Universal Salvation - Did you know that this is at the core of the Gospel?

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No they do so willingly. Remember it says they do it to the Glory of God. Do you really think you can glorify God with insincere confession?

Nothing in God's Word says they willingly turn to God to be saved, ever in life, and never after life.

God is Glorified by all of His Word being accomplished as HE SAYS, not as you believe.

(this includes past family members and friends who died in unbelief - they perish without hope)

 

[Hewillcome2040]

EXCEPT what you believe, what you have already posted that you believe.

So perhaps, other things you think you understand are also opposed to the Word of God, not built on Him.

I have decided to ignore you since I only have time to debate a reasoned and rational debate with those that are looking up the data and checking it themselves.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

looking up the data and checking it themselves.

"data" !?
Instead of God's Word you rely on data !?

Everyone who has already looked up GOD'S WORD knows your "data" is false.
I ALREADY read GOD'S WORD and HE graciously granted HIS understanding of His Word as He must do for anyone to understand anything,
and HIS WORD exposes your "data" all the time, every day.

 

[SkyWriting]

But at the core of those great commandments is the message of Universal Salvation. You see there is no reasons to love others as yourselves (including your enemies) if they are not also going to be saved.

What I'm sure you mean to say is there is no reason to love anybody,
since they and you will all be saved no matter what.

 

[Hewillcome2040]

Then you believe in something other than the word of God. The most unfortunate thing is you have a lot of company.

Who is my company

What I'm sure you mean to say is there is no reason to love anybody,
since they and you will all be saved no matter what.

Do you believe God finishes what He started?
Do you believe God is the giver of Life?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Do you believe God is the giver of Life?

As the CREATOR of ALL LIFE, He is also the JUDGE and EXECUTIONER in Perfect Justice and Righteousness, as His Word Says.

 

[Phil 1:21]

Who is my company

The first sentence answers your question regarding the second.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The first sentence answers your question regarding the second.

For clarity, (agreeing), do you mean as written in God's Word, "the world [sinful] loves its own [wickedness]" . Thus they have a lot of 'company' on the wide road to "destruction" (not the narrow road to life) ....

 

[Hewillcome2040]

The first sentence answers your question regarding the second.

Hi Phil, going to put you on my ignore list while I continue to discuss with others. I just have short time so I need to only discuss with others that are being respectful of my words otherwise they mean nothing.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

.... the LIGHT came into the world, and the world loved the darkness rather than the LIGHT, because their deeds were evil .....

 

[SkyWriting]

As I have shown my whole understanding is built on the foundation of the Word of God.

That's misleading since you've not even mentioned it.
But here you can do the research. Glancing over it
I didn't see anything to support your claim. But I may have missed it.
Bible Search: foundation

 

[TuxAme]

The belief in universal salvation is misinformed at best, heretical at worst. There's nothing in Scripture or Tradition which suggests that everyone will be saved. This hope has no basis in any authoritative Christian document, and one has to seriously twist Scripture to try and make it seem that way.

If everyone will be saved, there is no point in living as a Christian.

 

[Hewillcome2040]

That's misleading since you've not even mentioned it.
But here you can do the research. Glancing over it
I didn't see anything to support your claim. But I may have missed it.
Bible Search: foundation

Do you believe God finishes what He started?
Do you believe God is the giver of Life?

 

[Hewillcome2040]

The belief in universal salvation is misinformed at best, heretical at worst. There's nothing in Scripture or Tradition which suggests that everyone will be saved. This hope has no basis in any authoritative Christian document, and one has to seriously twist Scripture to try and make it seem that way.

If everyone will be saved, there is no point in living as a Christian.

The belief in universal salvation is misinformed at best, heretical at worst. There's nothing in Scripture or Tradition which suggests that everyone will be saved. This hope has no basis in any authoritative Christian document, and one has to seriously twist Scripture to try and make it seem that way.

If everyone will be saved, there is no point in living as a Christian.

Do you believe God finishes what He started?
Do you believe God is the giver of Life?

 

[SkyWriting]

Do you believe God finishes what He started?
Do you believe God is the giver of Life?

Oh, so your going on my word as Gospel?
I don't suggest it.
Besides, I only have time to debate a reasoned and rational debate with those that are looking up the scripture and checking it themselves.
Bible Search: foundation

 

[SkyWriting]

If everyone will be saved, there is no point in living as a Christian.

Well, no point in outreach. Not killing others allows for more conversation and company.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The belief in universal salvation is misinformed at best, heretical at worst. There's nothing in Scripture or Tradition which suggests that everyone will be saved. This hope has no basis in any authoritative Christian document, and one has to seriously twist Scripture to try and make it seem that way.

If everyone will be saved, there is no point in living as a Christian.

BUT,
if (as falsely claimed) everyone will some day even after death be saved,
THEN people are FREE TO SIN, and their relatives and friends who passed away without repentance won't be tossed in the lake of fire.

Thus, [some of] the [possible]incentive in the world to believe everyone will be saved no matter what - people could then just go on being selfish and adulterous and idolatrous and death dealing and dead in their trespasses and sin without worry.

 

[Phil 1:21]

For clarity, (agreeing), do you mean as written in God's Word, "the world [sinful] loves its own [wickedness]" . Thus they have a lot of 'company' on the wide road to "destruction" (not the narrow road to life) ....

Pretty much. The world is full of people who would rather worship gods of their own creation.

 

[Phil 1:21]

The belief in universal salvation is misinformed at best, heretical at worst. There's nothing in Scripture or Tradition which suggests that everyone will be saved. This hope has no basis in any authoritative Christian document, and one has to seriously twist Scripture to try and make it seem that way.

If everyone will be saved, there is no point in living as a Christian.

Satan's very first temptation was to get people to question the word of God. Little has changed since then.

 

[Hewillcome2040]

Oh, so your going on my word as Gospel?
I don't suggest it.
Besides, I only have time to debate a reasoned and rational debate with those that are looking up the scripture and checking it themselves.
Bible Search: foundation

Here are those questions again:

Do you believe God finishes what He started?
Do you believe God is the giver of Life?