Vegetarianism.

[Sammy-San]

This guy says eating meat "not that its right"-he's not saying its a sin, but I guess he's saying it's not really right. Do you think it makes sense bibically?

 

[Solomons Porch]

Every meal, every day MUST have meat "for me". Keep the carbs, keep the sweets, but I GOTTA have meat!!!

 

[MustardSeeed]

God gave us dominion over animals... so it's not "wrong" to eat them. Anyways, I barely eat meat .. however, it's due to personal preference/taste reasons. I feel like it's a Catch-22. I don't support animals being tortured or mistreated either but I can't say I won't eat them. At the same time there are Christians who think the Bible is against eating seafood too. If we follow some people we really would be eating bread alone

 

[bekkilyn]

I don't believe it's sinful to eat meat in the sense of it being a sinful act. After all, God allowed his people in the OT to eat certain kinds of clean animals and fish. However, eating meat didn't seem to be a part of God's original plan before the fall. So perhaps eating meat is more of a sinful state because of living in a fallen world.

Perhaps it would be spiritually better to not eat meat in that sense. Or even simply for health reasons.

 

[RDKirk]

This guy says eating meat "not that its right"-he's not saying its a sin, but I guess he's saying it's not really right. Do you think it makes sense bibically?

I'd point out that vegetarianism and veganism are not the same things.

However, Jesus--being an observant Jew-- ate meat.

 

[Sammy-San]

I'd point out that vegetarianism and veganism are not the same things.

However, Jesus--being an observant Jew-- ate meat.

Is the statement where he say it isnt right true? Not that its sinful, but it is not noble or honorable-it's a sad reality of our fallen world that animals die and therefore killing them for food is acceptable.

 

[Sammy-San]

I don't believe it's sinful to eat meat in the sense of it being a sinful act. After all, God allowed his people in the OT to eat certain kinds of clean animals and fish. However, eating meat didn't seem to be a part of God's original plan before the fall. So perhaps eating meat is more of a sinful state because of living in a fallen world.

Perhaps it would be spiritually better to not eat meat in that sense. Or even simply for health reasons.

Not sinful-but "not right".

 

[GeorgeJ]

Canine teeth (cuspids).......we were created as meat eaters.

Not saying that vegetables and fruits aren't meant to be a part of our diet, because they obviously are....but we were not created to be solely vegetarians/vegans.

 

[RDKirk]

Not sinful-but "not right".

Since you're making a distinction between "sin" and "not right," what do you see as the distinction? Is this by some moral authority in addition to God or, for that matter, superior to God? If God has no problem with an action but it's still "not right," is that not implying a superior moral authority above God?

 

[Sammy-San]

Since you're making a distinction between "sin" and "not right," what do you see as the distinction? Is this by some moral authority in addition to God or, for that matter, superior to God? If God has no problem with an action but it's still "not right," is that not implying a superior moral authority above God?

It seems to me he meant that it wasn't right, not that it was sinful.

Would you say animal cruelty is a sin? I was having OCD-if people killing shellfish (who die horribly) and sport hunting are okay (What does the Bible say about Christians hunting animals for sport?), what bibically makes what people are arrested for sinful?

I assume part of the reason bestiality and sacrifices not done to God are sinful is due to it being cruel.

 

[Albion]

Of course it's right. Jesus helped his own Apostles catch and eat fish. In Luke 22 and 24 he ate lamb and fish himself. And in the miracle of the loaves and fishes, he ordered his followers to distribute fish to the crowd that had come to hear him preach so that they wouldn't go hungry..

 

[Sammy-San]

Of course it's right. Jesus helped his own Apostles catch and eat fish. In Luke 22 and 24 he ate lamb and fish himself. And in the miracle of the loaves and fishes, he ordered his followers to distribute fish to the crowd that had come to hear him preach so that they wouldn't go hungry..

Was I wrong or right about certain acts being forbidden in part due to their cruel and nasty nature?

 

[Albion]

Certain acts are definitely wrong. The ten commandments list some of them. Eating meat is not wrong, however.

 

[Soyeong]

This guy says eating meat "not that its right"-he's not saying its a sin, but I guess he's saying it's not really right. Do you think it makes sense bibically?

There are the times where God commanded His people to eat meat, such as to eat the Passover lamb, which is something Jesus would have done as a Torah observant Jew, so I see no biblical grounds whatsoever to say that there is anything wrong in itself with eating meat. When you consider all of the animals that are killed in order to clear land to grow crops or that die from pesticides used on crops, then it can be argued that the diet that involves the least amount of sentient animal deaths includes some meat. However, it can still be unethical to support the mistreatment of animals, such as at factory farms. A different issue of whether it is permissible to eat meat is how much meat we should eat because of related health problems. The average American gets way more protein than they need and it easily possible to get all the protein that we need with a vegan diet. However, veganism is more than just a diet, but rather the diet is the result of a vegan philosophy towards the treatment of animals. For a while I considered myself to be a vegan because I ate a strict vegan diet for health reasons, but because I didn't hold to a vegan philosophy, I was assured that I wasn't a vegan.

 

[Sammy-San]

Certain acts are definitely wrong. The ten commandments list some of them. Eating meat is not wrong, however.

Are things like bestiality and animal sacrifices wrong just due to perversion and ungodly spirituality being wrong, or also because they are acts of animal abuse?

 

[RDKirk]

For a Christian, nothing is "wrong" for any reason except what God says about it.

There is no morality aside from or superior to God.

 

[Soyeong]

Are things like bestiality and animal sacrifices wrong just due to perversion and ungodly spirituality being wrong, or also because they are acts of animal abuse?

God commanded His people to make offerings and in some instances people received a portion back to eat at the Lord's table, such as with the peace offering, so again there are no biblical grounds for saying that this is wrong. While animal abuse is wrong, this was not animal abuse and steps were taken to ensure that the animal died quickly and painlessly.

 

[Sammy-San]

God commanded His people to make offerings and in some instances people received a portion back to eat at the Lord's table, such as with the peace offering, so again there are no biblical grounds for saying that this is wrong. While animal abuse is wrong, this was not animal abuse and steps were taken to ensure that the animal died quickly and painlessly.

Is animal abuse partially the reason those sins punishable by death in OT law were wrong?

 

[Soyeong]

Is animal abuse partially the reason those sins punishable by death in OT law were wrong?

Many of God's Laws invite us to ponder why God commanded them, so it is perfectly reasonable to think that animal abuse was part of the reason why God commanded against beasility. Sex is a wonderful gift from God, but it is a gift that can easily be abused, so God gave instructions for our own good for how to correctly use it.

 

[Sammy-San]

Many of God's Laws invite us to ponder why God commanded them, so it is perfectly reasonable to think that animal abuse was part of the reason why God commanded against beasility. Sex is a wonderful gift from God, but it is a gift that can easily be abused, so God gave instructions for our own good for how to correctly use it.

Would you say the Christian comment about eating meat not being right is false.

It reminds me of a comment where it said sexual love is not evil per se but at least implied it was base compared to agape love.