Veins look like occult symbols

[timewerx]

What religion is timewrx using ? It is totally opposed to the gospel.
i.e. timewrx posts are all false teachings.

The one in the Bible.

I simply refuse to believe interpretations in Christianity that doesn't manifest in reality

I believe in miracles because I've seen it happen in reality.

I believe the president is alive because he is alive in reality.

If someone tells me the president is dead, I know for sure that person is either deceived or lying because it isn't true the president is dead in reality.

Prove me wrong with sound arguments and with Biblical passages instead of quickly jumping to conclusions - That is what Jesus and His followers would have done. Are you a follower of Jesus?

 

[Aaron112]

The one in the Bible.

Not forgetting the very serious warning from Jesus to the best Bible Scholars: "Ye search the Scripture (The Bible) thinking that in them you will find life....." , while ignoring Jesus.

 

[Michie]

The reason those veins became visible is I'm not eating enough food due to poor finances this year. Finances in terrible shape for the last couple years but last year (2024) and this year is the worst.

I'm significantly underweight now and sometimes too weak to work which is further hurting our finances. I just hope this doesn't kill my thread. I've been noticing for a while now, when I start talking about the dire situation of our life, people stop responding to my posts. I find it weird in a Christian forum.

I’m very sorry. Prayers for you and your loved ones.

 

[Strong in Him]

It's a false teaching.

It's a Biblical teaching.
"ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God", Romans 3:23.
"There is no one who does good, not even one...... ..there is no one who seeks God", Psalm 14:3
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith .... not by works so that no one can boast", Ephesians 2:8-9.

 

[timewerx]

I’m very sorry. Prayers for you and your loved ones.

Thank you so much for the prayers!

 

[timewerx]

It's a Biblical teaching.
"ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God", Romans 3:23.
"There is no one who does good, not even one...... ..there is no one who seeks God", Psalm 14:3
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith .... not by works so that no one can boast", Ephesians 2:8-9.

Context is everything.

Paul "tailored" his teachings according to the culture of his audiences (1 Corinthians 9:19-23). Do you belong to any of those ~40 AD Roman Empire subcultures?

"ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God", Romans 3:23.
"There is no one who does good, not even one...... ..there is no one who seeks God", Psalm 14:3

Was David able to meet every living person on the whole planet during his time to make his conclusion accurate for literally ALL people on the planet living during David's time?

I seriously doubt that. At best, David is only speaking about the people living in the Middle East which is the "melting pot" of the world's major civilizations at the time. When large numbers of people from different cultures are living together, there's huge incentive/temptation to sin and commit evil. That's not always the case everywhere else in the world in those times.

It's about the same thing for Apostle Paul but includes more people like the whole of the Roman Empire in addition to the Middle East and Asian regions.

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith .... not by works so that no one can boast", Ephesians 2:8-9.

True. However, salvation will bear fruits (John 14:12)



"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness," - 2 Timothy 3:16

But in the wrong context, it does more harm than good. An injustice to the innocent.

 

[David Lamb]

Context is everything.

Paul "tailored" his teachings according to the culture of his audiences (1 Corinthians 9:19-23). Do you belong to any of those ~40 AD Roman Empire subcultures?


Was David able to meet every living person on the whole planet during his time to make his conclusion accurate for literally ALL people on the planet living during David's time?

I seriously doubt that. At best, David is only speaking about the people living in the Middle East which is the "melting pot" of the world's major civilizations at the time. When large numbers of people from different cultures are living together, there's huge incentive/temptation to sin and commit evil. That's not always the case everywhere else in the world in those times.

It's about the same thing for Apostle Paul but includes more people like the whole of the Roman Empire in addition to the Middle East and Asian regions.


True. However, salvation will bear fruits (John 14:12)



"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness," - 2 Timothy 3:16

But in the wrong context, it does more harm than good. An injustice to the innocent.

Is anybody able, every moment of their lives, to do what Jesus says in this verse:

“‘And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment.” (Mr 12:30 NKJV)

Jesus calls that the first commandment. Do you claim to be able to keep it? Loving God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind and all your strength? Have you ever heard of anybody who has kept it every moment of their lives? If it were possible for us to be saved by keeping the commandments, Peter wouldn't have preached:

“"This (Jesus Christ) is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."” (Ac 4:11-12 NKJV)

If there were some people who had perfectly kept God's commandments, he'd have had to say something like, "If you need saving, if you haven't managed to keep God's commandments perfectly, then there is nobody apart from Jesus who can save you." But he didn't say that. Nor did any of the apostles in their preaching.

 

[timewerx]

no.

If you think that context is not needed in understanding scriptures, then there is a problem.

 

[David Lamb]

If you think that context is not needed in understanding scriptures, then there is a problem.

Of course we must use context to understand the bible correctly, but no amount of applying context can make the bible say that anybody has enough of their own obedience to God's commands not to need the salvation Jesus came to bring by His death on the cross. The apostle Paul said:

“not having my own righteousness, which [is] from the law, but that which [is] through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;” (Php 3:9 NKJV)

 

[timewerx]

Of course we must use context to understand the bible correctly, but no amount of applying context can make the bible say that anybody has enough of their own obedience to God's commands not to need the salvation Jesus came to bring by His death on the cross. The apostle Paul said:

“not having my own righteousness, which [is] from the law, but that which [is] through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;” (Php 3:9 NKJV)

Jesus came for the lost yet He did not say all people are lost.

He certainly did not offer salvation to John the Baptist even if John the Baptist did not know Christ's birthname and died never knowing His birthname.

The word used for "name" in Greek (original translations of the New Testament teachings) doesn't only mean birth name but can also be "cause".

The vast majority of Christians assume that believing in the "name" of Jesus meant believing in His birthname which would mean John the Baptist died unsaved which is definitely NOT the case.

John definitely worked for the Lord's "cause" and therefore believed in His "cause" (in context but translated in English as "name")

There are many good and selfless people around world working for the Lord's "cause" without knowing His birthname and many aren't even Christians.

The Lord's cause can be summed up to the first two commandments. People who never heard about Christianity nor the Bible can end up doing the Lord's cause by simply loving others as themselves especially people who are poor (Matthew 25:40).

It's entirely possible for people in isolated communities to be saved in spite of lazy, greedy, pleasure-seeking Christians not doing enough to help spread the Gospel to the world. It would be a huge injustice that God would send good and selfless people to hell because His selfish, greedy, worldly, pleasure-loving followers can't be bothered to break a leg from their comfortable lives.

"name" in Greek:
ὄνομα - onoma

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. word
Definition
a name, authority, cause

Strong's Greek: 3686. ὄνομα (onoma) -- Name

 

[Strong in Him]

But in the wrong context, it does more harm than good. An injustice to the innocent.

The Gospel is that sin came into the world through Adam, Romans 5:12-21 and that as a result, mankind is separated from God.
Eventually, Jesus came to offer his life for the sins of all - and yes, all have sinned.
If you are denying that all have sinned and some are "innocent" because they are good people who do nice things, you are a) going against mainstream Christian teaching and b) saying that there are some people who don't need Jesus and can/will make it on their own. There aren't.

Now I'm not saying that all these "nice people" will be going to hell - only God knows their hearts, their motives and whether or not they've truly been given the opportunity to accept Jesus. He judges fairly; it's not for us to do his job.
But if someone HAS been told the Gospel and had it explained to them that, however good their actions might be, they still need Jesus and God's forgiveness; if they say "no, I'll do it on my own/I don't believe I need him" and they constantly refuse to listen or believe, when they die they will die in their sins and be separated from God.

The idea that someone can do what they want and still be saved is, I think, Universalism.

 

[Michie]

This is the advice forum right?

 

[timewerx]

This is the advice forum right?

I'm OK with it. I'm the one looking for advice anyway. Again, thanks for the prayers!

 

[Michie]

I'm OK with it. I'm the one looking for advice anyway. Again, thanks for the prayers!

Well it’s turned into somewhat of a debate which we are not allowed to do in the advice forum. I hope you are feeling better and things improve soon. Continued prayers for you and your family.

 

[Strong in Him]

Well it’s turned into somewhat of a debate which we are not allowed to do in the advice forum.

Thank you; I hadn't noticed the title of the forum when I wrote my posts.

All the best to the OP, I shall leave now.

 

[David Lamb]

Jesus came for the lost yet He did not say all people are lost.

He is not recorded as having said the actual words, "All people are lost," but He often said that only those who believe in Him would be saved to eternal life. For instance:

“"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (Joh 3:14-16 NKJV)

He never said, "By obeying God's commandments you will be saved."

He certainly did not offer salvation to John the Baptist even if John the Baptist did not know Christ's birthname and died never knowing His birthname.

We don't read in the bible an account of Jesus "offering salvation" to John, but that doesn't mean that He didn't do so. John would be included in "whoever believes in Him." John did believe in Jesus. He said:

“Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” (Joh 1:29 NKJV)

Where do you get the idea that John didn't know the birthname of Jesus? Granted, he doesn't refer to Jesus by that name, but seeing as John was the son of Elizabeth, a relative of Mary, he would have known it.

The word used for "name" in Greek (original translations of the New Testament teachings) doesn't only mean birth name but can also be "cause".

The vast majority of Christians assume that believing in the "name" of Jesus meant believing in His birthname which would mean John the Baptist died unsaved which is definitely NOT the case.

Not so. The word for "name" can mean "cause", but it means other things as well. My bible dictionary says:
"1) name: univ. of proper names
2) the name is used for everything which the name covers, everything the thought or feeling of which is aroused in the mind by mentioning, hearing, remembering, the name, i.e. for one’s rank, authority, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc.
3) persons reckoned up by name
4) the cause or reason named: on this account, because he suffers as a Christian, for this reason"
I cannot think of anybody who believes that the label "Jesus" actually saves. I believe "name" as far as Jesus is concerned means His whole Person and character, as described in 2) above. We are told why He was to be given the name "Jesus":

“"And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."” (Mt 1:21 NKJV

John definitely worked for the Lord's "cause" and therefore believed in His "cause" (in context but translated in English as "name")

He did, but He believed that Jesus is the Saviour. He believed Jesus was far more important than him.

There are many good and selfless people around world working for the Lord's "cause" without knowing His birthname and many aren't even Christians.

How can anybody work for God's cause who doesn't believe in His Son? Jesus spoke about His heavenly Father's will, His "cause", like this:

“"And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."” (Joh 6:40 NKJV)

The Lord's cause can be summed up to the first two commandments. People who never heard about Christianity nor the Bible can end up doing the Lord's cause by simply loving others as themselves especially people who are poor (Matthew 25:40).

But loving others, though important, is only one of the two commandments you mention. The first, Jesus said, is:

“‘And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This [is] the first commandment.” (Mr 12:30 NKJV)

It's entirely possible for people in isolated communities to be saved in spite of lazy, greedy, pleasure-seeking Christians not doing enough to help spread the Gospel to the world. It would be a huge injustice that God would send good and selfless people to hell because His selfish, greedy, worldly, pleasure-loving followers can't be bothered to break a leg from their comfortable lives.

"name" in Greek:
ὄνομα - onoma

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. word
Definition
a name, authority, cause

Strong's Greek: 3686. ὄνομα (onoma) -- Name

 

[High Fidelity]

You’re looking into it far too much.

There’s nothing to see or be concerned about.