Understanding why the SDA church is God's remnant church of Revelation....

[Castaway57]

This is what I was referring to when I said I am not sure how one would prove it from the Bible..

"Now we all know that a woman represent a church but the seed is not a woman so it is not a church."

If a "woman" is a church, in Bible prophecy, and that "woman" has a daughter, or (seed) why wouldn't it be a church too? What else would it be?

There is nothing in scripture to support a church being relegated by symbolism to just a particular gender. Lets say a "woman" has a baby. The woman is a human, and the baby will be a human. So here in Bible prophecy, which is always logical, is a church. if that church has (seed) or children, they too will also be a church.

 

[stinsonmarri]

Castaway:​

You stated:​

If a "woman" is a church, in Bible prophecy, and that "woman" has a daughter, or (seed) why wouldn't it be a church too? What else would it be? ​

Both men and women of all nation, tongues and kindred that is what it would be.

There is nothing in scripture to support a church being relegated by symbolism to just a particular gender. Let's say a "woman" has a baby. The woman is a human, and the baby will be a human. So here in Bible prophecy, which is always logical, is a church. if that church has (seed) or children, they too will also be a church.

I truly believe that all truth can be proven by Scriptures even symbols. The woman is the gender to symbolize the church and the Bible is where we can find the answer to all truth.​

For the husband is the head of the wife, even as YASHUA is the head of the church: and HE is the SAVIOR of the body. Eph 5:23 ​

What better correlation Paul gives that the husband which a man is the leader in his household. Paul then symbolizes that the church is like a woman.​

Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the YAHWEH. For thy Maker is thine husband; the YAHWEH of Hosts is HIS Name; and thy REDEEMER the HOLY ONE of Israel; The ELOHIM of the whole earth shall he be called. Isa. 54:1, 5 ​

I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman. Jer. 6:2

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with CHILD cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of ELOHIM that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the MAN CHILD. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the Commandments of ELOHIM, and have the Testimony of YASHUA the MESSIAH. Rev 12:1, 2, 6, 13, 14, 16, 17

As I have stated the Bible reveals that a woman being the church would be protected first for YAHWEH'S Son and then HIS people. However the Bible shows that the woman/church is not the focal point at the end of time but her seed. All churches at one time was nourished and kept by YAHWEH for her message. However, the church apostatized continually but as the Bible said, the wheat growing in the church with the tares had to be carefully separated. Who is this wheat? It is first those called out of the Laodiceans Church this is the last recognized church. However, there are sheep/wheat that are from other churches, and other types of religions and non-religions that must be called as well. These are all seeds that are sustained by the nourishments (HOLY SPIRIT) send by ELOHIM.​

Be Bless and YAHWEH please bless President Obama,
stinsonmarri

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by stinsonmarri To All:

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the Commandments of ELOHIM, and have the Testimony of YASHUA the MESSIAH. Rev 12:17

Now we all know that a woman represent a church but the seed is not a woman so it is not a church.

I am not sure how one would go about proving this from the Bible?

Give it a try

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[stinsonmarri]

Give it a try

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LittleLambofJesus:

I did read my other post.

Blessings and YAHWEH bless President Obama,
stinsonmarri

 

[mog144]

We look at history and we see how the early church let Ghostic doctrine into its manuscripts and apostasy as the church in Rome let the leaders bring in the whole system of pagan worship take over the church. The Dark Age came over the people and the church until finally the Protentant Reformers brought back Gods Word and its truth to the people and the light shined on them and faith rebonded and understanding of Gods Word increased. But then the Reformers passed on and their followers chose to lock on to the men themselves instead of continue unveling the truths contained in Gods Word and solified their understanding into creeds. So then it took all these brethren coming together through the power of God as the Great Awakening stirred them to look deeper into Gods Word and see what further truths and prophecy would be unveiled, and the Adventist movement was born.

The Adventist movement was the beneficiary of all the work of the Reformers, and the faithful safeguarding of Gods Word by true believers as the haters of God persecuted them and tried to destroy any true text by burning every writing or manuscript they could lay hold of. They could burn the body and destroy the lives but the faith of the true believers never went out, and Gods church was kept through the Dark Ages and from its enemies and Gods truth was safeguarded for the end times.

The Seventh-Day Adventist church was given all these truths and the prophecies unveil for it to bring Gods message for the Last Days to those who love him and for the world to hear. Scripture then says...

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The Adventist church teaches Gods Commandments and has the Testimony of Jesus Christ through the Spirit of Prophecy, it is God's remnant church of Revelation and brings the truths for the end times.

Only those who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ will be part of the remnant at the end, so those that do not hold on to this or accept it, cannot be the Remnant. If some brethren pick up strange philosophies, or private interpretations or letting go of the truth or stop believing in the testimonies given through the Spirit of Prophecy, even a hardening of the heart against the truth that they once loved, how can they be part of the Remnant of Revelation? Each one individually has to chose and accept the truth given to them.

Have you ever really studied or just copy and paste from E.G.W.?
Examine the time of Ellen and also the First Lady of that era; Sarah Polk (1845-1849) and note from which faiths they were before the foundation of the SDA church in 1863.

Both women were devout in their faiths, Ellen a Methodist and Sarah a Presbyterian. It will take a great effort to cover all grounds in this investigation so I'll tell you a little of my discovery. A great deal of evidence is not available as I fear that much has been covered up to hide the truths.

The two women were very close friends, bet you didn't know that, eh?
These two women are the REAL Twin Pillars of the SDA faith, they have no relation with our Father in Heaven. The SDA doctrines are derived from their two faiths, and the 66 canon Protestant Bible was then pumped out in numbers by new founded printing presses along with E.G.W. writings.

Study those two faiths today and compare with the SDA congregation, there's hardly a difference except for Sabbath "day" observance. These two women advocated Women's Liberation in 1848, and you refuse to accept this.

Now, consider the death of William Miller in Dec 1849, during the last year that Sarah was in Office as First Lady. Where does the First Lady get this Title? She gets it from the Creation Record, the FIRST day of the Second week following the Creation account.

This is the hidden substitute for the Sunday Law Crisis. There will not be a SLC because the observance of Sunday is placed on the Woman, not the day.

The entire world is worshipping the beast in two diverse ways but both pay homage to satan. One way is hidden spiritually and the other is actual "Day" harlot-ship.

The reason that people cannot see this is because evidence has been hidden to deceive God's supposed remnant.

Have you ever considered the Head wound that Ellen suffered as an 8 year old girl? How uncanny is this? The Papacy receives a deadly head wound (spiritually) and does live, and Ellen suffers a deadly head wound (literally) and does live. Scientists and Neuro-specialists examined Ellen's head and frontal lobes to see how it was possible that she lived.

They say that the impact of the stone was so intense that it damaged her frontal lobes, plaging her with a life of seizures, which she experienced on many occasions even in Church. Her own husband has given account to this and it is recorded in historical documents but you won't find them in the SDA archives because they don't want to advertise this.

The doctors say that the impact on her head was as if she was hanging her head outside of a speeding car and then hitting a tree trunk on impact. They still yet today have no clue as to how she survived it. She did live but she is now dead, as well.

 

[mmksparbud]

Have you ever really studied or just copy and paste from E.G.W.?
Examine the time of Ellen and also the First Lady of that era; Sarah Polk (1845-1849) and note from which faiths they were before the foundation of the SDA church in 1863.

Both women were devout in their faiths, Ellen a Methodist and Sarah a Presbyterian. It will take a great effort to cover all grounds in this investigation so I'll tell you a little of my discovery. A great deal of evidence is not available as I fear that much has been covered up to hide the truths.

The two women were very close friends, bet you didn't know that, eh?
These two women are the REAL Twin Pillars of the SDA faith, they have no relation with our Father in Heaven. The SDA doctrines are derived from their two faiths, and the 66 canon Protestant Bible was then pumped out in numbers by new founded printing presses along with E.G.W. writings.

Study those two faiths today and compare with the SDA congregation, there's hardly a difference except for Sabbath "day" observance. These two women advocated Women's Liberation in 1848, and you refuse to accept this.

Now, consider the death of William Miller in Dec 1849, during the last year that Sarah was in Office as First Lady. Where does the First Lady get this Title? She gets it from the Creation Record, the FIRST day of the Second week following the Creation account.

This is the hidden substitute for the Sunday Law Crisis. There will not be a SLC because the observance of Sunday is placed on the Woman, not the day.

The entire world is worshipping the beast in two diverse ways but both pay homage to satan. One way is hidden spiritually and the other is actual "Day" harlot-ship.

The reason that people cannot see this is because evidence has been hidden to deceive God's supposed remnant.

Have you ever considered the Head wound that Ellen suffered as an 8 year old girl? How uncanny is this? The Papacy receives a deadly head wound (spiritually) and does live, and Ellen suffers a deadly head wound (literally) and does live. Scientists and Neuro-specialists examined Ellen's head and frontal lobes to see how it was possible that she lived.

They say that the impact of the stone was so intense that it damaged her frontal lobes, plaging her with a life of seizures, which she experienced on many occasions even in Church. Her own husband has given account to this and it is recorded in historical documents but you won't find them in the SDA archives because they don't want to advertise this.

The doctors say that the impact on her head was as if she was hanging her head outside of a speeding car and then hitting a tree trunk on impact. They still yet today have no clue as to how she survived it. She did live but she is now dead, as well.

You must stay up nights making up this stuff---In the Boston Courier in 1843 Martha Washington was called the first Lady of the nation. But it was not till 1860--Harriet Lane, the niece of bachelor President, James Buchannen was the first woman to be called The First Lady as a title that stuck and used for all first Ladies.
"The doctors say that the impact on her head was as if she was hanging her head outside of a speeding car and then hitting a tree trunk"---What doctors are you refering to and what year?? Better make it good--cause a sppeding car when EGW was 13 wasn't around. The first carriage-sized car suitable for use on existing roads was invented in 1871. The fastest any car got in 1879 was the winner of a race clocked at a whopping 6 miles an hour.

 

[mog144]

You must stay up nights making up this stuff---In the Boston Courier in 1843 Martha Washington was called the first Lady of the nation. But it was not till 1860--Harriet Lane, the niece of bachelor President, James Buchannen was the first woman to be called The First Lady as a title that stuck and used for all first Ladies.
"The doctors say that the impact on her head was as if she was hanging her head outside of a speeding car and then hitting a tree trunk"---What doctors are you refering to and what year?? Better make it good--cause a sppeding car when EGW was 13 wasn't around. The first carriage-sized car suitable for use on existing roads was invented in 1871. The fastest any car got in 1879 was the winner of a race clocked at a whopping 6 miles an hour.

Seriously, yes, I do stay up long hours working for my Father as I am a Watchman as we are instructed to be meditating on His WORD in our wake hours. I apologize if my lifestyle deems inappropriate to you.

The reference to a speeding car is exactly as implied, a "reference" as in "comparison." Any adult should know these things as common knowledge.

Here's the link that will explain what I repeated here. Throw the stone at them, I'm just the messenger, not Ellen.

http://www.ellenwhiteexposed.com/headinjury.htm

 

[mog144]

You must stay up nights making up this stuff---In the Boston Courier in 1843 Martha Washington was called the first Lady of the nation. But it was not till 1860--Harriet Lane, the niece of bachelor President, James Buchannen was the first woman to be called The First Lady as a title that stuck and used for all first Ladies.
"The doctors say that the impact on her head was as if she was hanging her head outside of a speeding car and then hitting a tree trunk"---What doctors are you refering to and what year?? Better make it good--cause a sppeding car when EGW was 13 wasn't around. The first carriage-sized car suitable for use on existing roads was invented in 1871. The fastest any car got in 1879 was the winner of a race clocked at a whopping 6 miles an hour.

Sarah Polk First Lady
Sarah Polk Biography :: National First Ladies' Library

Edit: BTW, Your argument about the First Lady title is actually futile because the point that I make was already established in Eden when satan made his "First Lady" as also the first day in the week and also as SUNday whorship.

 

[mog144]

You must stay up nights making up this stuff---In the Boston Courier in 1843 Martha Washington was called the first Lady of the nation. But it was not till 1860--Harriet Lane, the niece of bachelor President, James Buchannen was the first woman to be called The First Lady as a title that stuck and used for all first Ladies.
"The doctors say that the impact on her head was as if she was hanging her head outside of a speeding car and then hitting a tree trunk"---What doctors are you refering to and what year?? Better make it good--cause a sppeding car when EGW was 13 wasn't around. The first carriage-sized car suitable for use on existing roads was invented in 1871. The fastest any car got in 1879 was the winner of a race clocked at a whopping 6 miles an hour.

Please, I noticed more errors in your reply, Ellen was 8 and the girl that threw the stone was 13. The girl was running at fast speed when the stone departed from her hand, while just before the impact, Ellen confessed to turn around to see where the girl was and then the stone made impact. The combined ratios of momentum equaled a rate much higher than that of standing still in comparison to running.

Edited for emphasis...
The point is to note the parallels between the Papacy head wound and Ellen's head wound. Both significant figures in the religious arena.

 

[mmksparbud]

Well, actually, she was 9--both wrong---now, instead of looking at a bunch of literature put out by anti-EGW folks--why not just look up frontal lobe head injuries and occipital lobe injuries??---They have a world of info. Occipital lobe injuries are difficult to obtain as they are buried deep within the brain, thus providing some protection. Now, I will not pretend to be an expert in this area, all I can do is read, which I have, many articles over the years. Having been in the medical field for over 27 years, I have had occassion to deal with patients who have had severe head injuries.
Yes, there can be visual disturbances--they ussually consist of color discrepencies, or even lack of color, and often even blindness. Hallucinations can occur and usually consist of problems with the size of objects--smaller or larger than actual. There can be physical strength problems, becoming very weak, unco-ordinated, depression, and emotional disturbances including severe anger, and sexual problems. Epileptic seizures can also occur--I've been around many of those.

In all of my reading of these injuries,and of being around people with them, not one was ever mentioned of having the strength to hold a heavy bible in one uplifted hand for over 30 min--can't happen, they are weak. Not one has mentioned hallucinations about a colorful world, or of hearing the voice of God or any other angelic host. In short--I have not read, nor personally seen one patient with the "hallucinations" that EGW experienced. They have had such a hard time with language that it's like talking to a child--certainly not a single patient ever wrote more than one book (after healing) much less the sheer volume of books she wrote. The language skills were simply not there. Quite often, quite often, the speach center is affected--they will cuss up a blue streak that would make a sailor blush! From children to sweet little old ladies have sprung forth such verbal cussing that one old gent simpoly fainted upon hearing his sweet wife utter such words--in 39 years of marriage, she had never said anything more severe than "dang."
I'm tired, so I'm cutting this short--I suggest you sleep more.

 

[mog144]

Well, actually, she was 9--both wrong---now, instead of looking at a bunch of literature put out by anti-EGW folks--why not just look up frontal lobe head injuries and occipital lobe injuries??---They have a world of info. Occipital lobe injuries are difficult to obtain as they are buried deep within the brain, thus providing some protection. Now, I will not pretend to be an expert in this area, all I can do is read, which I have, many articles over the years. Having been in the medical field for over 27 years, I have had occassion to deal with patients who have had severe head injuries.
Yes, there can be visual disturbances--they ussually consist of color discrepencies, or even lack of color, and often even blindness. Hallucinations can occur and usually consist of problems with the size of objects--smaller or larger than actual. There can be physical strength problems, becoming very weak, unco-ordinated, depression, and emotional disturbances including severe anger, and sexual problems. Epileptic seizures can also occur--I've been around many of those.

In all of my reading of these injuries,and of being around people with them, not one was ever mentioned of having the strength to hold a heavy bible in one uplifted hand for over 30 min--can't happen, they are weak. Not one has mentioned hallucinations about a colorful world, or of hearing the voice of God or any other angelic host. In short--I have not read, nor personally seen one patient with the "hallucinations" that EGW experienced. They have had such a hard time with language that it's like talking to a child--certainly not a single patient ever wrote more than one book (after healing) much less the sheer volume of books she wrote. The language skills were simply not there. Quite often, quite often, the speach center is affected--they will cuss up a blue streak that would make a sailor blush! From children to sweet little old ladies have sprung forth such verbal cussing that one old gent simpoly fainted upon hearing his sweet wife utter such words--in 39 years of marriage, she had never said anything more severe than "dang."
I'm tired, so I'm cutting this short--I suggest you sleep more.

I do appreciate your reflection on her diagnosis. As I said, I only repeated what is publicly available. I was an SDA for 10 intense years and involved in the church staff and know it fairly well.

There is one thing that is uncanny though, the Vatican suffered a spiritual deadly head wound and lived.
Ellen physically suffered a deadly head wound and lived.
I thought to point to the parallel of the two, that's the bottom line, my whole point. Perhaps you might consider it someday.

God bless you all!

 

[mmksparbud]

I do appreciate your reflection on her diagnosis. As I said, I only repeated what is publicly available. Remember, I was an SDA for 10 intense years involved in the church staff and know it fairly well. I even lost my SDA wife after she became a member. She was cheating on me, she worked in the School and was using a bungalow for meetings on weekends when she was supposedly working overtime. I walked up on her and another man during a Sabbath luncheon, I heard them making plans to meet on Sunday.

It's in the past and it doesn't bother me, really because she is her own soul and her destination is her choice. I wouldn't compromise my faith for a life of sharing, she discovered that we were unequally yoked and left. I prayed to my Father and said, Father, if she's cheating on me, then I want her out of my life, she secretly moved out 2 weeks later and left me a note,

She began drinking and smoking heavily, her focus on fashion and appearance increased and the wall of division grew taller as she was then as living with a roommate rather than a wife. She even contracted an std after she supposedly had breakfast with a couple of friends at a cafe... she hid it from me but I figured her out... she never invited me to accompany her. She made a scene in restaurants and public places when she'd blurt out something profane against me, loud enough for others to hear as if she was determined to embarrass me in public to make me out a fool.

Eventually she left without any confrontations because I never accused her, she didn't know that I knew, she just couldn't bear hearing any prayer, even at the dinner table, she even stopped praying with me. My faith grew stronger while her's drifted apart and it was after she became a member and began working for the Church School.

She certainly was converted after her Baptism as it was shortly after that when all of this began. She seemed to have taken on another spirit than the one before. I didn't know her as the woman I once knew.

I lost all faith in your church as I have seen this with other members as well. There's no difference between your church or the local corner chapel.

I'm not trying to offend you but telling you the facts that led me into this investigation of history and the church, and prophecy. But it was after receiving a profound dream in 2007, and it opened my eyes to many things. My life was changed after that. The wife left me 2 years later.

Well, sorry to bore you with my blog...

Well---I can certainly understand the pain of betrayal by a spouse since mine did pretty much the same thing. Only thing is, I had left the church as soon as I left my home (my father had been molesting me since 9)--my stepmother had been devoted SDA, wonderful woman of God who had been suckered in by my dad who, though raised an SDA, never acted like one. It was after my divorce that I came back back to God, and then realized I could never be anything other than an SDA as I had spent my whole life educated in SDA schools and had had to thoroughly investigate all other faiths as part of our bible studies. I had left God, as I was angry with Him, but I never did not belief in Him.God was patient, and gently brought me back. My ex and I became much better friends after I accepted God and came back to church, I was re-baptized and we talked and forgave each other. God healed my broken heart.
You are looking at church members as though they should be perfect--they are human, they are sinners, no one has a perfect church, if there were one, then you and I could never join it as it would immediately become imperfect! I have reason enough to not be an SDA, with my history--but I am one because God helped me to see past the hurt that people inflicted, to see Him and what His word says. Church is where sinners belong, where you will find the most horrible of sinners, that's what it's for. You do not dismiss a hospital because they have a bunch of sick people in there. You choose one because of what they have to help make you well.
I was a dialysis tech for over 20 years--I've seen countless people die on dialysis. Not because the dialysis is bad, it's because most of the people are non-compliant and do what they want and not what is best for them, and because they have other health problems that also bring them down. Nothing will keep you alive forever. I've seen people on dialysis for over 30 years, happy, full lives--and I've seen people live only a couple years, miserable, unhappy--it's not the dialysis. This is a bit simplistic, I know.
We all view life through our own eyes, we see what we look for. My step daughter is a Mormon, because she had a split up family, her mother remarried, her dad married me, we broke up he had other women, her mother found other husbands--she visited some distant family members who were Mormon and they treated her like family and she felt loved and close to them, so she became a Mormon.
I've seen all the stuff written about EGW--I've also researched on my own. I have looked at the data and I choose to believe in her gift. But God is my God, not her, anymore than any of the deciples are our God, they are His messengers and I believe she also is one. God and eternity with Him and Jesus is the goal, not church dogma. But if church dogma helps you to see Him clearer, than it's foolish to turn your back on it. It's the truth that matters, not the people who do not follow it. God bless.

 

[mog144]

Well---I can certainly understand the pain of betrayal by a spouse since mine did pretty much the same thing. Only thing is, I had left the church as soon as I left my home (my father had been molesting me since 9)--my stepmother had been devoted SDA, wonderful woman of God who had been suckered in by my dad who, though raised an SDA, never acted like one. It was after my divorce that I came back back to God, and then realized I could never be anything other than an SDA as I had spent my whole life educated in SDA schools and had had to thoroughly investigate all other faiths as part of our bible studies. I had left God, as I was angry with Him, but I never did not belief in Him.God was patient, and gently brought me back. My ex and I became much better friends after I accepted God and came back to church, I was re-baptized and we talked and forgave each other. God healed my broken heart.
You are looking at church members as though they should be perfect--they are human, they are sinners, no one has a perfect church, if there were one, then you and I could never join it as it would immediately become imperfect! I have reason enough to not be an SDA, with my history--but I am one because God helped me to see past the hurt that people inflicted, to see Him and what His word says. Church is where sinners belong, where you will find the most horrible of sinners, that's what it's for. You do not dismiss a hospital because they have a bunch of sick people in there. You choose one because of what they have to help make you well.
I was a dialysis tech for over 20 years--I've seen countless people die on dialysis. Not because the dialysis is bad, it's because most of the people are non-compliant and do what they want and not what is best for them, and because they have other health problems that also bring them down. Nothing will keep you alive forever. I've seen people on dialysis for over 30 years, happy, full lives--and I've seen people live only a couple years, miserable, unhappy--it's not the dialysis. This is a bit simplistic, I know.
We all view life through our own eyes, we see what we look for. My step daughter is a Mormon, because she had a split up family, her mother remarried, her dad married me, we broke up he had other women, her mother found other husbands--she visited some distant family members who were Mormon and they treated her like family and she felt loved and close to them, so she became a Mormon.
I've seen all the stuff written about EGW--I've also researched on my own. I have looked at the data and I choose to believe in her gift. But God is my God, not her, anymore than any of the deciples are our God, they are His messengers and I believe she also is one. God and eternity with Him and Jesus is the goal, not church dogma. But if church dogma helps you to see Him clearer, than it's foolish to turn your back on it. It's the truth that matters, not the people who do not follow it. God bless.

Thank you for your response. My experience with SDA's has always been the same and I see a pattern of attributes that all seem to share. I notice when somebody other than myself who are in the same faith or a friend will always receive a compassionate response to comfort them but whenever I give testimony of my experience I am kicked like a dog when he's down. This is exactly what I've been investigating.

 

[mmksparbud]

Well, I have a problem with my walk with God---I do not always turn the other cheek--unfortunately, if I'm kicked, I kick back! Been trying to overcome that. Though it did come in handy with my hubby when he was drinking and trying to push me around, send him straight to jail, after I almost broke his jaw--Lord, forgive me. But when you've been raised with 3 older brothers, you learn to defend yourself!!

And I think you missed what I was saying---you're spending your time watching and judging people instead of God and what He has to say to you. They have their own walk to tend to, and some people walk slower than others, in fact, some are crawling, others running towards God. Just keep your eyes on Christ and get going, you may have to help those that are crawling a little, so long as you don't get sidetracked from your own walk. You can't help anyone if you are not strong enough---the past is the past--let it go, forgive those who have hurt you so Christ can forgive you, or you will simply be stuck standing in the same spot.

 

[stinsonmarri]

Seriously, yes, I do stay up long hours working for my Father as I am a Watchman as we are instructed to be meditating on His WORD in our wake hours. I apologize if my lifestyle deems inappropriate to you.

The reference to a speeding car is exactly as implied, a "reference" as in "comparison." Any adult should know these things as common knowledge.

Here's the link that will explain what I repeated here. Throw the stone at them, I'm just the messenger, not Ellen.

Ellen White's Head Injury

Hatred is a killer and false properganda came be made up and people will believe it. Just like the birther folks who will not believe that President was born in America. We are not interested in this false properganda. If you accept it find that's your choice.

And for this cause ELOHIM shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2Th 2:11

Your are delusional my friend and I am sorry you believe the lies of fanitical people. They have no history or facts just made up stuff. I will be praying for you as you pray for me.

By the way we do not need EGW because all the truth she presented is alread found in the Bible. I can provide you anything from the Bible without ever using any of EGW writings.!!!!!

Happy Sabbath and YAHWEH continually bless our President,
stinsonmarri

 

[stinsonmarri]

mmksparbud:​

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May YAHWEH continue to bless you through your ordeal. We all go through so much but that the MOST HIGH you came back. Continue to study and understand the true message that is in the SDA Church.​

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Happy Sabbath and YAHWEH bless President Obama,​

stinsonmarri ​

 

[mmksparbud]

mmksparbud:
May YAHWEH continue to bless you through your ordeal. We all go through so much but that the MOST HIGH you came back. Continue to study and understand the true message that is in the SDA Church.
Happy Sabbath and YAHWEH bless President Obama,
stinsonmarri ​

Thank you and He very much has---
Yahweh needs to bless Obama--I always pray for whomever is in the office. It's just that sometimes I wish I could pray like the Rabbi did in Fiddler on the Roof when he was asked if there's a blessing for the Czar--"May the Lord bless and keep him---far away from us!"
Bible says God appoints whomsoever He will to be rulers over us---And I prefer to not bash (but you got to admit, some of those Obama jokes are funny)--but God did not say we had to be happy about who's ruling over us! Right now, I feel that I will be writing in Daffy Duck for pres. Can't see where he'd do any worse! It's not so clear anymore who the bad guys are---what we have to do is pick the ones that will ruin this country---the slowest!

 

[mog144]

Thank you and He very much has---
Yahweh needs to bless Obama--I always pray for whomever is in the office. It's just that sometimes I wish I could pray like the Rabbi did in Fiddler on the Roof when he was asked if there's a blessing for the Czar--"May the Lord bless and keep him---far away from us!"
Bible says God appoints whomsoever He will to be rulers over us---And I prefer to not bash (but you got to admit, some of those Obama jokes are funny)--but God did not say we had to be happy about who's ruling over us! Right now, I feel that I will be writing in Daffy Duck for pres. Can't see where he'd do any worse! It's not so clear anymore who the bad guys are---what we have to do is pick the ones that will ruin this country---the slowest!

Another interesting story is "The Wicker Man"

 

[ricker]

By the way we do not need EGW because all the truth she presented is alread found in the Bible. I can provide you anything from the Bible without ever using any of EGW writings.!!!!!

Happy Sabbath and YAHWEH continually bless our President,
stinsonmarri

Yes, lots of folks are irrational about Obama!

BTW, no one in the two thousand odd years of Christian Bible study discovered the Investigative Judgement idea, or the Sabbath being the Mark of the Beast just using the Bible. You can attempt to justify those ideas using the Bible, but they are certainly not explicit teachings anyone could find without the idea first being put out by a third party.

 

[mmksparbud]

Yes, lots of folks are irrational about Obama!

BTW, no one in the two thousand odd years of Christian Bible study discovered the Investigative Judgement idea, or the Sabbath being the Mark of the Beast just using the Bible. You can attempt to justify those ideas using the Bible, but they are certainly not explicit teachings anyone could find without the idea first being put out by a third party.

How wrong you are----If you take all the characteristics of the beast, all that is said about it, read Daniel,and make a graph and put in what years some stuff happened--and it's the only thing you can come up with. History is history. I'm not going to put everything in here--too much for my back, maybe someone else can--and you need to study the sanctuary service, what each procedure meant and pointed to. And what Rev. says about Christ our High Priest. It all fits. And you do not need to open anything written by EGW about it. Just have to do a little research on some historical dates which are easier found today , what with the internet, then ever before.