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Waiting ? Any one been praying for a situation for along while ?

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It was sarcasm. The person I was replying to didn't like the idea of remaining single and solely focusing on God 24/7.

Father god was obviously wrong about "it is not good for man to be alone". Eve ruined his spiritual life and also the lives of future men who would marry her counterparts. She is fallen, domineering, unstable, and unfaithful. Man is much better off without women, but because of the very common spirit of lust, he risks being destroyed by fornication. It is better for men to marry for that reason alone. If he is spirit filled, he will subdue the desires of the flesh and resist the devil. His desire will be for God alone. Women won't interest him. Not all men are capable of this, those that aren't, SHOULD Marry a woman. But be forwarned, you will be hard pressed to find a true Sheep woman, you'll have to settle for the manipulator who wants you to fullfill HER dreams and desires. After that, she'll leave you with child support and a tent.

You said: "God is our heavenly Father, not a slave master who just wants people to focus on Him and don't do anything else."
There are so many things wrong with this statement ...please meditate on what you just said in light of the scriptures.
God wasn't wrong when He made man in His image and created him a help meet. To say otherwise is nothing short of blasphemy. I understand that you don't have good experience with women, and it's definitely *not* your fault, but that doesn't change the goodness of God's creation. By this logic, you might as well condemn every other thing that exists because it was corrupted.

And what exactly is wrong with my statement that God is our Father, and that He doesn't want us to just stare at Him and sing praises for all eternity? If He did, then there would be no reason for the resurrection, or for the new Earth and God could have just locked us all up in heaven as disembodied spirits after we die.
 
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Can you go into more detail what your desire was like before than? Did it come & go in cycles? Or was it pretty strong? Or was it never really something you thought about? Started early on? Only when you saw other people married?
My sister and I were actually discussing this, so I think I can give a clearer picture of my particular situation:

Society sort of lends young people with the expectation of marriage and family, so I would say in passing 'when I have kids', 'when I get married'; or 'I don't want a big wedding; I would rather it be small' etc. But I was never actually interested in looking, no major romantic drive on my part. Granted I have been sick with Crohn's since I was eleven, got pulled out and home-schooled at twelve, so my social life was impacted that way.

I worked for surgeon for a while and dealt with older people, so that work experience didn't gravitate towards finding a soul-mate. And I cleaned offices in the after hours when no one was around. So again, I wasn't meeting people.

When I was twenty-two and saw kids I went to school with getting married and having kids, that's when reality started to hit. My coworker had had her child and she would make remarks about me not having kids. They were probably meant innocently, but it was actually making me sort of sad and angry at her at times because I loved kids and it was during that span of time that it hit me that I would never get married or have kids. And I had to grieve that loss, because man I wanted a little boy. Take him hiking; build mud cities with him; camp in the backyard, or in the middle of the living room. Lol. And my coworker had a little boy and she just didn't help matters with comments like, "You wouldn't know how to deal with kids because you don't have kids etc."

The disease had dramatically affected my social life and I knew it would be hard for a spouse to deal with someone who can't travel and can be in and out of the hospital, maybe sick in bed. Due to the illness my finances were poor (I still live with my parents. Well, actually, I will always live with my parents. Dad did put my name on the property, and pooling our resources keeps us in a pretty successful place, financially. If I or my sister left, we'd all suffer financially. Plus I've applied for disability because the disease is just getting worse as I age) I hardly made about 12,000 for years. This year if I'm lucky it'll be 7,000. Lol. You can't take care of a family on that. I do the work I can, but there's no way I can support a family. I'd probably put myself into an early grave if I had to work 40+ hours a week. Coupled with my particular Messianic religious beliefs, I pretty much knew that my romantic life was dead in the water.

I would love to adopt, but I don't think adoption agencies would adopt out to a single parent and if I get approved for disability, that would probably kill any chances of adoption. They're gonna look for a financially stable couple first. So I've written adoption off at this point too. Hopefully my brother and his wife have a kid so I can have a nephew (or niece or both) to spend time with.

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My religious beliefs narrows potential suitors down exponentially and being a Crohn's patient takes it's toll on social life and the ability to provide for a family. Those two are probably the only reasons why I'm single, and will remain single.
 
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@RevealedTruths - Don't feed the trolls. I don't jive with men who blame Eve and all women every where for the fall. The test was on Adam, anyway, not Eve. In that regard, I will defend women to the highest. But this isn't the place to debate Eve's deception and Adam's sin. And I think you give this person way too much credit when you say his bad experience with women isn't his fault. Lol. Just from his comments here and throughout the site, I assume his bad experiences may have been warranted.

Okay let's please get back on topic.
 
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God wasn't wrong when He made man in His image and created him a help meet. To say otherwise is nothing short of blasphemy. I understand that you don't have good experience with women, and it's definitely *not* your fault, but that doesn't change the goodness of God's creation. By this logic, you might as well condemn every other thing that exists because it was corrupted.

And what exactly is wrong with my statement that God is our Father, and that He doesn't want us to just stare at Him and sing praises for all eternity? If He did, then there would be no reason for the resurrection, or for the new Earth and God could have just locked us all up in heaven as disembodied spirits after we die.
"I understand that you don't have good experience with women,"

I never discussed my marriage status or lack thereof, I also haven't spoken about being male or female. What inspired this comment? My words are biblically based and inspired by wisdom that God the Father gives me, not from having been married to a woman, or my natural mind.
 
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"I understand that you don't have good experience with women,"

I never discussed my marriage status or lack thereof, I also haven't spoken about being male or female. What inspired this comment? My words are biblically based and inspired by wisdom that God the Father gives me, not from having been married to a woman, or my natural mind.
Everyone says that God told them something, even gnostics and satanists. But if it doesn't correspond with Scripture, then it's not from God.
 
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@RevealedTruths - Don't feed the trolls. I don't jive with men who blame Eve and all women every where for the fall. The test was on Adam, anyway, not Eve. In that regard, I will defend women to the highest. But this isn't the place to debate Eve's deception and Adam's sin. And I think you give this person way too much credit when you say his bad experience with women isn't his fault. Lol. Just from his comments here and throughout the site, I assume his bad experiences may have been warranted.

Okay let's please get back on topic.
Hold it, though, let's not be a white knight. Eve was responsible for the fall, as the apostle Paul wrote, that it was Eve, not Adam, who was deceived. The fact is, that women are by nature Lawless, manipulative, selfish, demanding and cruel, much more closer to Satan than God - if they aren't taught righteousness and Godliness from the age of a little girl. The women who are taught to be Godly from youth obviously are not like this.
 
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To the original poster of this topic,
I too have been praying for peace of mind for years. I know my mental health is good, but deep down there are some things that the medication I am on cannot help me deal with. So I can understand your position and will be in prayer for you that you find peace and solace in the waiting.
 
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Hold it, though, let's not be a white knight. Eve was responsible for the fall, as the apostle Paul wrote, that it was Eve, not Adam, who was deceived. The fact is, that women are by nature Lawless, manipulative, selfish, demanding and cruel, much more closer to Satan than God - if they aren't taught righteousness and Godliness from the age of a little girl. The women who are taught to be Godly from youth obviously are not like this.
Why? That's exactly what Christ did.

Adam was the first Christ; Eve was symbolic of the church. She was deceived; deception leds to sin, but atonement can be made for this. The test was on Adam whether or not he would obey. He knew exactly what he was doing when he took of the fruit. If he didn't know the fruit came from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil then he would have been deceived and she would have sinned, but that's not the condemnation which God gave them. It specifically says Eve was deceived and Adam sinned.

Adam, had he rejected the fruit, could have made atonement for his wife for taking the fruit. The way Christ, who rejected Satan's temptations and was willing to die for his bride, has made atonement for us. Christ came in as a white knight for the church. We didn't deserve it, but because He loved us, that's what He did.

The test was on Adam whether or not He would be willing to sacrifice himself for his wife; if he was willing to mediate for his wife, which God gives husbands the power to do. When Rebekah hadn't conceived Isaac prayed for his wife and God heard him, then she had Jacob and Esau. If a woman makes a vow and her husband or father hears of it, if he disagrees, he can annul her vow before God and she will be blameless.

So, no, you're wrong. The fall is pinned ultimately on Satan, but pushing him aside, the fall is on Adam because Eve's 'sin' was from deception not outright rebellion. She could have been atoned for. Adam had to be tested just as Christ was tested in the wilderness. The serpent being subtle, did this through Eve. And Adam failed.

The problem in this world is that the men have continued to behave like Adam and blame Eve, "The woman YOU gave me." Adam blamed both Eve and God for his sin rather than taking personal responsiblity. And Adam-like men are still blaming Eve and still blaming God and are still refusing personal responsibility where they have sinned and failed. If men behave like Christ, then you will indeed have a woman who is like the bride of Christ.

Men are just as lawless, selfish, demanding and cruel. Women excel in manipulation, I'll give them that, but that's because they are the fairer sex and aren't about to throw punches the way men do. It's a different type of warfare. Men do more by raping and killing and pillaging and wife-beating.

My defense of Eve stands. If you want a godly woman, then be like Christ. Women are the way they are because of how men have treated her. And the flaws in women won't change until the men change. They need our leadership and where that leaderships fails, they'll go their own way and I really can't blame them.

I will white knight the ladies.
 
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@PrincessofGod18 - I think the remarks made by RevealedTruths and Twin_niwT should be red flags to you. If you can't find a man like Christ don't settle for a man like Adam. You're better off single. You don't need that type of crap in your life.
 
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@PrincessofGod18 - I think the remarks made by RevealedTruths and Twin_niwT should be red flags to you. If you can't find a man like Christ don't settle for a man like Adam. You're better off single. You don't need that type of crap in your life.
So how does a Christian girl determine whether a man is like Christ or not? Is she God to judge whether a man is 'like Christ'? Your advice to her is not only bad, but outright DESTRUCTIVE and it's pure disgusting Lawlessness. You're literally telling her to be self-willed and lawless. A man chooses a woman he loves to be his wife, the woman accepts his love and submits to him. These are not my words, but what the Bible says. If you deny this, it will be shown that you love Lawlessness.
 
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Why? That's exactly what Christ did.

Adam was the first Christ; Eve was symbolic of the church. She was deceived; deception leds to sin, but atonement can be made for this. The test was on Adam whether or not he would obey. He knew exactly what he was doing when he took of the fruit. If he didn't know the fruit came from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil then he would have been deceived and she would have sinned, but that's not the condemnation which God gave them. It specifically says Eve was deceived and Adam sinned.

Adam, had he rejected the fruit, could have made atonement for his wife for taking the fruit. The way Christ, who rejected Satan's temptations and was willing to die for his bride, has made atonement for us. Christ came in as a white knight for the church. We didn't deserve it, but because He loved us, that's what He did.

The test was on Adam whether or not He would be willing to sacrifice himself for his wife; if he was willing to mediate for his wife, which God gives husbands the power to do. When Rebekah hadn't conceived Isaac prayed for his wife and God heard him, then she had Jacob and Esau. If a woman makes a vow and her husband or father hears of it, if he disagrees, he can annul her vow before God and she will be blameless.

So, no, you're wrong. The fall is pinned ultimately on Satan, but pushing him aside, the fall is on Adam because Eve's 'sin' was from deception not outright rebellion. She could have been atoned for. Adam had to be tested just as Christ was tested in the wilderness. The serpent being subtle, did this through Eve. And Adam failed.

The problem in this world is that the men have continued to behave like Adam and blame Eve, "The woman YOU gave me." Adam blamed both Eve and God for his sin rather than taking personal responsiblity. And Adam-like men are still blaming Eve and still blaming God and are still refusing personal responsibility where they have sinned and failed. If men behave like Christ, then you will indeed have a woman who is like the bride of Christ.

Men are just as lawless, selfish, demanding and cruel. Women excel in manipulation, I'll give them that, but that's because they are the fairer sex and aren't about to throw punches the way men do. It's a different type of warfare. Men do more by raping and killing and pillaging and wife-beating.

My defense of Eve stands. If you want a godly woman, then be like Christ. Women are the way they are because of how men have treated her. And the flaws in women won't change until the men change. They need our leadership and where that leaderships fails, they'll go their own way and I really can't blame them.

I will white knight the ladies.
Adam was not the first Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Adam's living Soul was made out of the “breath of Life”. It is a soul every natural man possesses in his body.

While the last Adam (Christ) is a quickening Spirit (Which is the Holy Spirit).

A man can not become the “last Adam” unless he's born again of Christ's Holy Spirit, at which point he is made in God's image, like the beings in the first account of creation in Genesis.

You said: “.....If men behave like Christ, then you will indeed have a woman who is like the bride of Christ....”

If men were like Christ, they wouldn't desire women, period.

You said: "My defence of Eve stands. If you want a godly woman, then be like Christ. Women are the way they are because of how men have treated her. And the flaws in women won't change until the men change. They need our leadership and where that leaderships fails, they'll go their own way and I really can't blame them."

Women are the way they are because they are of the devil. They are rebellious and live to fulfill the desires of their Ego. They must repent and be born again of God's spirit if they want to be changed.

You said: I will white knight the ladies.

No, you don't “white knight ladies”. This sort of thinking got John the Baptist's head chopped off. Jezebel loves men like you, easily charmed. She uses men like you to get revenge on anyone who gets in her way, especially righteous men of Christ. The Bible teaches us to prefer other Sheep, not the world. I will rebuke the evil spirit of white knight on your behalf and pray that he opens your eyes because this is a very problematic sin and issue for many righteous men in the world.
 
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So how does a Christian girl determine whether a man is like Christ or not? Is she God to judge whether a man is 'like Christ'? Your advice to her is not only bad, but outright DESTRUCTIVE and it's pure disgusting Lawlessness. You're literally telling her to be self-willed and lawless. A man chooses a woman he loves to be his wife, the woman accepts his love and submits to him. These are not my words, but what the Bible says. If you deny this, it will be shown that you love Lawlessness.
She knows him by his fruits. How am I telling her to be lawless by telling her to find a man who shows he is following Christ? I'm telling her she's better off single and submissive to Christ then to a man like you.

Christ White-Knighted the Church, his Bride, and ended up crucified and you're worried about being homeless? If a woman is worldly then don't engage her. Most men who have been jaded by women did it to themselves through behavior like your own.

To whom much is given much is expected. Men were created to be the leadership and if the leadership fails, everything below that fails. Adam failed and women have suffered the consequences ever since. I don't blame them for being sick of dealing with his mistakes. If you want women to be submissive then you behave like Christ. You be kind and understanding with your wives. Be the Proverbs 31 husband no one ever talks about.

There are good men out there, Christ-like men, and then there are Adams. And you've proven you are Adam, not Christ because your self-centered as he was. You won't die for the woman, even if she's wronged you, and by that you have no love and are just as lawless. Greater love than no man has this, that he lays his life down for his friends.

I've blocked both of you. Do not reply further.
 
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Hi all,

For about 10 or 12 years now, I have been waiting and praying for my future husband, has anyone been in the same situation ?
And did you get to a situation where you pray, then trust God, and then doubt comes in and restart all over again to appoint it gets so tired.

I do have some people at church praying for me.

But surely God can see how this is effecting me and why is he making me wait ?

Anyone been in this situation ?
Never tire of praying. It is essential.
 
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