using one another/contraception

[hollyda]

Don't be silly. If any of those things apply, YOU SHOULDN'T BE HAVING SEX.

If contraceptives are only acceptable for medical purposes, and sex is strictly for baby makin', does that mean infertile couples should never have sex?

 

[selfinflikted]

If contraceptives are only acceptable for medical purposes, and sex is strictly for baby makin', does that mean infertile couples should never have sex?

Of course! Because, as we all know, any relationship that cannot produce offspring is unnatural, perverted, and is a grave sin!

 

[hollyda]

Of course! Because, as we all know, any relationship that cannot produce offspring is unnatural, perverted, and is a grave sin!

Since you edited, I shall do the same.

Hah...you said perv.

 

[selfinflikted]

Since you edited, I shall do the same.

Hah...you said perv.

lol. Sorry about that. My "mouth" runs away from me sometimes and I post before I can help it. I am trying SO hard not to make an ass of myself today!

 

[hollyda]

lol. Sorry about that. My "mouth" runs away from me sometimes and I post before I can help it. I am trying SO hard not to make an ass of myself today!

This sounds way too familiar. I think you might be my long lost brother.

 

[patricius79]

This sounds way too familiar. I think you might be my long lost brother.

and he's my long lost brother.

Selfinflikted wrote:

Of course! Because, as we all know, any relationship that cannot produce offspring is unnatural, perverted, and is a grave sin!

that is not the doctrine of the Biblical Church. it is true that any sexual act deliberately rendered sterile is unnatural, etc

 

[selfinflikted]

I think you might be my long lost brother.

and he's my long lost brother.

 

[Larry Salamander]

martial relationships must be open to the possiblity of fecundity.

Post-menopausal wives shouldn't have sex? Or wives who've had a hysterectomy?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

why is it suddenly okay in our times for Christians to use one another for sex without a full gift of self?

if a man cannot wait until the right time to be with his wife--whether to achieve or avoid pregnancy--then how can he claim to have self control?

I'm unaware that it has suddenly become 'okay' for Christians to use each other for sex. From where and whom are you getting claims that it is now okay for Christians to do so?

 

[patricius79]

Post-menopausal wives shouldn't have sex? Or wives who've had a hysterectomy?

the Church of Jesus does not teach that married people naturally incapable of procreation should abstain from sex

 

[Inept]

What if you marry somebody and they turn out to be a crap lay?

Sex is a fun activity for those involved, just because you haven't "tied the knot" doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to partake in it.

 

[patricius79]

just because you haven't "tied the knot" doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to partake in it.

Christians don't agree

they believe that sex is meant to be an expression of total commitment

 

[AtheistVet]

Christians don't agree

they believe that sex is meant to be an expression of total commitment

"Some" Christians.

 

[Inept]

they believe that sex is meant to be an expression of total commitment

If that's how you view sex, why do you need to get married in order to express total commitment to your partner?

 

[patricius79]

If that's how you view sex, why do you need to get married in order to express total commitment to your partner?

well, what do you think "total commitment" means if not marriage?

 

[Cromulent]

well, what do you think "total commitment" means if not marriage?

Marriages can be annulled, partners cheated on. A ring on the finger doesn't have magic properties that make a married couple unable to break their committment.

And besides, it's stupid to think that two people in their twenties should be shackled to each other until they die. What if they change as people, have fights, or fall out of love?

And finally, why should sex mean "total committment" any more than cooking someone a meal, or playing a round of golf with them should? So long as both parties know what they're getting into, what harm is there in having sex with someone whose adult nappy you don't plan on changing 60 years into the future?

 

[patricius79]

And finally, why should sex mean "total committment" any more than cooking someone a meal, or playing a round of golf with them should? So long as both parties know what they're getting into, what harm is there in having sex with someone whose adult nappy you don't plan on changing 60 years into the future?

because I think that people need love more than anything

they need someone who won't leave them.

 

[Inept]

because I think that people need love more than anything

they need someone who won't leave them.

Marriage definitely doesn't meant that they won't leave you, and neither does sex.

 

[Cromulent]

because I think that people need love more than anything

they need someone who won't leave them.

I get love from my family, and from my friends. Those people aren't any more likely to leave me than someone I'm having sex with. In fact, friends rarely decide to stop seeing each other because "things aren't working out", or because they're "not each other's type". For sure, people need love, but why do they have to be having sex with only one person for their entire life in order to get it?

 

[GryffinSong]

because I think that people need love more than anything

they need someone who won't leave them.

Its not our place to tell people what they need. Different people have different needs. And as has been said before, marriage doesn't guarantee anything. Just look at divorce statistics, infidelity statistics, and unhappy marriage statistics. There are no guarantees in life.