Voting by Mail?

[KCfromNC]

Unfortunately, neither McDonalds, Kinko's, nor the bank's copiers have the proper dpi/resolution to be acceptable in your district, so I'm afraid we cannot accept the copies submitted.

Needs a bit more helpful-sounding but actually useless info on ways to work around the arbitrary decision. "If you'd have just done X vs Y maybe it would have been OK", where X and Y change each time a new copy is submitted, for example.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Needs a bit more helpful-sounding but actually useless info on ways to work around the arbitrary decision. "If you'd have just done X vs Y maybe it would have been OK", where X and Y change each time a new copy is submitted, for example.

Well, all that will be explained once the alleged voter completes form D7-BC12 in triplicate... once it gets duly processed by your local elections board, you should receive a response within 30 business days.

 

[KCfromNC]

Well, all that will be explained once the alleged voter completes form D7-BC12 in triplicate... once it gets duly processed by your local elections board, you should receive a response within 30 business days.

As long as there's a labyrinth-like phone system to work through to figure out why that response never arrived, I'll allow it.

 

[TLK Valentine]

As long as there's a labyrinth-like phone system to work through to figure out why that response never arrived, I'll allow it.

Oh, but of course...

"To change your voter registration to Republican, please press '1.'"
"Para continuar en español... estás bromeando, ¿verdad?"

 

[Always in His Presence]

John doesn't have a car.
John doesn't have public transportation.
John doesn't have internet.

How does John get a FREE photocopy of their Registration to send in?

How does John get food?
How does John go to church?
How does John bury cigarettes or beer?

who is this John who never leaves his home?

 

[TLK Valentine]

How does John get food?
How does John go to church?
How does John bury cigarettes or beer?

who is this John who never leaves his home?

Clearly nobody you need concern yourself with...

 

[Albion]

How does John get food?
How does John go to church?
How does John bury cigarettes or beer?

who is this John who never leaves his home?

Very true. The limits to which people who are opposed to election integrity will go in order to argue that it's impossible for voters to do what they already are doing is amazing.

However, the photocopy issue may be misplaced since no one in government (to my knowledge) has recommended this course of action.

What has been proposed by Republican state legislators (and immediately shot down by the other party) is for the state governments to furnish ID's free of charge to every voter who cannot afford one and doesn't have a photo ID of any sort at present. How the opponents can be incensed by that approach, as the opponents indeed are, is hard to appreciate.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Clearly nobody you need concern yourself with...

Clearly sarcasm is the last tool available.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Very true. The limits to which people who are opposed to election integrity will go in order to argue that it's impossible for voters to do what they already are doing is amazing.

However, the photocopy issue may be misplaced since no one in government (to my knowledge) has recommended this course of action.

What has been proposed by Republican state legislators (and immediately shot down by the other party) is for the state governments to furnish ID's free of charge to every voter who cannot afford one and doesn't have a photo ID of any sort at present. How the opponents can be incensed by that approach, as the opponents indeed are, is hard to appreciate.

Perhaps is we offered Elections Services free of charge -

- Free Federal ID
- Paid Holiday, regardless if they are employed or not.
- A chauffeured ride to and from the post office or polling place
- Breakfast, lunch and dinner for the family on election day
- Free childcare for the day the person is filling out his/her/ ballot
- Free photocopy service so they can maintain a record.
- Free postage (that cost more than a photocopy)​

Then we have to protect their privacy and not single them out so we can do that for all 180,000,000 voters.

Wanna bet - that would not be enough either?

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

How does John get food?
How does John go to church?
How does John bury cigarettes or beer?

who is this John who never leaves his home?

He gets it delivered by a charity or a meals on wheels affiliate.
He doesn't go to church unless occasionally someone picks him up, but due to his social isolation this is rare.
UPS and the local pizza parlor will deliver at some cost.
Yes these people exist, more than you seem to think, I am limited by HIPAA from telling you more about these people, but they exist and they have the same right to vote as you or I. Your entire argument seems to be that if you can't do the things that you do easily, then you don't deserve to vote which is exactly what the voting rights laws are designed to protect against.
I think you need to go back and reanalyze what you are actually trying to say because so far you are just coming across as a bigot who doesn't like anybody but people just like you.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

Very true. The limits to which people who are opposed to election integrity will go in order to argue that it's impossible for voters to do what they already are doing is amazing.

However, the photocopy issue may be misplaced since no one in government (to my knowledge) has recommended this course of action.

What has been proposed by Republican state legislators (and immediately shot down by the other party) is for the state governments to furnish ID's free of charge to every voter who cannot afford one and doesn't have a photo ID of any sort at present. How the opponents can be incensed by that approach, as the opponents indeed are, is hard to appreciate.

What you need to do and what you have failed to do so spectacularly is to demonstrate any need for these measures you propose. All of them place some burden and so they must be offset by some real harm. Neither you or any of your likeminded friends have done this as yet as all you have are assertions that haven't held up to scrutiny.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

Perhaps is we offered Elections Services free of charge -

- Free Federal ID
- Paid Holiday, regardless if they are employed or not.
- A chauffeured ride to and from the post office or polling place
- Breakfast, lunch and dinner for the family on election day
- Free childcare for the day the person is filling out his/her/ ballot
- Free photocopy service so they can maintain a record.
- Free postage (that cost more than a photocopy)​

Then we have to protect their privacy and not single them out so we can do that for all 180,000,000 voters.

Wanna bet - that would not be enough either?

Hey, now there are some proposals that would actually deal with the inequalities for some people in being able to vote. We might need to do a little negotiation, but it is not an unreasonable starting point.

 

[Always in His Presence]

He gets it delivered by a charity or a meals on wheels affiliate.
He doesn't go to church unless occasionally someone picks him up, but due to his social isolation this is rare.
UPS and the local pizza parlor will deliver at some cost.
Yes these people exist, more than you seem to think, I am limited by HIPAA from telling you more about these people, but they exist and they have the same right to vote as you or I. Your entire argument seems to be that if you can't do the things that you do easily, then you don't deserve to vote which is exactly what the voting rights laws are designed to protect against.
I think you need to go back and reanalyze what you are actually trying to say because so far you are just coming across as a bigot who doesn't like anybody but people just like you.

I don't believe a word you say.

 

[JustOneWay]

I don't believe a word you say.

Funny, I think the very same about you! And Trump too!

 

[Always in His Presence]

The simple truth of the matter is that the Democrats are attempting to Federalize elections, plain and simple. First they wanted to eliminate the Electoral College - failed - then they wanted to pack the Supreme Court - failed and now they want to eliminate the filibuster (that they supported and used hundreds of times over the last administration) so they can take the power away from the states -

 

[Always in His Presence]

Funny, I think the very same about you!

Congrats! First post in a long time that you didn't mention Trump! I knew you could do it! I am very proud of you.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I don't believe a word you say.

Remember that line, and you'll make an outstanding GOP poll watcher.

 

[Albion]

If those judges agree there’s a discrepancy in the signature, the ballot gets rejected.

If just one of the judges believes the signature is really that of the voter, the ballot is accepted. Electronic verification machines also may be used, by law.

It's good to know that such reasonable measures are in place in some state(s).

But then, what is the reason for people to support policies in other states which allow these signatures not to be checked...or of making the policy be to accept ballots that come with no signature at all??

It would seem reasonable to want to strengthen such procedures in order to have voting integrity, but states with Democratic-controlled legislatures or a Democratic governor have refused all such reforms when they've been proposed.

 

[Hank77]

Signatures changes over time. like mine. I sign quicker and looser over time

And?....

 

[Hank77]

It would seem reasonable to want to strengthen such procedures in order to have voting integrity, but states with Democratic-controlled legislatures or a Democratic governor have refused all such reforms when they've been proposed.

Colorado began mail-in voting for everyone in 2013. We have had a Democratic governor since 2008. The HoR has been controlled by the Democrats since the 2012 election. The Senate - D in 2012, R in 14 and 16, D in 19 and 20.

Colorado is 1/3 R, 1/3 D, and 1/3 Unaffiliated voters that can and do vote either way and often by the individual candidate's platform so both R and D are fighting for those votes.
For this reason, I think we have more moderate Dems. than are found in many states.

It's only been in the last election that I remember seeing radical candidates.
In 2016 Republicans in this state didn't vote for Trump in the primary, they chose Cruz.