Voting machines installed new in 2020 causing errors

[Jamsie]

To be honest you two are very suspicious. There is evidence which I have posted. Which others have pointed out towards my original articles. Even Georgia is trying to save face for their '100% statewide newly installed in 2020 Dominion Voting Systems'. They already admitted there was a problem in Antrim County, Michigan.

The problem in Antrim county was corrected - Antrim County Election Results Corrected After Issue Skewed Initial Results - 9 & 10 News

 

[ChristianK]

The problem in Antrim county was corrected - Antrim County Election Results Corrected After Issue Skewed Initial Results - 9 & 10 News

The problem in Antrim county was only corrected, because the results were suspicious. If the results had been less suspicious, nobody would have noticed. How many other counties has this happened in that slipped by manual inspection? Well they are protesting another Dominion Voting Systems result as we speak in Maricopa county, AZ. The county thats been red for half a century.

 

[Jamsie]

What Is an Ad Hominem Fallacy?

I would agree with you however, Mr. Guiliani has been shown time and time again to be without credibility. Myriad news stories detail his lies, distortions, and fabrications... so anything he says should be unflinchingly questioned... perhaps there are times when a person's character and credibility is justified ...

 

[Jamsie]

The problem in Antrim county was only corrected, because the results were suspicious. If the results had been less suspicious, nobody would have noticed. How many other counties has this happened in that slipped by manual inspection? Well they are protesting another Dominion Voting Systems result as we speak in Maricopa county, AZ. The county thats been red for half a century.

An error happened in VA by a clerical mistake I believe and was quickly corrected. It isn't as if there is no oversight... that is how fraud, errors, or mistakes are found. It isn't as if there are no people ensuring that the system is legit... Again, claims have been made about massive voter fraud which after investigation fails to be true.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Then you clearly aren't reading the contents of the links.
Here, as an example, is part of the content of the one concerning what happened in Michigan:

"LANSING — A failure to properly update software was the reason for a computer glitch that caused massive errors in unofficial election results reported from Antrim county, the Michigan Department of State said late Friday."

See that? It was the Michigan Department of State, not just "people who claim they saw or heard something."

"unofficial election results" the operating phrase in your post.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Because Republicans were barred (illegally) from those polls


You aren't?

Not according to the election commission running the polls. The republicans in those states say that they had observers inside watching the polling and ballot counting.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Because Republicans were barred (illegally) from those polls


You aren't?

Nope, going by the officials of the state election commission, who is in charge of running elections for their state.

Just in case you want a source here's one ;


Pennsylvania Election Chief Refutes Trump’s Claim That Nine ‘Discarded’ Ballots Were Election Fraud

 

[ChristianK]

An error happened in VA by a clerical mistake I believe and was quickly corrected. It isn't as if there is no oversight... that is how fraud, errors, or mistakes are found. It isn't as if there are no people ensuring that the system is legit... Again, claims have been made about massive voter fraud which after investigation fails to be true.

That is incorrect.
The error happened in MI.
The error was claimed to be a clerical mistake.
For the error to have been caused by leaving out a single election is absurd. That is not how a database works. In fact for a database to work as the spokesperson claimed, the programmer would have to have written something suspiciously complex.

 

[Jamsie]

That is incorrect.
The error happened in MI.
The error was claimed to be a clerical mistake.
For the error to have been caused by leaving out a single election is absurd. That is not how a database works. In fact for a database to work as the spokesperson claimed, the programmer would have to have written something suspiciously complex.

I know it was MI...and it was corrected! There was an error in VA, which I pointed out also, and it was corrected! The point being made is that errors are found and corrected... again...and again, the situation was fixed and corrected - here is another article: Michigan: Failure updating software caused Antrim County vote glitch



































the situation

 

[Erik Nelson]

Not according to the election commission running the polls. The republicans in those states say that they had observers inside watching the polling and ballot counting.

Philadelphia Election Center Refuses to Let Trump Officials Watch Vote Counting Despite Court Order

 

[ChristianK]

I know it was MI...and it was corrected! There was an error in VA, which I pointed out also, and it was corrected! The point being made is that errors are found and corrected... again...and again, the situation was fixed and corrected - here is another article: Michigan: Failure updating software caused Antrim County vote glitch
the situation

They were "corrected" how exactly? Do you know of the process used to "correct" and verify the "correctness"? I highly doubt you know what went on in either case, so why bother trying to fool anyone? Perhaps someone telling you that an error was "corrected" is enough to assuage your skepticism.

Now tell me why you think a Dominion Voting System that has been proven to incorrectly give Biden votes, wouldn't do the same in the rest of the country?
Do you believe that identical systems behave differently because they are moved from one county to another?

 

[hedrick]

They were "corrected" how exactly? Do you know of the process used to "correct" and verify the "correctness"? I highly doubt you know what went on in either case, so why bother trying to fool anyone? Perhaps someone telling you that an error was "corrected" is enough to assuage your skepticism.

Now tell me why you think a Dominion Voting System that has been proven to incorrectly give Biden votes, wouldn't do the same in the rest of the country?
Do you believe that identical systems behave differently because they are moved from one county to another?

If you read the article, there was no problem with the voting machines. When they went to add the totals from several areas, there was an error in that program that caused some votes to be credited to the wrong person. They fixed the error and ran it again. They still had the data from each area, so they can add them up as many times as you like. If the voting machines had malfunctioned it could have been harder to recover. If you read the article you’ll see the error described in more detail. As an IT guy, I recognize what happened.

 

[Jamsie]

They were "corrected" how exactly? Do you know of the process used to "correct" and verify the "correctness"? I highly doubt you know what went on in either case, so why bother trying to fool anyone? Perhaps someone telling you that an error was "corrected" is enough to assuage your skepticism.

Now tell me why you think a Dominion Voting System that has been proven to incorrectly give Biden votes, wouldn't do the same in the rest of the country?
Do you believe that identical systems behave differently because they are moved from one county to another?

The information is in the article, certainly you can dismiss it if it doesn't fit your bias ... though it might behoove you to read it! As with you, "I highly doubt you know what went on in either case, so why bother trying to fool anyone"! It has been explained... but I suppose that you know more than the U-M professor of computer science and engineering who specializes in voting systems and securities.

 

[Jamsie]

Philadelphia Election Center Refuses to Let Trump Officials Watch Vote Counting Despite Court Order

We fact-checked Trump’s claims of election fraud in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania

 

[hedrick]

Let me explain about voting machines. They have to be programmed twice. The first time is the basic program that comes from the factory. The second is additional setup for each race. Each area has different candidates. You have to set up the machine to have the right candidates, with the right party affiliation. This setup must be more complicated than you’d expect, because of the example the Washington Post showed where if you touch the screen for one candidate it registered for the one below.

So the output of this process is a bunch of counts of votes. But when you go to add up votes for Biden and Trump across the state, you’re not just adding one number for each area. What you’ve got is a whole bunch of numbers, one for each candidate. And the candidates are different, because different places have school board elections, state representatives, etc.

So the data for each area has to be aligned so that when you want totals for Biden and Trump you get Biden and Trump from every area. Biden isn’t the third row in every area. He’s the third row in one area and the fifth row in a different one. If you get that alignment wrong, Biden in one area gets added to Trump in another area.

That’s what happened.

When they realized it, they fixed the setup so Biden and Trump aligned correctly across all areas and ran the program again.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Philadelphia Election Center Refuses to Let Trump Officials Watch Vote Counting Despite Court Order

Campaign officials on either side are not allowed in. Those of the GOP and Democratic Party for the state who are authorized by the State Election Commission are. There is a difference between those authorized and those who are not.

Trump is blowing the winds of descent and division rather than accepting the results.

 

[Yekcidmij]

No matter what, the most fervent supporters of Trump will not accept that he lost the vote outright - it had to be stolen, cheated away from him. It was voting machines everywhere, dead people, people from out of state, ballot drives, main stream media, social media, etc..

Also, in 2016, no matter what, the most fervent supporters of the left did not accept the result. It was a Russian conspiracy, cyber hacks, social media manipulation, etc..

I mean, is anyone really surprised by all of this? From where I sit, the radicals in the parties will only ever believe that when their side wins it's legitimate, and when the other side "wins" that it's illegitimate for some reason that they will be sure to come up with; it will be sufficiently vague, unprovable, and probably conspiratorial. They will only ever be satisfied with methods and processes when it's to their favor and gain; anything else will be illegitimate. If we were able to peer into an alternate world where the situation and roles today were reversed, you could bet your dollar that the the each side would be doing what their opponent is currently doing.

Moderates and rational people of all stripes should just ignore the noise and unrealistic expectations from partisan radicals.

 

[Aldebaran]

The problem in Antrim county was only corrected, because the results were suspicious. If the results had been less suspicious, nobody would have noticed. How many other counties has this happened in that slipped by manual inspection? Well they are protesting another Dominion Voting Systems result as we speak in Maricopa county, AZ. The county thats been red for half a century.

Will the problem be corrected for the other counties in Michigan, or any of the 33 states that rely on the same system?

 

[Aldebaran]

"unofficial election results" the operating phrase in your post.

That was the time to correct the problem--before they became official.
BTW, Biden isn't officially the president elect until December 8th, but that doesn't seem to matter. In the meantime, the unofficial results need to be corrected before then. Trying to run out the clock while ignoring there is even a problem with the election results is not much of a game plan, especially long-term.

 

[Aldebaran]

They were "corrected" how exactly? Do you know of the process used to "correct" and verify the "correctness"? I highly doubt you know what went on in either case, so why bother trying to fool anyone? Perhaps someone telling you that an error was "corrected" is enough to assuage your skepticism.

Now tell me why you think a Dominion Voting System that has been proven to incorrectly give Biden votes, wouldn't do the same in the rest of the country?
Do you believe that identical systems behave differently because they are moved from one county to another?

People forget that this system is actually used in 33 states. Michigan may be only the tip of the iceberg. Dominion Voting Systems - Wikipedia