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IamAdopted

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Jesus ascended into Hell for three days therefore splitting himself from the Father and His sight. As we know those that are in Hell are totally severed from God. So if Jesus ascended there then He severed himself from His Father..... Also your theory would also make his sacrifice for us really null and void if there was nothing to really lose to begin with. Is the concept that both God and Man or the GodMan of Christ was so separated from his Father hard to understand?

And that did not totally address my post because I have just offered proof that God is the God of the Living not the Dead.... how do we become the living, by accepting Christ..... So you are saying in your prior posts that those that have died in the Lord are abandoned by the Lord when Christ Himself is saying that God does not abandon those that believe in Him.
I never once said that He was not the God of the living. For this He is indeed. But the saints are dead to us. :) They no longer walk the earth. You say that when Jesus went and took the keys of death and hades that Gods Spirit was not with Him?

Psa 139:2 You know when I sit down and when I rise up; You understand my thought from afar.
Psa 139:3 You scrutinize my path and my lying down, And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.
Psa 139:4 Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O LORD, You know it all.
Psa 139:5 You have enclosed me behind and before, And laid Your hand upon me.
Psa 139:6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; It is too high, I cannot attain to it.
Psa 139:7 Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence?
Psa 139:8 If I ascend to heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there.
Psa 139:9 If I take the wings of the dawn, If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea,
Psa 139:10 Even there Your hand will lead me, And Your right hand will lay hold of me.
Psa 139:11 If I say, "Surely the darkness will overwhelm me, And the light around me will be night,"
Psa 139:12 Even the darkness is not dark to You, And the night is as bright as the day. Darkness and light are alike to You.
 
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Is Christ dead to you ? He no longer walks the earth, yet He is fully man/
Awe but He lives in Us through the Holy Spirit. :) We can't say this of the saints. For they are not Christ but created human beings that were saved by Gods grace. That is why we have Gods written word and His spirit for they testify of each other.
 
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Awe but He lives in Us through the Holy Spirit. :) We can't say this of the saints. For they are not Christ but created human beings that were saved by Gods grace. That is why we have Gods written word and His spirit for they testify of each other.
Christ is the risen and forever savior of the World and He has promised to never leave us nor forsake us and tells us that if two or three are gathered in His name there HE is in the midst of us.
 
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Here is some scripture that is so good.
sa 42:1 "Behold, My Servant, whom I uphold; My chosen one in whom My soul delights. I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the nations.
Isa 42:2 "He will not cry out or raise His voice, Nor make His voice heard in the street.
Isa 42:3 "A bruised reed He will not break And a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish; He will faithfully bring forth justice.
Isa 42:4 "He will not be disheartened or crushed Until He has established justice in the earth; And the coastlands will wait expectantly for His law."
Isa 42:5 Thus says God the LORD, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread out the earth and its offspring, Who gives breath to the people on it And spirit to those who walk in it,
Isa 42:6 "I am the LORD, I have called You in righteousness, I will also hold You by the hand and watch over You, And I will appoint You as a covenant to the people, As a light to the nations,
Isa 42:7 To open blind eyes, To bring out prisoners from the dungeon And those who dwell in darkness from the prison.
Isa 42:8 "I am the LORD, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.
Isa 42:9 "Behold, the former things have come to pass, Now I declare new things; Before they spring forth I proclaim them to you."
Isa 42:10 Sing to the LORD a new song, Sing His praise from the end of the earth! You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it. You islands, and those who dwell on them.
Isa 42:11 Let the wilderness and its cities lift up their voices, The settlements where Kedar inhabits. Let the inhabitants of Sela sing aloud, Let them shout for joy from the tops of the mountains.
Isa 42:12 Let them give glory to the LORD And declare His praise in the coastlands.
Isa 42:13 The LORD will go forth like a warrior, He will arouse His zeal like a man of war. He will utter a shout, yes, He will raise a war cry. He will prevail against His enemies.
Isa 42:14 "I have kept silent for a long time, I have kept still and restrained Myself. Now like a woman in labor I will groan, I will both gasp and pant.
Isa 42:15 "I will lay waste the mountains and hills And wither all their vegetation; I will make the rivers into coastlands And dry up the ponds.
Isa 42:16 "I will lead the blind by a way they do not know, In paths they do not know I will guide them. I will make darkness into light before them And rugged places into plains. These are the things I will do, And I will not leave them undone."
Isa 42:17 They will be turned back and be utterly put to shame, Who trust in idols, Who say to molten images, "You are our gods."
Isa 42:18 Hear, you deaf! And look, you blind, that you may see.
Isa 42:19 Who is blind but My servant, Or so deaf as My messenger whom I send? Who is so blind as he that is at peace with Me, Or so blind as the servant of the LORD?
Isa 42:20 You have seen many things, but you do not observe them; Your ears are open, but none hears.
Isa 42:21 The LORD was pleased for His righteousness' sake To make the law great and glorious.
Isa 42:22 But this is a people plundered and despoiled; All of them are trapped in caves, Or are hidden away in prisons; They have become a prey with none to deliver them, And a spoil, with none to say, "Give them back!"
Isa 42:23 Who among you will give ear to this? Who will give heed and listen hereafter?
Isa 42:24 Who gave Jacob up for spoil, and Israel to plunderers? Was it not the LORD, against whom we have sinned, And in whose ways they were not willing to walk, And whose law they did not obey?
Isa 42:25 So He poured out on him the heat of His anger And the fierceness of battle; And it set him aflame all around, Yet he did not recognize it; And it burned him, but he paid no attention
 
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"I am the LORD, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.

That's great, but since we do not give glory or praise due only to God to icons, I fail to see your point.
 
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Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;


Jhn 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Jhn 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


Jhn 14:19 ¶ Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.


Jhn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I [am] in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.





Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.


Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,





Eph 4:7 ¶ But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.


Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.





Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.


Act 1:9 ¶ And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.


Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;


Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

...yup, looks that way, Jesus is in Heaven.
 
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I must say it's always funny when people would rather embrace outright heresy rather than suggest that a Catholic or Eastern Orthodox belief might be possibly true.
You have alot to say to us but nothing to put into the debate. Where is your evidence of heresy that you accuse of?
 
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