Its really frustrating when i am unable to find the peace that surpasses all understanding. how must i acquire that? i have lived my life as a Christian since i was six, and i truely believe i am saved. however, it is really frustrating when i am always worried about something. i find that the only remedy for worry is a distraction. if my mind has room to worry, I worry. if i engage my mind on something that requires more mental attention such as video games, tv, or reading im able to get my mind off of them. ok, but there are times when i won't be able to do all of those things and therefore, will end out worrying again. I have tried giving these things to God, but am unable to find peace. honestly, i almost would rather waste my time on mindless entertainment than pray. i don't know why, but when i pray, the worry doesn't improve and something gets worse because praying about it is also thinking about it. I love God and i want to put him first, but its really hard something.
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If you read the Bible, believed it, and meditated on it then you would not be worried about this.
"5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.
10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." (2 Peter 1:5-11)
You may have trouble believing that you were or could be forgiven of your sins my friend.
"5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.
10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." (2 Peter 1:5-11)
You may have trouble believing that you were or could be forgiven of your sins my friend.
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So, are you saying that if i was saved, i wouldn't be worried about? Isn't it common for Christians to go through this. ill be honest, this is serious torment.
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I know this happens, but I do not know how common it is. There are so many post about how to know you are saved on here, do none of them help you? Well, I pray you will have assurance of salvation. God bless.
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2 Peter 1:5-11 His 8 Graces! From online studies, I have learned that these scriptures teach us how to be Christ-like. These scriptures mean a lot to me.
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Peace, huh. What does it mean, to me, to be saved? I can experience His teaching of Godly love. In Yeshua's time, agape love was not written about. Yeshua, Holy Yeshua, created agape love and teaches us through His word His will for us to experience His love for us as we learn how to love others respectivly.
Have you read The Joy Of Knowing God by Strause?
If we worship Him in truth and spirit then we are in His presence when we pray, which I say is perfect in space and time.
I am troubled when I want to be more than what I am. These days I push to pray for the issues that concern me, as I ask Him to lead my prayers, so that I can step up to the next level of spiritual development: Yeshua sweat blood when He prayed. He did not fool around. He knows what I want; I want all to be safe from violent exploitation. And I thank Him everyday for those He sends forth to answer those prayers.
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No, you said that. I am saying that the Bible tells us how to be saved, stay saved, and how to make ourselves sure of our salvation. We are saved by grace through faith.
I am also saying that if you really read, believed in, and meditated on the Word then you shouldn't have this problem. Unless of course you are focusing more on "mindless entertainment." If sounds like there is an issue that you need to face but are afraid to for whatever reason. Jesus told us that we shall know the truth, and the truth shall set us free. Applying the truth to your situation that causes you torment is the key.
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Yeah, I sure do like mindless entertainment. That's because it gets my guilt driven off my mind of what I consistently worry about. In fact, the more I think about the things of God, the more I worry. The more I sit down and play some fallout 3 on my xbox 360 trying to beat the quest, I am incapable of worrying, because my mind is occupied. So, whenever I start reading the word, I begin to worry even more. My mind is in constant torment. So, sounds like a distraction is a lot better. Unless you believe that the idea of suffering for Christ is part of the it. Doesn't sound like too much fun to me. So now, why does God allow me to go through this. Why can't I read his word and find peace? For doing this does the very opposite in fact.
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Being tormented just means that one is not perfected in love:
"17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us."
(1 John 4:17-19)
"But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. 13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?" (Hebrews 9:11-14) (emphasis added)
Dead works means "I am just doing this because I am/feel guilty." It is difficult, if not impossible, to really serve God with this cloud of guilt hanging over your head and God knows that - that is why He sent His Son Jesus to die for all of mankinds sins so that we would not be under that guilt. Of course, only those who believe/receive that sacrifice are saved.
Why does God allow you to go through this? I think the question is, why do you allow yourself to go through this? God already gave us everything we needed as written in His Word.
You seem to be saying that you are not trusting in Christ as your righteousness, but rather yourself - otherwise, would you still feel guilty? Christ followed the law perfectly, and His righteousness is placed in on us when we trust in Him. When you are disregarding His Word, should you really be surprised that you are struggling?
"13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it." (Colossians 2:13-15)
So when you say you can't find peace when you read His Word, then I think you are not understanding what you read. There was a time whenreading the Word made me feel guilty, but when I KEPT reading the Word, the guilt went away because I got to the parts that talked about grace and forgiveness and that put everything in perspective. I used to just read small sections at a time OR just the old testament, but when I read whole books (like Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John) in the New Testament in one sitting, the guilt went away.
"17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us."
(1 John 4:17-19)
"But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. 13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?" (Hebrews 9:11-14) (emphasis added)
Dead works means "I am just doing this because I am/feel guilty." It is difficult, if not impossible, to really serve God with this cloud of guilt hanging over your head and God knows that - that is why He sent His Son Jesus to die for all of mankinds sins so that we would not be under that guilt. Of course, only those who believe/receive that sacrifice are saved.
Why does God allow you to go through this? I think the question is, why do you allow yourself to go through this? God already gave us everything we needed as written in His Word.
You seem to be saying that you are not trusting in Christ as your righteousness, but rather yourself - otherwise, would you still feel guilty? Christ followed the law perfectly, and His righteousness is placed in on us when we trust in Him. When you are disregarding His Word, should you really be surprised that you are struggling?
"13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it." (Colossians 2:13-15)
So when you say you can't find peace when you read His Word, then I think you are not understanding what you read. There was a time whenreading the Word made me feel guilty, but when I KEPT reading the Word, the guilt went away because I got to the parts that talked about grace and forgiveness and that put everything in perspective. I used to just read small sections at a time OR just the old testament, but when I read whole books (like Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John) in the New Testament in one sitting, the guilt went away.
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I will add that God loves you even when you are going through this, but not reading His Word or not focusing on Him may lead you to love Him less and see less of His love.
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I feel for you. I would pray that you find peace. Pray that you find a Christian Pastor (Minister), or Christian counselor, or a strong Christian, who could counsel you and pray for you. The advice here is good, but I think one on one with a person you can see would be very beneficial to you also and necessary. God bless.
Praying for you.
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Take some time to mediate and share your thoughts between him. IN the short term it may feel awakrd and discomforting but in time you'll get closer and closer to lasting peace
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Well, I have been clouded by too much fear of God that I am unable to wana pick up my bible. There needs to be someone who can help me because I am too weak to help myself. I've called out to him, but I must be too sinful and selfish for him to want to listen to me.
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The part about not asking for signs isn't my fav. Makes me feel like Im not a very good Christian cuz I don't have much faith. Its like in the Christian world, its the cool thing to have faith. Its like you suck if you dont have faith. That's how it makes me feel to be honest.
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