Oncedeceived
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Ok, here's why you are very, very wrong. Pay attention and learn.
Here's the original statement you made to which I took objection:
LOGICAL. You argued that it was LOGICAL to attribute the appearance of design to actual design.
Now, if you are going to argue LOGIC, you are basing your argument upon a LOGICAL FORM. This is the framework which determines the validity of your argument and will apply to all cases that fit into that framework!
So, to determine that your argument fails LOGICALLY, all that needs to be done is to find an example which fits that framework, but that is found to be FALSE!
And I did. And I can cite many more.
So, keep your laundry list of biological functions that you would want to trot out one after the other. The simple fact is that your claim that it is LOGICAL that the appearance of design should always imply actual design has been trashed with scarcely raising a finger.
Back to your drawing board I'm afraid.
Now Euler you must try to understand that when we are discussing in a certain context that the context within that discussion must be addressed when raising an objection. The context of the appearance of design was a specific case and not in general. The case in discussion was the appearance in living things and the fine tuning of the universe. They are both very specific features that have specific complexity that due to that specific complexity are considered to have the appearance of design. This appearance of design is due to the appearance that an agent with intent for a purpose set it up. My claim that it is more logical to assume that this appearance in these features of an agent with intent for a purpose is more logical to be an actual agent with intent for a purpose than it is for this specified complexity of life and the fine tuning of the universe to be a product of illusion.
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