Update on Fr. John Corapi

[JoabAnias]

Bishop Gracida, the bishop emeritus of Corpus Christi, said in his post that:

This coming from the man who established the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity as a diocesan institute.

Yup. I hope this is his opportunity to clear his name.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Interesting. Very interesting.

He is acknowledging that he is a sinner. That is a mark of humility.

He also wants to protect the flock. That shows dedication.

My prayers for him.

Our prayers need to be with him.

The true sign of humility would have been to do as St Pio and St John of the Cross had done.

 

[JoabAnias]

by suing people and whistle-blowing he is wealthy

Qui tam False Claims Act lawsuit

Corapi filed a qui tam False Claims Act lawsuit against Redding Medical Center cardiologist Chae Hyun Moon after Dr. Moon informed Corapi in 2002 that he was in immediate need of triple bypass surgery, but then told Corapi the procedure could wait three weeks. Corapi decided to seek other medical advice, and it was found he had perfectly clear arteries. Corapi ultimately went to the FBI and filed the suit that was the basis of an FBI raid, and multi-year investigation into Dr. Moon's practice.[13]

The United States Department of Justice reached a settlement with four cardiologists and Tenet Healthcare Corporation, the owner of Redding Hospital during 2005, in part due to Corapi's initial complaint. Three physicians, Dr. Fidel Realyvasquez, Dr. Kent Brusett, and Dr. Ricardo Javier Moreno-Cabral, settled for a total of $24 million; Realyvasquez and Moon, the target of Corapi's lawsuit, paid $1.4 million; and agreed to never perform cardiology procedures or surgeries on Medicare, Medi-Cal or Tricare patients.[14] Moon's medical license was eventually revoked in 2007 for gross negligence, among other charges. Realyvasquez is still practicing in California.[15]

Corapi was awarded $2,712,281 (USD) for his role as a whistleblower in the False Claims Act Lawsuit as well as the $500,000 USD he and his friend were awarded for the insurance case they filed.[16] His involvement as a whistle-blower in the federal investigation of the practices in the Redding Medical Center played an important role in Stephen Klaidman's non-fiction book Coronary.

The doctor was a liar and a crook.

Liars need to beware of Fr. Corapi. He will bring the justice.

 

[MariaRegina]

Praise the Lord.

I am so glad that Father Corapi blew the whistle on this scam by wealthy cardiologist who were willing to put people under the knife and perhaps kill them by so doing.

God bless Father Corapi.

Qui tam False Claims Act lawsuit

Corapi filed a qui tam False Claims Act lawsuit against Redding Medical Center cardiologist Chae Hyun Moon after Dr. Moon informed Corapi in 2002 that he was in immediate need of triple bypass surgery, but then told Corapi the procedure could wait three weeks. Corapi decided to seek other medical advice, and it was found he had perfectly clear arteries. Corapi ultimately went to the FBI and filed the suit that was the basis of an FBI raid, and multi-year investigation into Dr. Moon's practice.[13]

The United States Department of Justice reached a settlement with four cardiologists and Tenet Healthcare Corporation, the owner of Redding Hospital during 2005, in part due to Corapi's initial complaint. Three physicians, Dr. Fidel Realyvasquez, Dr. Kent Brusett, and Dr. Ricardo Javier Moreno-Cabral, settled for a total of $24 million; Realyvasquez and Moon, the target of Corapi's lawsuit, paid $1.4 million; and agreed to never perform cardiology procedures or surgeries on Medicare, Medi-Cal or Tricare patients.[14] Moon's medical license was eventually revoked in 2007 for gross negligence, among other charges. Realyvasquez is still practicing in California.[15]

Corapi was awarded $2,712,281 (USD) for his role as a whistleblower in the False Claims Act Lawsuit as well as the $500,000 USD he and his friend were awarded for the insurance case they filed.[16] His involvement as a whistle-blower in the federal investigation of the practices in the Redding Medical Center played an important role in Stephen Klaidman's non-fiction book Coronary.

The doctor was a liar and a crook.

Liars need to beware of Fr. Corapi. He will bring the justice.

 

[thereselittleflower]

This is an interesting article.

Father Corapi’s Bombshell

The popular speaker announces plans to leave the priesthood amid an investigation into allegations of misconduct, and his religious superior breaks his silence on the investigation. A Register news analysis.




Read more: [URL="http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/father-corapis-bombshell/#ixzz1PmDGoQr5"]http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/father-corapis-bombshell/#ixzz1PmDGoQr5[/URL]

And yet . God can move mountains ... . . sad he would not wait.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Praise the Lord.

I am so glad that Father Corapi blew the whistle on this scam by wealthy cardiologist who were willing to put people under the knife and perhaps kill them by so doing.

God bless Father Corapi.

Shaking my head. . . . . .

We are to forgive those who do wrong to us, turn the other cheek .. . not take them to court .. . I'm sorry . . this just doesn't sit well with me.


Is this how the Saints of the Church acted? And yet Fr Corapi has taught we are to be preparead to be made saints?

 

[JoabAnias]

Shaking my head. . . . . .

We are to forgive those who do wrong to us, turn the other cheek .. .

Shaking your head? Is that supposed to be ridicule?

We are not called to be victimized by fruads and not report the crime. By doing so we permit the criminal to victimize more people. We can still forgive and do the right thing.

1807 Justice is the moral virtue that consists in the constant and firm will to give their due to God and neighbor. Justice toward God is called the "virtue of religion." Justice toward men disposes one to respect the rights of each and to establish in human relationships the harmony that promotes equity with regard to persons and to the common good. The just man, often mentioned in the Sacred Scriptures, is distinguished by habitual right thinking and the uprightness of his conduct toward his neighbor. "You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor." "Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven."

 

[Virgil the Roman]

Gloria Patri for Fr Corapi.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Shaking your head? Is that supposed to be ridicule?

We are not called to be victimized by fruads and not report the crime. By doing so we permit the criminal to victimize more people. We can still forgive and do the right thing.

1807 Justice is the moral virtue that consists in the constant and firm will to give their due to God and neighbor. Justice toward God is called the "virtue of religion." Justice toward men disposes one to respect the rights of each and to establish in human relationships the harmony that promotes equity with regard to persons and to the common good. The just man, often mentioned in the Sacred Scriptures, is distinguished by habitual right thinking and the uprightness of his conduct toward his neighbor. "You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor." "Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven."

Did the saints behave in this way to address wrongs?

 

[BAFRIEND]

creating all this drama

good going corapi- hope you sell a lot of books

cute how he just happens to mention his book during his sob resignation letter

 

[thereselittleflower]

creating all this drama

good going corapi- hope you sell a lot of books

cute how he just happens to mention his book during his sob resignation letter

Guys, what BA is pointing out here, even if you don't like how, is really important.

Be careful about idolizing any man.

 

[Virgil the Roman]

His book may be a potential source for personal revenue generation on his part. It may or may not be negative. If he is suspended, perhaps his priestly income is curbed or otherwise severely restricted; if such is the case, perhaps additional supplementary income is needed? I do not know . . . ? It is viewing things in more positive perspective; rather than from that of a negative one.

 

[BAFRIEND]

His book may be a potential source for personal revenue generation on his part. It may or may not be negative. If he is suspended, perhaps his priestly income is curbed or otherwise severely restricted; if such is the case, perhaps additional supplementary income is needed? I do not know . . . ? It is viewing things in more positive perspective; rather than from that of a negative one.

look, before these allegations of sex and drug abuse came about

this guy was making 3 grand a pop plus expenses just for saying mass and public speaking- which is supposed to be his job in the first place

that does not even include whatever he was getting from marketing and whatever ewtn was paying it

now this guy owns a ranch in montana- i dont know what his diocese was paying him, but it did not sound like he was doing much in his own diocese

maybe the bishop decided to put the brakes on all this- i think if corapi was in my diocese, flying all over the country and doing marketing enterprises; even as a lay person i would be extremely annoyed

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

look, before these allegations of sex and drug abuse came about

this guy was making 3 grand a pop plus expenses just for saying mass and public speaking- which is supposed to be his job in the first place

that does not even include whatever he was getting from marketing and whatever ewtn was paying it

now this guy owns a ranch in montana- i dont know what his diocese was paying him, but it did not sound like he was doing much in his own diocese

maybe the bishop decided to put the brakes on all this- i think if corapi was in my diocese, flying all over the country and doing marketing enterprises; even as a lay person i would be extremely annoyed

if he was part of a religious order, which he is, then the money would go to them.

 

[thereselittleflower]

if he was part of a religious order, which he is, then the money would go to them.

How does that fit in with what BA said?

Santa Cruz Media, Inc. is the owner of all of Fr. John Corapi’s intellectual property and the DVDs, CDs, and books that flow from it. We are a secular corporation and not affiliated with the Catholic Church in any way. As such, we are not under the jurisdiction of any bishop or other official in the Catholic Church, although we have the utmost respect for Church authority.


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Fr Corapi benefits directly from all sales of his material.

 

[JoabAnias]

Did the saints behave in this way to address wrongs?

Yes some saints were very just. St. Peter would have chopped up roman soldiers with a sword, a sword that Jesus told him to bring to the grotto, had Jesus himself not stopped him after striking an ear. Wasn't it also he who struck down a liar in Acts? St. John the Baptist and St Paul both defended themselves to the death. St Paul before many courts before his demise. If you recall, it was the evil of a woman that was the down fall of John the Baptist as well. Women are capable of vindictive calumny, I've seen such pathology first hand. That potential injustice hasn't been ruled out yet. I grant you, Fr. Corapi is no St Pio with submission but that doesn't mean he isn't being guided toward justice with wisdom from God, especially if he is innocent. The Bishop may be his superior but isn't infallible and this accusation is being treated under the zero tolerance policy when it doesn't fit that criteria. There is two ways of looking at it as far as I can see. Each equally probable atm. If he has been calumniated then according to the CCC, justice demands he get his due. If the Bishop is unwilling, he may reason there is no other alternative for justice. I can't speak for him and whats going on but I will wait for the facts before making assumptions.

 

[JoabAnias]

creating all this drama

good going corapi- hope you sell a lot of books

Look, he didn't accuse himself so he may not have created anything, unless he turns out to be guilty of what he denies, so such spin is premature to say the least.

Only gossips cause drama.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Yes some saints were very just. St. Peter would have chopped up roman soldiers with a sword, a sword that Jesus told him to bring to the grotto, had Jesus himself not stopped him after striking an ear.

LOL Joab come on, Jesus stopped him, and Peter was not yet a saint, and the Great Commission had not even yet been given.

This is no proof of anything.

St. John the Baptist and St Paul both defended themselves to the death.

They were only in court when brought as one of the accused. These were opportunities for them to witness to the Truth and God before rulers, not to point the finger at someone else and say "They wronged me."

Show me where they were the accusers in a secular court of law. You will not find one instance.

St Paul before many courts before his demise.

As defense or as plaintif?

As defnse Joab. . . this has absolutely nothing at all to do with Fr Corapi's case for he has not been hauled before the secular court to defend himself.

HE is talking about his civil rights. - and since he has not been taken to court, that means he intends to use the secular law to protect his civil rights, which means taking the accuser to court, and becoming the accuser himself. something Paul NEVER did.

If you recall, it was the evil of a woman that was the down fall of John the Baptist as well. Women are capable of vindictive calumny, I've seen such pathology first hand.

Did John the Baptist take her to court?

Joab. . . do you realize you are barking up the wrong tree here?

That potential injustice hasn't been ruled out any yet. I grant you, Fr. Corapi is no St Pio with the submission but that doesn't mean he isn't being guided toward justice with wisdom from God, especially if he is innocent.

When someone acts in a way totally contary to the example we have from the Saints, and totally in contradiction to Christ's own teaching how is it defensable?

This is basic Christian teaching. Why are we going over this?


What does Jesus COMMAND us to do when we are beset by the evil of another?

MATTHEW 5

38“You have heard that it was said, ‘AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.’ 39“But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40“If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. 41“Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two.
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That is a COMMAND - DO NOT RESIST AN EVIL PERSON.

God does not change His instructions to us . . and God does not lead someone to do the opposite fo what He has commanded christians observe.

What does that mean, not to resist?

The Greek word translated "resist" means:

Lexicon Results
Strong's G436 - anthistēmi
ἀνθίστημι
Transliteration

anthistēmi

Pronunciation

än-thē'-stā-mē (Key)


Part of Speech

verb


Root Word (Etymology)

From ἀντί (G473) and ἵστημι (G2476)​

TDNT Reference

n/a​

Vines

View Entry​

Outline of Biblical Usage
1) to set one's self against, to withstand, resist, oppose
2) to set against


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This we are NEVER to do.


What else did Jesus say?

Matthew 5

1 AND seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain, and when he was set down, his disciples came unto him. 2 And opening his mouth, he taught them, saying:

3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are the meek: for they shall possess the land.
5 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
6 Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill.
7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God.
9 Blesses are the peacemakers: for they shall be called children of God.
10 Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye when they shall revile you, and persecute you, and speak all that is evil against you, untruly, for my sake:
12 Be glad and rejoice, for your reward is very great in heaven. For so they persecuted the prophets that were before you.
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This is how we are instructed by Christ to deal with such situations. We are not to resist an evil person . we are to count it all joy when such things happen to us, not take people to court.

Yet here are people defending someone doing so against God's clear instructions to the contrary.


Christ then commands:

48 Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.
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There is no room, in Christ's teaching, or the examples of the Saints, for Fr. Corapi's actions. I am sorry. He is following man's ways, not God's.


He stands to loose a great deal of money through future sales and fees if he cannot clear his name.

As much as I hate to say it, the old addage is true

"Follow the money"
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And it's becoming more and more clear this is the bottom line, and more important than following Christ's commands above and this:

Matthew 10:38 and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.


Luke 9:23 Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.


Luke 14:27 And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
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Fr Corapi is not denying himself at all here. . he is very much protecting himself, seeing to it that he is taken care of, that his good name is preserved (- it has a lot of monetary value), the opposite of what Jesus has consistantly taught.

The Bishop may be his superior but isn't infallible and this accusation is being treated under the zero tolerance policy when it doesn't fit that criteria.

And that has been disputed by one who has been intimately involved in such proceedings.


Now, if the Bishop did indeed try to do so, Fr Corapi has the ability to appeal to those above the Bishop, but he has decided not to.

So something is very wrong with this picture.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Look, he didn't accuse himself so he may not have created anything, unless he turns out to be guilty of what he denies, so such spin is premature to say the least.

Only gossips cause drama.

And that's EXACTLY what he's done! HE HAS GOSSIPED about his case in the public venue, he has GOSSIPED about the Bishops and their "intentions" - He has accused THE BISHOPS Joab, and to the public, claiming their actions AND MAL INTENT have forced him to resign from his duties as priest. He is the one going to the public to air his complaints and have the Bishops tried by public opinion. No one else, This is HIS decision and HIS action.

He has most definitely created drama.

 

[JoabAnias]

So something is very wrong with this picture.

I don't think you correctly understand how justice works but your probably right, something is wrong. Most anyone can see that. Its still not wrong to defend yourself from calumny when its libel, even if you have to make a civil suit. I know lots of priests would think that way.

Let just chalk it up to his fame if you like. He was a buisness guy before his conversion and even found ways to capitalize while being a priest. If he wasn't a priest he would already have this accuser in court and probably no one would care. Thats the American way and he is quite macho after all. He even rides a harley. Why would you expect a St Pio out of him? Just because he is highly trained and knowlegeble of the faith and ordained? There are lots of us who know our Church and still fall far short of every virtue in practice. In fact, I'd wager we all do. God may very well leading him to another life lesson. Time will tell.