Valentine's Day

[Socktastic]

Being one of those awful people who fail to exchange gifts/celebrate birthdays, Christmas, Valentines or anything else I should, in theory, be all "yeah, pagan ceremonies boo" but i'm not.

Past activities do not make what is essentially a day that can be used to remind us all that we need to let the ones we love know that we love them rather than assuming they know through their superawesome mind reading powers a pagan ritual. There is no worship; cards, candy and glittery hearts that are viewed of as pretty are no more items of worship than the glow in the dark dinosaurs I buy the chickadees whenever the dinosaur exhibit rolls into town.

A day is what you make it. If you are motivated by the thought of flogging young women whilst rutting wildly with a sweet young thing you barely know then perhaps that is not quite the Christian thing to do. If you are motivated to remind those around you that you care for them, even if you do not show them as often as you should, then is that linked to a pagan custom that many are not even aware of?

It is good to have convictions and stick to them. It is also good to use reason and logic when determining what is and is not appropriate. I have yet to see a convincing argument that the modern association is anything but a day of opportunity for businesses and a way of expressing things that, on other days, people are sometimes too shy to express.

I like it, even if I do not opt to make it into a special day.

 

[Tink]

paganismin the worship of Gods creations, but not God himself. So to worship anything other than the Christ, God sees that as paganism by default.

Come out of her, My people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues” Rev. 18:2-4).

Deut 7-4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

jer 10-2-3 “Learn not the way of the heathen…For the customs of the people are vain”

just read this. i dont have the time to write on the origins on vday/Christmas, but this outlines it perfectly. You will also need to do more research on people like valentine, nimrod, cupid etc because they all cross each other.


i cant post links. so google search "The Truth Behind St. Valentine’s Day" and click the first link.

Well, that's all well and good, but I asked for you to support your belief without a website. I've read all those, and while the origins of Valentine's Day may be quite sinister, I don't see them as pagan or satanic.

Telling my wife with flowers & candy how special to me she is by joining in my ministry to God has to be soo satanic. Somehow the madness has to stop.

You bad, bad man.

Being one of those awful people who fail to exchange gifts/celebrate birthdays, Christmas, Valentines or anything else I should, in theory, be all "yeah, pagan ceremonies boo" but i'm not.

Past activities do not make what is essentially a day that can be used to remind us all that we need to let the ones we love know that we love them rather than assuming they know through their superawesome mind reading powers a pagan ritual. There is no worship; cards, candy and glittery hearts that are viewed of as pretty are no more items of worship than the glow in the dark dinosaurs I buy the chickadees whenever the dinosaur exhibit rolls into town.

A day is what you make it. If you are motivated by the thought of flogging young women whilst rutting wildly with a sweet young thing you barely know then perhaps that is not quite the Christian thing to do. If you are motivated to remind those around you that you care for them, even if you do not show them as often as you should, then is that linked to a pagan custom that many are not even aware of?

It is good to have convictions and stick to them. It is also good to use reason and logic when determining what is and is not appropriate. I have yet to see a convincing argument that the modern association is anything but a day of opportunity for businesses and a way of expressing things that, on other days, people are sometimes too shy to express.

I like it, even if I do not opt to make it into a special day.

You are fantastic. Thank you.

 

[Stirleyyy]

You people refuse to believe the truth, even in scripture, even in Gods word, you still defy. I pray God will enlighten you, for you believe in the lies of the devil, and you fight to believe his lies at the expense of spitting in Gods face.

 

[Tink]

You people refuse to believe the truth, even in scripture, even in Gods word, you still defy. I pray God will enlighten you, for you believe in the lies of the devil, and you fight to believe his lies at the expense of spitting in Gods face.

I don't see anything in Scripture about Valentine's day. If you can show me, or point me to it, then I will never celebrate it again.

Also, what you've just done is considered flaming on the forum, and is prohibited. Normally I would report such behavior, but you're new to the area. Please refrain from attacking other members. Thank you.

Just because I give my husband extra attention on a certain day (or days) of the year does not mean that I've turned away from God, that I'm not enlightened, or any of the other rude things you've said.

Again, show me in God's Word...

 

[Socktastic]

I see scripture.

I see no strong evidence to support the claim that what the majority of individuals who opt to partake in letting their loved ones know they love them are connected with ancient practices.

Could I request an elaboration of how the modern way of celebrating Valentine's day is a satanic act and how scripture can be applied to it, in your own words? Are those who exchange cards really partaking in heathen ways where names were drawn at random to allow for premarital frolicking?

I don't want just youtube videos or quotes, i'm interested in how you arrived at this conclusion and the thought process involved.

 

[Rhye]

We spit in Gods face by giving a card to someone and saying we love them. Or sending a few flowers. Really?

 

[Thunder Peel]

I didn't realize candlelit dinners on special days were in defiance of God's word. Never again.

 

[Stravinsk]

We spit in Gods face by giving a card to someone and saying we love them. Or sending a few flowers. Really?

No - it is not the act of goodwill itself that offends. And God does wink at ignorance - provided that it is not willful ignorance.

What offends is this:

Ancient holidays (aka pagan holy-days) on a non biblical calendar can not be "cleansed" by attaching names of saints, "god", Mary or anything else on them.

The Calendar itself offends. It does not recognize the creator - as it is a solar only calendar - such as used by the ancient Egyptians - who worshiped the sun.

The Solar Calendar and it's "holy days" blinds people to the true Feasts of God.

If you've ever wondered why there are sun symbols all over what is called Christianity - this is the answer. The obelisk in Rome in what's called St. Peter's square is a giant sun dial to mark observances by equinoxes. The obelisk was originally taken from the ancient Heliopolis - the sun city of Egypt. That's no mere coincidence.

 

[Stirleyyy]

I don't see anything in Scripture about Valentine's day. If you can show me, or point me to it, then I will never celebrate it again.

Also, what you've just done is considered flaming on the forum, and is prohibited. Normally I would report such behavior, but you're new to the area. Please refrain from attacking other members. Thank you.

Just because I give my husband extra attention on a certain day (or days) of the year does not mean that I've turned away from God, that I'm not enlightened, or any of the other rude things you've said.

Again, show me in God's Word...

First off, im not flaming anyone. Thats just how you perceive it, but my intent was nothing of the sort.

I just posted scripture. Its really really simple, if you seek the truth, only pain and confusion you will find. But freedom you will gain. ima let you do the research if you really want truth.

I see scripture.

I see no strong evidence to support the claim that what the majority of individuals who opt to partake in letting their loved ones know they love them are connected with ancient practices.

Could I request an elaboration of how the modern way of celebrating Valentine's day is a satanic act and how scripture can be applied to it, in your own words? Are those who exchange cards really partaking in heathen ways where names were drawn at random to allow for premarital frolicking?

I don't want just youtube videos or quotes, i'm interested in how you arrived at this conclusion and the thought process involved.

You demand truth, but add insignificant little rules like "no website," while your on the INTERNET. Creating a paradox, because in your mind there will never be enough evidence, because posting links somehow does not qualify as evidence.

those "cards" are what the women of Rome would write their names on, and then would be put into collection with other names. When called that women would be a sex slave for the man that whole year. thus how you get asking people to be your valentine.

You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Simply, vday is NOT OF GOD, and should not be celibated by default. The meaning does not matter, and how you justify it does not matter.

We spit in Gods face by giving a card to someone and saying we love them. Or sending a few flowers. Really?

hey, if you have issues with it you can take it up with the Big man, i didnt make the rules.

 

[Rhye]

I don't have issues with it but you seem too.

Also, I don't write a note on a card and give it to someone as a way of saying I want to have sex with them. It's kind of sad that you assume that is the intention of everyone because that was done thousands of years ago!

 

[Rhye]

I'm going to post this and then go to sleepy land.

This is the card I received from a friend. I didn't even know I was going to get it. For the past two weeks I've been very sick and getting this card helped me feel better that day.
It was meant with love, nothing less.

You don't believe in it, fine. You don't celebrate it, fine. Don't make it seem as though we are less for God, naive, or anything else because we do. You remind me of the 4 year old I worked with a few months ago who told me, "Santa will burn in hell." Sadly, children hear that and from where, their parents. Its one thing to not celebrate something and teach your kids the truth about Christmas, its another to teach them things like that. I compare this with yours because you seem to have completely gone overboard with it as well.

 

[Stirleyyy]

I don't have issues with it but you seem too.

Also, I don't write a note on a card and give it to someone as a way of saying I want to have sex with them. It's kind of sad that you assume that is the intention of everyone because that was done thousands of years ago!

i give up

I'm going to post this and then go to sleepy land.

This is the card I received from a friend. I didn't even know I was going to get it. For the past two weeks I've been very sick and getting this card helped me feel better that day.
It was meant with love, nothing less.


You don't believe in it, fine. You don't celebrate it, fine. Don't make it seem as though we are less for God, naive, or anything else because we do. You remind me of the 4 year old I worked with a few months ago who told me, "Santa will burn in hell." Sadly, children hear that and from where, their parents. Its one thing to not celebrate something and teach your kids the truth about Christmas, its another to teach them things like that. I compare this with yours because you seem to have completely gone overboard with it as well.

ok.

lulz, and people talk about me "flaming" haha.

 

[Rhye]

I'm not flaming, I'm telling you exactly what you are doing. The truth will set you free, remember? You don't see your actions and your words. If you want to speak truth, if you want to teach the truth, be kind, be open, listen, and teach the truth, don't bash and belittle.

 

[Stirleyyy]

Your not telling me what im doing, your being quasi-intellectual right now. Im not trying to be mean, but its ovbious you dont have an in depth knowledge on the subject at hand. Im really not trying to be mean.

 

[Rhye]

Your not telling me what im doing, your being quasi-intellectual right now. Follow your own advice.

Sometimes you have to teach children how to behave. Thats called discipline.

 

[Stirleyyy]

Sometimes you have to teach children how to behave. That called discipline.

yet even teachers have to get educated periodically through out their careers.

 

[Blank123]

I'm going to post this and then go to sleepy land.

This is the card I received from a friend. I didn't even know I was going to get it. For the past two weeks I've been very sick and getting this card helped me feel better that day.
It was meant with love, nothing less.

You don't believe in it, fine. You don't celebrate it, fine. Don't make it seem as though we are less for God, naive, or anything else because we do. You remind me of the 4 year old I worked with a few months ago who told me, "Santa will burn in hell." Sadly, children hear that and from where, their parents. Its one thing to not celebrate something and teach your kids the truth about Christmas, its another to teach them things like that. I compare this with yours because you seem to have completely gone overboard with it as well.

have I told you lately that I love you?

 

[Rhye]

yet even teachers have to get educated periodically through out their careers.

Indeed. Its called professional development. I am required to continue my education until the day I die. Well, that something I've placed on myself more then my career forces me to do.

I just saw your previous edit. You are right, I do not have the knowledge about the events, and what Stravinsk posted was informative. I am not saying the events are not true, I am simply saying it is how you come across. Sock asked you to post things, but I want to learn more as well. If you like show me the websites, tomorrow morning I will look at the other site you posted. Then I can understand more about the history of it.

 

[Blank123]

You people refuse to believe the truth, even in scripture, even in Gods word, you still defy. I pray God will enlighten you, for you believe in the lies of the devil, and you fight to believe his lies at the expense of spitting in Gods face.

Might wanna check His Manual before condemning others on His behalf =)

5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; - Romans 14

 

[Stravinsk]

I don't see anything in Scripture about Valentine's day. If you can show me, or point me to it, then I will never celebrate it again.

...

Again, show me in God's Word...

I can show you how none of the Roman Holidays that are celebrated are approved of. Valentines day, as it's celebrated, is not even that big of a deal. The bigger deals are Christmas and Easter.

But are you absolutely sure you want to know?

But I can not show you - that is - you must seek, and you will find.

Because if I were to show you - you would be greatly offended. I have tried this, and found that by sharing it such hatred and vehemence against me that I am convinced it is a highly spiritual matter. It was for me when I researched - and continue to do so.

If you seek, and ask and obey - you WILL be shown truth - and not just about Valentines day. But all of them. For one man sits behind the approval of all of them.