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Good question, and one I find myself asking all the time. When do lots of setbacks mean I'm barking up the wrong tree, and when is it a test of my perseverance? I guess I just KNOW. When something is wrong, I tend to get what I call my "brick wall" feeling. No matter how many times I try to accomplish something, I feel like something is physically holding me back, or like I'm mentally running into a brick wall over and over again, no matter which direction I turn. Not a foolproof method of judging whether you're acting in God's will, but it helps me.
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hmm htat is a great question... to which i wish i had a good answer. if i were in that kind of situation, i would reevaluate what i'm asking God for and then pray that he will reveal that part of his will to you. look out for God, he might be trying to tell you something 
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i remember something my pastor once said, when he cant hear gods voice, and doesnt know where to go, he trusts the lord to order his steps.
since the steps of the righteous are ordered of the lord.
when god isnt leading you, you follow the vision, when hes isnt there with you, directing you, then go where you knows hes set in your heart for you to go.
i mean, maybe he doesnt seem to be walking with you, but you know where your passion wants you to go, your vision or goal, and you press towards that.
another thing ive heard said alot is that the teacher doesnt answer questions during the test.
im not saying god is testing you in order to know you, he may be, but you are surely going through alot of trouble, and sometimes god doesnt speak to us. and we have to live off the word of god, instead of his voice sometimes.
the valley is hard and dark and so lonely, but there is an end to every valley.
one thing ive learned from the bible is that every great man or woman of god with a real vision or calling of god, goes through the wilderness, a troubled, hard, dry, lonely, dark, place.
there is a wilderness before every jericho, and there is a jericho on the other side of every wilderness.
when you cant hear god, trust him to order your steps, and just start walking toward the vision hes placed in your heart and live off the word of god, and know, on the otherside of your trouble, there is a peaceful, rich place flowing with milk and honey waiting for you.
but never stop praying, you may not be getting an answer but your prayers are carrying you. and sometimes you have to get where you were wanting you go and only then do you realise that he was with you, carrying you all along.
since the steps of the righteous are ordered of the lord.
when god isnt leading you, you follow the vision, when hes isnt there with you, directing you, then go where you knows hes set in your heart for you to go.
i mean, maybe he doesnt seem to be walking with you, but you know where your passion wants you to go, your vision or goal, and you press towards that.
another thing ive heard said alot is that the teacher doesnt answer questions during the test.
im not saying god is testing you in order to know you, he may be, but you are surely going through alot of trouble, and sometimes god doesnt speak to us. and we have to live off the word of god, instead of his voice sometimes.
the valley is hard and dark and so lonely, but there is an end to every valley.
one thing ive learned from the bible is that every great man or woman of god with a real vision or calling of god, goes through the wilderness, a troubled, hard, dry, lonely, dark, place.
there is a wilderness before every jericho, and there is a jericho on the other side of every wilderness.
when you cant hear god, trust him to order your steps, and just start walking toward the vision hes placed in your heart and live off the word of god, and know, on the otherside of your trouble, there is a peaceful, rich place flowing with milk and honey waiting for you.
but never stop praying, you may not be getting an answer but your prayers are carrying you. and sometimes you have to get where you were wanting you go and only then do you realise that he was with you, carrying you all along.
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does it?
well the vision the desire in your heart, surely cant be to find a dead end road. and i do not beleive that it leads to one either.
it may look like one, but if your vision is from god, then there is a way, somewhere somehow. god will never lead you to a place of no hope, if god has put that desire in you, then he has predestined a pathway for you.
a man once said to me something that shocked me and ill never forget it.
"theres always a ram in the bushes"
refering to the story of abraham.
dont lose hope, stay in prayer and trust in the lord, god will provide, or make a way.
this thought comes to me,
the people had followed jesus into the wilderness, and did not have enough food to eat, and could not make it back to town to buy more without fainting, it was a place of no hope, there was nothing for them there. there was nothing they could do, nothing.
they were out there, and all they had was a hope in the man they had followed, jesus.
and one thing jesus said stuck with me when i first read it for myself, he told them to "sit down" and if you read thru the other gospels, on all the accounts where he multiplied food, he told them to "sit down". and then god did a miracle, in the middle of what looked like their dead end road. but they had to sit down and wait and trust.
when you get to the end of your road, and there is absolutely nothing you can do, all you have is faith, and if god doesnt do something, then its over for you and your vision.
i beleive god is saying to us in those times, "sit down"
you have done all you could, and god will sometimes wait untill you are their to do a work so you dont look over it or not appreciate it.
sit down, and let god make a way.
it reminds me of a psalm i once read.
ps 124.1-2
IF IT HAD NOT BEEN THE LORD, who was on our side, now may isreal say,
IF IT HAD NOT BEEN THE LORD, who was on our side, when men rose up against us.
if you can complete your vision by yourself, then it isnt from god.
but god will lead you into a place where you see nothing at all, and god seems to be taking you no-where, but dont lose hope, he will move and you will say "if it had not been for god!...."
he may lead to some dead end looking roads, like the isrealites up agaisnt the red sea, but no matter what, if thats where god lead you, thats where he wants you, and he will make a way.
sometimes you have to sit down, and wait on the lord to provide a ram in the bushes.
well the vision the desire in your heart, surely cant be to find a dead end road. and i do not beleive that it leads to one either.
it may look like one, but if your vision is from god, then there is a way, somewhere somehow. god will never lead you to a place of no hope, if god has put that desire in you, then he has predestined a pathway for you.
a man once said to me something that shocked me and ill never forget it.
"theres always a ram in the bushes"
refering to the story of abraham.
dont lose hope, stay in prayer and trust in the lord, god will provide, or make a way.
this thought comes to me,
the people had followed jesus into the wilderness, and did not have enough food to eat, and could not make it back to town to buy more without fainting, it was a place of no hope, there was nothing for them there. there was nothing they could do, nothing.
they were out there, and all they had was a hope in the man they had followed, jesus.
and one thing jesus said stuck with me when i first read it for myself, he told them to "sit down" and if you read thru the other gospels, on all the accounts where he multiplied food, he told them to "sit down". and then god did a miracle, in the middle of what looked like their dead end road. but they had to sit down and wait and trust.
when you get to the end of your road, and there is absolutely nothing you can do, all you have is faith, and if god doesnt do something, then its over for you and your vision.
i beleive god is saying to us in those times, "sit down"
you have done all you could, and god will sometimes wait untill you are their to do a work so you dont look over it or not appreciate it.
sit down, and let god make a way.
it reminds me of a psalm i once read.
ps 124.1-2
IF IT HAD NOT BEEN THE LORD, who was on our side, now may isreal say,
IF IT HAD NOT BEEN THE LORD, who was on our side, when men rose up against us.
if you can complete your vision by yourself, then it isnt from god.
but god will lead you into a place where you see nothing at all, and god seems to be taking you no-where, but dont lose hope, he will move and you will say "if it had not been for god!...."
he may lead to some dead end looking roads, like the isrealites up agaisnt the red sea, but no matter what, if thats where god lead you, thats where he wants you, and he will make a way.
sometimes you have to sit down, and wait on the lord to provide a ram in the bushes.
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Just wanted to bump this one back up...lots of good questions have been brought up in this thread, and I think it can still be of help to lots of people!
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sorry, i was gone for a week in new york city.
well, then you ask god for guindance, acknowledge him and he will direct your paths, if you ever need wisdom, ask and hell give it liberally. thats what the bible says.
........can you tell me whats going on?
i mean, what could be causing this much confusion?
well, then you ask god for guindance, acknowledge him and he will direct your paths, if you ever need wisdom, ask and hell give it liberally. thats what the bible says.
........can you tell me whats going on?
i mean, what could be causing this much confusion?
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