why are there The Ten Commandments?
     
  5. Chinchilla

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    and why do you think that ? If you are Christian you have no sin read 1 John 3:9
    It's impossible for Christian to commit sin

    Person can know they have eternal life
    1 John 5:13-15 King James Version (KJV)
    13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

    Unless they believe in temporary life , like you perhaps do that's why you can be never sure if you have it .

    Also a lier or murderer are equally bad
    James 2:10 King James Version (KJV)
    10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
     
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  6. KaterinaChk

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    Obviously, you are living in a lie. You should ask many priests about that.
    It's illogical! It makes absolutely NO SENSE at all! Then why are there The Ten Commandments? Aren't they for Christians? Of course, they're written for them. Because a non Christian wouldn't care about them. I'm sorry, but you're totally wrong!
    Who do we confess then?
    Let's assume my name is Jane, I am a "Christian" and I am going to kill my sister for having more money than I do. After doing it, I never feel remorseful. God says MURDERERS will not be saved, no matter their religion. There are not exceptions. If the murderer confessed and feels remorseful he might be saved. That's all! So yeah. Read the Bible again.
     
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  7. Chinchilla

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    Perhaps that's what your problem is , rather than reading what the word of our creator God says you rely on what person says about what the creator God says .
    It makes perfect sense , read Hebrews 10:11-12 , Hebrews 10:5

    There is two of you if you become born again the old you born of your mom is called Flesh where the other one if is believing in the gospel is being born again of Spirit.

    The first will die , can't go to heaven the second can know only good and can never sin .
    God said you need to be born again , not that you should change , he expect you to be new creature with 0 sin at all . Adam and Eve were kicked out of garden for doing one sin , there can't be any sinner in heaven even if you are sorry about it sinners do not belong in heaven , that's why you get new resurrected body which can't sin , this one will die and root in grave .

    John 3:3 King James Version (KJV)
    3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


    You are not birthing yourself but God does the birth process , you did not give yourself birth first time but you mom did , likewise the second so stop trying .
     
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    That's not entirely true, @Chinchilla. Believers still struggle with sin.
     
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    Have you ever heard of The Tale of Two Wolves?

    http://www.nanticokeindians.org/page/tale-of-two-wolves

    How much of your life have you spent feeding the evil wolf, and starving the good wolf?

    The Bible must speak to billions of people, so I think that it’s very interesting that some are helped more by the wrath of God passages, and others by the love of God passages. And some might gravitate towards the wrath passages at one point in their lives, but then gravitate towards the love passages at a better time in their lives. I highly doubt that you wanted to torture animals at a very young & innocent age...stop feeding your evil wolf!
     
  10. KaterinaChk

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    Well. I was asking for logical answers on this site. It's obvious that you don't understand the Bible at all. You say what you would like to be true. Not what it is. Do me a favor and not answer to my posts ever again because I myself am living in a lie. I don.t want to live in a bigger one. God is the only perfect being! Not you! If you have no sin, then you are God.
    See? No sense. Bye.
     
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  11. Nicolaus Mourer

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    You're going to have to do some self-analysis and figure out where the source of your fear is stemming from. Normally, it's from something that happened in one's life that one is unable to overcome and move on from. In my experience, there are two base emotions upon which every other emotion may come from: fear, or love. A person's actions are founded in either of those two. It is apparent to me that you are very fear-driven, and not just in regards to the healthy fear of fearing the Lord, but the fear of lack of control, the fear of being vulnerable, the fear of being taken advantage of, etc.

    Once you are able to locate the source of these problems, you can (in faith) bring it to God in prayer, and ask for his grace to help you overcome them through the strength of Christ. Then, and only then, will you be able to replace the fear that is in your heart with the love that is in Jesus Christ.

    Think long and hard about it, because unless you take it to God, you can't overcome something like that; but firstly, you must be aware of what it is, and bring it to God, being willing to repent of it. You may be saved, but if you don't find out what the source is and seek to repent from it with God's help, life will continue to get worse for you.
     
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    @KaterinaChk Do you have anyone you could talk to about these feelings? They seem really demonic.
     
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  13. Chinchilla

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    Matthew 7:22-24 King James Version (KJV)

    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
     
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    What do you do if you love someone and want to love them more? You spend time with them. You get to know them better. You talk with them.

    Spend time with God. Talk with Him in prayer. Spend time reading His word. Ask Him to speak to you through it. Even if you don't understand it all, keep reading. I read a lovely true story of a man who was illiterate, and asked a lady to read the Bible to him. His brothers laughed because he couldn't remember what he had heard - "It's like pouring water into a sieve." "But the water washes the sieve clean", he replied. Even if you can't take in all you read, it will be washing your mind clean as you soak your mind in God's word.
     
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    Scripture Please....
     
  16. Fish Catcher Jim

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    Perhaps you should spend a little more time reading. Purposely or could care less. Not can never.

    No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God’s nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine sperm, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God.
     
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  17. Cturtle

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    First suggestion... Forgive all those who have wronged you.

    Second suggestion.... Read 1John everyday for at least 30 days... If you have truly received Jesus as Lord ... It's time to renew your mind to how much He loves you.. and then once you understand how much your loved.. your desires will change.

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    The Holy Spirit showed me... the blood of Jesus paid for our righteousness which equals (or should) our self-esteem... all we have to do is accept it and allow the Holy Spirit to create in us a new and right spirit. Which starts with accepting Jesus as Lord... which we have already done.... now as we choose to renew our mind with the Word/Bible... like Roman's 12:2 says... it will then transform us to be like the Word. One step at a time. Which is also what philippians 2:13 says. God is at work in us..it's nothing we can do by ourselves or in our own strength
     
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  18. Doug Melven

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    If you want to love God more, don't try to conjure up love for Him.
    But see what He has done for you.
    Go through Isaiah 53 and Psalms 22 and the the last few chapters of each Gospel and see all the pain Jesus went through for you.
    Know that you are a precious jewel that God sold everything He had to buy you. He gave His only Son for you.
    Look for other Scriptures that show how much God loves you.
    Then you will fullfill 1 John 4:19, we love Him because He first loved us.
     
  19. Nicolaus Mourer

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    That is a very strange and odd way of wording that, sir.
     
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    Animal abuse can be a red flag for other negative traits and is well-addressed in psychological literature. Your childhood might explain some of this, especially if you suffered any abuse or neglect. Burning in hell or going to jail are great responses to refraining.
    1 Timothy 1:9 (KJV) 9 "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,"
    You have to find a way to see yourself righteous in God, learning to walk by the spirit and cancelling out the evil tendencies.
    Romans 7:23-25 (NASB77) 23 "but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind, and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin."
    The battleground is your thoughts and feelings. I would ask God to order them to His will, then read the word as much as possible as you "transform by the renewing of your mind." Other things that will help you may include: Finding a Christian and perhaps a medical doctor that can help you through the dark thoughts. Going to a church that operates in the full power of God, where people are healed, delivered and often more radical in their faith.
    I do urge you to keep walking toward Christ, no matter how evil you might feel at times. Somehow through all of this, you are going to find the grace and freedom that is yours through Jesus.
     
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