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Yes, but oxalobacters supplementation did not help with it. So, which study proved that they can help with higher amount of oxalates? Also, with what amount, exactly? And does it differ based upon different plants, time of day, age, gender etc?The population studied had primary hyperoxaluria, which is a rare genetic condition.
Yes, but oxalobacters supplementation did not help with it. So, which study proved that they can help with higher amount of oxalates? Also, with what amount, exactly? And does it differ based upon different plants, time of day, age, gender etc?
All these questions are important to study.
You can learn a lot about immunity looking at AIDS patients. Extraordinary disease is not something that invalidates the conclusion that some supposed mechanism does not work as expected.Your referencing a study of an extraordinary disease condition that isn't at all typical. It would be like studying how to improve immune function by looking at AIDS patients.
For the vast majority of people, it's not at all harmful to eat several servings of kale or greens every day. The oxalates are either eaten by microbes in the intestines, or will be eliminated in the urine.
You can learn a lot about immunity looking at AIDS patients. Extraordinary disease is not something that invalidates the conclusion that some supposed mechanism does not work as expected.
Again, what study do you use to base your assumption that oxalates are safe to eat, on?
Considering foods high in oxalate like potato, peanuts, cocoa, or soybeans have been eaten for centuries, and many of these foods are considered otherwise healthy and safe to eat, the burden of proof is on those who would insist they are not safe.
What we don't know, though, is how modern production techniques and the chemical environment have altered those foods and our internal responses to them.Considering foods high in oxalate like potato, peanuts, cocoa, or soybeans have been eaten for centuries, and many of these foods are considered otherwise healthy and safe to eat, the burden of proof is on those who would insist they are not safe.
Most people should not be seeking to reduce their consumption of oxalate in foods:
Iinterference with nutrient absorption, irregular heartbeats, kidney stones, gum inflammation, bone pain, joint aches, problems with skin, autistic spectrum disorders, anemia, osteoporosis and many other problems:
Yes, but oxalobacters supplementation did not help with it. So, which study proved that they can help with higher amount of oxalates? Also, with what amount, exactly? And does it differ based upon different plants, time of day, age, gender etc?
All these questions are important to study.
It doesn't work that way for herbivores. It does work that way for carnivores. Cattle produce a lot more dung than lions produce scat.If you eat all the time during the day and generally indulge on food, you'll be passing digestion products too quickly. There won't be enough time for gut bacteria to ferment and metabolize your digestion products, and it won't foster a favorable environment for gut colony to thrive.
In a perfectly working digestive system with optimal eating habit, you'll be passing very little solid waste. Most of your waste will be passed as urine and gas (CO2 and other gases like methane)
I do not see a connection to the post you quoted...If you eat and take meds like a typical American, you won't be able to foster an effective gut colony.
Meds can have a dramatic effect on gut colony. The rate of digestion will also have dramatic effect on the quality of digestion and gut colony.
If you eat all the time during the day and generally indulge on food, you'll be passing digestion products too quickly. There won't be enough time for gut bacteria to ferment and metabolize your digestion products, and it won't foster a favorable environment for gut colony to thrive.
In a perfectly working digestive system with optimal eating habit, you'll be passing very little solid waste. Most of your waste will be passed as urine and gas (CO2 and other gases like methane)
You body will get more energy per unit weight of food you eat. If people are cars, you'll have huge MPG numbers by having a very efficient "engine".
I don't trust "magic" or "fad" diets. They're just trying to fix a broken lifestyle and there's a lot of misinformation and biased data/research flying around to discredit each other. Why not just fix the broken lifestyle directly?
You are just one subject on the internet from the other side of the planet. Let us talk about objective facts, studies, evidence. Post articles to support what you want to claim so there is something factual to talk about.I get none of those symptoms... I love... At my age of 42...
Ornish diet is heart-healthy because it is against smoking and for whole food instead of highly processed food. Not because its "low red meat". There is no clinical association between red meat and heart disease, not to say causality.Especially Ornish for Heart Healthh
All mostly high plant based low red meat.
Ornish diet is heart-healthy because it is against smoking and for whole food instead of highly processed food.
Because the ornish diet is plant-based, its actually quite problematic, mainly in an older age, when you want to do a lot of resistance training and get/keep as much muscle as possible. You can search for "longevity Peter Attia" on youtube to find out more details.
I get none of those symptoms. In fact, I have the opposite of those problems.
Spinach is one of those veggies I love if they get cheap enough. Beans and carrots is always part of my meals together with pork meat so I'm omnivorous for the most part.
At my age of 42 I have the cardiovascular fitness level of a world class endurance athlete around half my age. I did have the Holy Spirit as my workout coach.
The world is looking for the magic diet to fix wrong eating habits and lack of exercise. Why not just exercise, avoid eating between meals, and avoid indulging in food? Practice restraint.
Deny yourself as the Bible teaches like deny yourself in food. In context, have discipline in eating. Don't always satisfy the hunger/pleasure cravings concerning food.
If you do this, the body will adapt to the scarcity and learn how to metabolize more foods, including foods that are relatively toxic like plants.
Yes, they can account for that. And when they do, there is no health outcome. Post a link to a study that accounts for smoking, exercise, junk food, alcohol, sugar and other similar factors and still found clinically significant benefit of Ornish (or any plant based) diet.The science of statistics can account for the effects of different rates of smoking, including in Ornish's studies. The different health outcomes aren't due to smoking rates being different.
It is very hard. Not just protein, but other nutrients too (vitamins, collagen...). Plus you get a lot of toxins like oxalates, pesticides and heavy metals as a bonus.It's not that hard to get enough protein on a well-planned plant-based diet.
It is very hard.
Not just protein, but other nutrients too (vitamins, collagen...). Plus you get a lot of toxins like oxalates, pesticides and heavy metals as a bonus.
It doesn't work that way for herbivores. It does work that way for carnivores. Cattle produce a lot more dung than lions produce scat.
Ornish diet is heart-healthy because it is against smoking and for whole food instead of highly processed food. Not because its "low red meat". There is no clinical association between red meat and heart disease, not to say causality.
Because the ornish diet is plant-based, its actually quite problematic, mainly in an older age, when you want to do a lot of resistance training and get/keep as much muscle as possible. You can search for "longevity Peter Attia" on youtube to find out more details.
You want to have a long health span, not just life span. If you are unable to move, have aching joints, arthritis, dementia and are so fragile that if you fall you cannot get up, it does not matter too much that your heart is healthy. Health and fitness is more complex than just one thing.
Here is the problem every one of those studies has:Increased heart disease risk from red meat may stem from gut microbe response to digestion
Increased heart disease risk from red meat may stem from gut microbe response to digestion
Embargoed until 4 a.m. CT/5 a.m. ET Monday, August 1, 2022 Research Highlights: A new study found that chemicals produced in the digestive tract by gut microbes after eating red meat (such as beef, pork, bison, venison) explained a significant portion ...newsroom.heart.org
Eating red meat daily triples heart disease-related chemical
People had high blood levels of TMAO, a chemical that’s been linked to heart disease, when they ate a diet rich in red meat.www.nih.gov
Is Red Meat Bad for Your Heart … or Not?
New reports suggest that eating red meat may not be bad for your heart after all. But take that news with a grain of salt. This Q&A explains.health.clevelandclinic.org
I will go with the recommendations of American heart Association, American Cancer Association, American Diabetic Association, Mayo Clinic, National Institute of Health, Cleveland Clinic, and other mainstream authorities.
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