2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts;
2Ti 4:4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto fables.
Paul wrote this, I'm sure with tears in his heart, knowing that in the centuries to come men would turn from the truth, and sure enough, by the 400's men had turned to fables, and brought pagan beliefs into the Church. And so came the Dark Ages....
Yes, and I'm positive that he had false doctrines such as
Universalism in mind which lead people to a false sense of
spiritual complacency that they'll all end up in heaven at the
end anyways and would have no reason to know the true and
Living God becuz they don't care about His sacrifice.
I'm sure He envisioned the Rich man scenario in his mind over
and over again as people were in torment due to their separation
from God becuz they refused to believe in faith and recieve so
great a sacrifice from Jesus Christ who COULD HAVE pardoned
them thru their faith.
Once God is proven in the afterlife with no more doubts about it,
"FAITH" is off the table. And salvation is thru FAITH, not standing
at a judgment throne trying to get out of what they know is
coming.
TODAY is the day of salvation - while they are alive.
Hentenza is also correct in using the scripture that it's appointed
for us once to die, then judgment.
And that is supported perfectly by the Revelation account -
where they are not seen getting out again, the only one getting
out of Gehenna over time is Satan, and that's to allow him an
opportunity to put another generation to the test once they've
tasted of God's goodness.
Why is there no mention of the unrepentant lost getting out there???
(where it SHOULD be taught clearly for such a hugely important
doctrine!!) :o :o :o (if it were true)...
Orthodox teachers have added pagan myths through the carnality and darkness of their own minds, and now at the end of time, when the Church should be a shining light, she stills clings to the darkness of the past...such is the power of tradition
Pagan myths?
How about the MYTH that people repent & get saved after they
reach Gehenna!
Maybe you can find this
'true doctrine' in Revelation where it
explains the judgment and restoration collectively.
Can you find me that ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE where people
are repenting AFTER judgment and God comes back to review
their pleadings & conversions?
Then lets them out and releases them with the Saints?
I'd love to see your doctrine
spelled out instead of READ IN
everywhere you want to redefine word meanings and rip
scriptures out of their contexts.
And as another poster asked, why in the world is Satan re-released
to test later generations at all if they all get into heaven anyways?
How pointless could God get? (and cruel to boot).
Lastly again, let me rehearse this ideal for you - since so many
Uvi's like to attack us "fire & brimstone/fear" folks:
Universalism teaches an identical fear factor/ and torment factor
since they claim that it's AFTER people pay for their sins that they
repent & get back out.
That is putting them thru torment and thru their fear and pain,
THEY REPENT? Sorry, but that's not any different than those
you attack.
Further, if they pay for their sins they didn't repent of, then they're
being paid for twice; once by Jesus and then on their own account.
Since when are sins paid twice?
And how does MAN pay for sin at all?
The serious problems with this false doctrine abound.
