usage of profanity

[MyNameJeff]

don't know if this is the right forum, but just move it if not.

someone try to explain to me why using 21st century profanity is offensive to some christians. i know many christian people who say *profane words* in their normal vocabulary.

i've read the bible verses about swearing, and i've read nothing that actually says anything relative to words like "fword" words like "god dword," i can understand because you're "using god's name in vein," but words like "fword" didn't exist when the bible was written, so there cannot possibly be anything written about it.

i realize that "profanity" is a complete social concept, and this is a really easy concept to understand. just look at other languages. there is a town in austria literally called "fwording." but because "fwording" is an english swear word, it's not considered profane at all to austrians. i'd just like to hear multiple viewpoints on the issue.

also, if swearing is such a sin, i'd like to know why god gives people tourette's syndrome, where you can literally scream profane words at any point in time for no reason, without controlling it.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

i'd like to know why god gives people tourette's syndrome

do you have it?

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

don't know if this is the right forum, but just move it if not.

someone try to explain to me why using 21st century profanity is offensive to some christians. i know many christian people who say "f*ck, sh*t, c*nt, etc" in their normal vocabulary.

i've read the bible verses about swearing, and i've read nothing that actually says anything relative to words like "f*ck." words like "god d*mmit," i can understand because you're "using god's name in vein," but words like "f*ck" didn't exist when the bible was written, so there cannot possibly be anything written about it.

i realize that "profanity" is a complete social concept, and this is a really easy concept to understand. just look at other languages. there is a town in austria literally called "f*cking." but because "f*cking" is an english swear word, it's not considered profane at all to austrians. i'd just like to hear multiple viewpoints on the issue.

also, if swearing is such a sin, i'd like to know why god gives people tourette's syndrome, where you can literally scream profane words at any point in time for no reason, without controlling it.

1 Peter 1:15-16King James Version (KJV)
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.




As you point out certain words that are considered cus words in America are not elsewhere...and certain terms like negro are wrong here but ok in Mexico for the color black. Which is why I believe the mind of God presents us the verse like this.


You see the bible is the mind of God and a christian gets saved to be christ like, so look at it from that perspective of trying to be christ like. Clearly christ here is letting us know that in order to be like him people should notice something different about us and one of those differences should be in our speech. That one way people should be able to tell someone is christ like is based off their speech.

Trust me from experience in this 21st century people notice if you don't cus, even the teachers cus now like if you don't cus it stands out. People ask questions...and BAM you can present your faith.



Also I feel you man, I know many "christians" that cus all the time.... and then talk about how they do this for their church or have participated in this... being a young guy I tend to see this a ton at school.


But yeah

 

[Anguspure]

don't know if this is the right forum, but just move it if not.

someone try to explain to me why using 21st century profanity is offensive to some christians. i know many christian people who say *profane words* in their normal vocabulary.

i've read the bible verses about swearing, and i've read nothing that actually says anything relative to words like "fword" words like "god dword," i can understand because you're "using god's name in vein," but words like "fword" didn't exist when the bible was written, so there cannot possibly be anything written about it.

i realize that "profanity" is a complete social concept, and this is a really easy concept to understand. just look at other languages. there is a town in austria literally called "fwording." but because "fwording" is an english swear word, it's not considered profane at all to austrians. i'd just like to hear multiple viewpoints on the issue.

also, if swearing is such a sin, i'd like to know why god gives people tourette's syndrome, where you can literally scream profane words at any point in time for no reason, without controlling it.

I live in a world (at sea) of extreme profanity. some of my colleagues can hardly utter a sentence without some form of profanity, and it is generally not meant offensively.

But while profanity at this level is not regarded as offensive by most (and even endearing and humorous by many) in this culture, it is recognized that these words are more often used as a filler and a euphemism for a person who finds it difficult to express themselves without the use of these words. The use of strong and regular profanity also marks one as one of the lads, a hard man who shouldn't be messed with.

If a person wishes to sound mild, inoffensive and intelligent (such as a follower of Christ might want) to a listener they will endeavor to refrain from using these words and instead choose words that convey the intended meaning without hardness and with precision.

BTW I don't think God gives anybody Tourette's anymore than He gives them any other consequence of a fallen and sinful world.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I don't like it overused in any context. Having said that, when I get into my car, I take on a different persona!

 

[EmmaCat]

don't know if this is the right forum, but just move it if not.

someone try to explain to me why using 21st century profanity is offensive to some christians. i know many christian people who say *profane words* in their normal vocabulary.

i've read the bible verses about swearing, and i've read nothing that actually says anything relative to words like "fword" words like "god dword," i can understand because you're "using god's name in vein," but words like "fword" didn't exist when the bible was written, so there cannot possibly be anything written about it.

i realize that "profanity" is a complete social concept, and this is a really easy concept to understand. just look at other languages. there is a town in austria literally called "fwording." but because "fwording" is an english swear word, it's not considered profane at all to austrians. i'd just like to hear multiple viewpoints on the issue.

also, if swearing is such a sin, i'd like to know why god gives people tourette's syndrome, where you can literally scream profane words at any point in time for no reason, without controlling it.

Why would anyone like to hear profanity? Why would any good person raised with good manners speak profanely?

Maybe others don't like it. Maybe those of us who are schooled in common decency refrain from using bad words and simply don't speak like that.

If you don't have Tourette's Syndrome, perhaps you know better than to speak profanely.

Why would any Christian even think of using words that do not glorify God's Name?

 

[St_Worm2]

I figure if I only use words that I'd be comfortable uttering in Jesus' presence (which I'm really in all the time anyway ), it would be hard to go wrong. There are also some verses that can help us out with this. For instance, here's a good filter to run your words through before you speak them:

"Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, that it may give grace to those who hear" ~Eph 4:29​

If your words can pass that test, I'd say you're good to go

Another thing to consider whenever you open your mouth to speak (or chose to write in a place like this one) is this, are you intending to glorify God with the words you use? If not, why not ..cf Matthew 5:16.

Yours and His,
David

"There must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting,
which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks"
Ephesians 5:4 ​

 

[EmmaCat]

I figure if I only use words that I'd be comfortable uttering in Jesus' presence (which I'm really in all the time anyway ), it would be hard to go wrong. There are also some verses that can help us out with this. For instance, here's a good filter to run your words through before you speak them:

"Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, that it may give grace to those who hear" ~Eph 4:29​

If your words can pass that test, I'd say you're good to go

Another thing to consider whenever you open your mouth to speak (or chose to write in a place like this one) is this, are you intending to glorify God with the words you use? If not, why not ..cf Matthew 5:16.

Yours and His,
David

"There must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting,
which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks"
Ephesians 5:4 ​

Very well said, sir. Thank you.

 

[Dave-W]

words like "god dword," i can understand because you're "using god's name in vein,"

That is NOT what the first commandment is all about. It was about saying "God told me to do xyz" when God said no such thing. Calling evil good and good evil. False prophecy. That sort of thing.

Our modern English speaking habit of using "God xxxx" or "Jesus xxxx" also did not exist back then.

 

[Dave-W]

1 Peter 1:15-16King James Version (KJV)
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

That is a warning against Lashan Hara.

Lashon hara - Wikipedia

 

[miamited]

HI jeff,

My apologies. Apparently I was wrong. You can't get to that city in Austria from here. You would have to go through another city to get there because that city is profane and it's name should never pass the lips of a believer. I'm guessing there are no believers who live in that city in Austria as they would never be able to address their mail to one another or post a return address on their correspondence.

I stand corrected.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted

 

[Denadii]

don't know if this is the right forum, but just move it if not.

someone try to explain to me why using 21st century profanity is offensive to some christians. i know many christian people who say *profane words* in their normal vocabulary.

i've read the bible verses about swearing, and i've read nothing that actually says anything relative to words like "fword" words like "god dword," i can understand because you're "using god's name in vein," but words like "fword" didn't exist when the bible was written, so there cannot possibly be anything written about it.

i realize that "profanity" is a complete social concept, and this is a really easy concept to understand. just look at other languages. there is a town in austria literally called "fwording." but because "fwording" is an english swear word, it's not considered profane at all to austrians. i'd just like to hear multiple viewpoints on the issue.

also, if swearing is such a sin, i'd like to know why god gives people tourette's syndrome, where you can literally scream profane words at any point in time for no reason, without controlling it.

From what I understand of the Word, bad language is the least part of profanity. Here is another way many of us Christians speak evil on a regular basis. Speaking profanities is speaking contrary to Gods Word. Speaking truth, I'm sick is still a profanity because God said that we ARE healed.
Going into a skid when you're driving and someone screams "Oh. We're all gonna die!" What does God say "
Psalm 91:9-12 (CJB)
9 For you have made Adonai, the Most High,
who is my refuge, your dwelling-place.
10 No disaster will happen to you,
no calamity will come near your tent;
11 for he will order his angels to care for you
and guard you wherever you go.
12 They will carry you in their hands,
so that you won’t trip on a stone.

Which one is right to speak for a Christian? Speaking what you think, see, or feel? Or agreeing with God's Word?
Humility is simply agreeing with God's Word.

 

[bhsmte]

I work in a professional field with highly educated people. I can tell you, the use of profanity in certain circumstances is common. They key is to know your audience and to pick your spots, but IMO, selective use of certain swear words, can be a very effective tool.

 

[Rubiks]

AFAIK, when the bible mentions "cursing," it's not talking about cursewords, but rather saying things like "May God utterly destroy <insert name here>"

 

[Denadii]

I work in a professional field with highly educated people. I can tell you, the use of profanity in certain circumstances is common. They key is to know your audience and to pick your spots, but IMO, selective use of certain swear words, can be a very effective tool.

It's interesting how you have those wise sayings as if to back up your post....I'll give you another.
Colossians 3:8
But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.

Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

Matthew 12:36-37
I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

Matthew 15:10-11
And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”

Oops. Is that more than one?

 

[bhsmte]

It's interesting how you have those wise sayings as if to back up your post....I'll give you another.
Colossians 3:8
But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.

Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

Matthew 12:36-37
I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

Matthew 15:10-11
And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”

Oops. Is that more than one?

Thats cool, if you want to follow scripture. Others dont put the value in scripture that you may or find it credible.

 

[Denadii]

Thats cool, if you want to follow scripture. Others dont put the value in scripture that you may or find it credible.

I understand that and I find that is really sad. They hamstring themselves by not believing the creator.

 

[Audacious]

My view of profanity is that it's a whole lot of fun (especially when aptly and carefully used).

It is my view that most of the things people say are about profanity in the Bible are actually about other things, such as swearing being a different thing from literal cursing.

 

[bhsmte]

I understand that and I find that is really sad. They hamstring themselves by not believing the creator.

Dontbbe sad, you can still believe it. You dont actually expect everyone to agree with your faith beliefs, do you?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

That's cool, if you want to follow scripture. Others don't put the value in scripture that you may or find it credible.

Don't be sad, you can still believe it. You don't actually expect everyone to agree with your faith beliefs, do you?

Well said, bhsmte. I agree.