That could be true.The more "the West" is "progressing" toward sexual deviance and open sodomy the more the rest of the world will have to implement such laws. Without the US and EU promoting LGBTQIP+ "rights" these African countries wouldn't even talk about legislature like this one.
Nobody has denied it! You are being asked for specific cases where there has been a problem. So we can examine it and see if we agree with you. We may well agree with you and say yes, in that specific case it should not have been done. But throwing you hands in the air and constantly complaining that it should all stop is nonsensical.So are you admitting now that it is being done to teens?
So when you said "It's always wrong to chop off perfectly healthy body parts.", you were wrong. Circumcision is okay. You might want to keep that in mind as the obvious exception next time.Ah I see. So the part of the foreskin for you is considered a body part. Are you aware that there are health benefits to it?
Then give us a specific example and we can examine if it was detrimental or beneficial.It's always wrong to chop off perfectly healthy body parts. Especially if you are not an adult. How in the world do you condone the removal of perfectly good breasts from kids,?
Again, don't be facetious. You are fully aware of prospective problems other why complain about it. In some cases it really doesn't matter. In some cases it does and needs to be addressed. I've already told you that. Either accept that or not.I noticed you are neatly dodging the question I asked. Which is why do we need to do something about transwomen in women's sports? I think I know why, but since you won't answer I can't confirm or reject my thoughts. Why do we need to do something about transwomen in women's sports?
Ah I see. So the part of the foreskin for you is considered a body part. Are you aware that there are health benefits to it?
Lets list a few.
What are the benefits of circumcision?
Circumcision has several benefits. Not only does it help aspects of penis health, but it can improve hygiene. That’s because a circumcised penis is simpler to clean and wash, especially for children.
The specific health benefits of circumcision include a lower risk of:
Certain penis conditions: · These penile disorders include balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin), paraphimosis and phimosis, when the foreskin gets stuck out of place.
Cervical cancer for partners: Female sex partners of circumcised men are less likely to get cervical cancer.
Penile cancer: Men who had circumcisions are less likely to get cancer of the penis.
Sexually transmitted infections: Men who had circumcision have a lower risk of certain STIs, including HIV.
Urinary tract infections: UTIs are more common in uncircumcised males.
Now please list the physical benefits of removing a girls breasts because she thinks she might be a boy and the transgender activists have convinced her that she should.
based on something that might happen. Nothing on your list is for sure, just might happen and people get talked into doing it to their infant sons by some clergy probably indoctrinating them from when they were young.chop off perfectly healthy body parts.
What!? Of course it's been denied. Where have you been? That was Larinvecs whole deal. Maybe not you, but it sure sounded like you were.Nobody has denied it! You are being asked for specific cases where there has been a problem. So we can examine it and see if we agree with you. We may well agree with you and say yes, in that specific case it should not have been done. But throwing you hands in the air and constantly complaining that it should all stop is nonsensical.
I have never denied that teens are are transgendering and in some cases have chosen surgery. How could I deny it? And why would I? I keep asking for a specific example of when you think it's been done in error. I'm still waiting. There must be some. Go find one. Give us the details so we can all determine if we agree with you or not. And hey, an hour long video which seem to suggest that a mother had doubts ain't it.What!? Of course it's been denied. Where have you been? That was Larinvecs whole deal. Maybe not you, but it sure sounded like you
I certainly wasn't thinking of the foreskin as a body part. So that would be my error in that case if it is indeed considered a body part. As I pointed out there are some very good physical health reasons to do it.So when you said "It's always wrong to chop off perfectly healthy body parts.", you were wrong. Circumcision is okay. You might want to keep that in mind as the obvious exception next time.
Personally, I'm against chopping off the breasts of a minor as part of gender reassignment.
Yes the video is entirely relevant. It's a mom who is a lesbian, believed in gender ideology and fully supported transitioning of her son and was supported by the clinics. Then she realized that it was wrong. They were all wrong. And to poo poo away her story simply means you are not really interested in examining any of this. You are on the transition train. You never heard of Chloe Cole?I have never denied that teens are are transgendering and in some cases have chosen surgery. How could I deny it? And why would I? I keep asking for a specific example of when you think it's been done in error. I'm still waiting. There must be some. Go find one. Give us the details so we can all determine if we agree with you or not. And hey, an hour long video which seem to suggest that a mother had doubts ain't it.
All your posts have been nothing but point out that there have been problems. And...what? Nobody could possibly argue that there haven't been some so what is the purpose of constantly pointing this out. Do you want the problems to be addressed? All transitioning cancelled? Ban all surgery? What exactly do you want?
The girl that said that her doctor did not follow the standards of care from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health? That Chloe? Well, I support her in that she should. As from here: CPAC offers a platform for an avalanche of anti-trans attacksYou never heard of Chloe Cole?
Are you kidding me? When you go through transitioning with drugs which alter your body and mind. And you go through surgeries to further alter your body so that you no longer resemble what you once were, you think there would be a ton of people who would stop using the drugs and do what with their bodies? You can't reverse your surgeries. It would be a total mess.The girl that said that her doctor did not follow the standards of care from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health? That Chloe? Well, I support her in that she should. As from here: CPAC offers a platform for an avalanche of anti-trans attacks
Gender-affirming care can span several kinds of treatments, including puberty blockers, hormone therapy and social transitioning support. Care standards from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health and other leading medical groups do not recommend that affirming surgeries be performed on minors.
Such care is considered safe, effective and medically necessary by most medical organisations. The American Medical Association, American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Family Physicians, among others, have established clear clinical guidelines for treating young trans people.
Those are pretty much the experts on what gender care can and cannot achieve and at what age certain procedures are applicable. Whether Cole didn't receive that level of care I don't know. And they all say that surgery is for adults only, with the following consideration (from the AAP in this case):
When applicable, eligibility is usually determined on a case-by-case basis with the adolescent and the family along with input from medical, mental health, and surgical providers. Ensuring Comprehensive Care and Support for Transgender and Gender-Diverse Children and Adolescents
And I have no problem in allowing doctors, psychiatrists, any and all other experts, parents and patients themselves making decisions on individuals on an individual basis. And in passing, genital surgery is not recommended for minors.
As with any reversable surgical intervention, they are the people who will make those decisions. Not you. In Cole's case, she had a mastectomy around the age of 16. Was that too young? I'm not an expert, so I don't know what the medical decision on that should be. But everyone agreed it was for the best. Including her. So what do you want to do? Ban all surgery until...what? 16? That's the recommendation. So it's only in exceptional cases that that would change.
From Scientific American: What the Science on Gender-Affirming Care for Transgender Kids Really Shows
New research in 17,151 people who had ever socially transitioned found that 86.9 percent persisted in their gender identity. Of the 2,242 people who reported that they reverted to living as the gender associated with the sex they were assigned at birth, just 15.9 percent said they did so because of internal factors such as questioning their experienced gender but also because of fear, mental health issues and suicide attempts. The rest reported the cause was social, economic and familial stigma and discrimination.
See that? Social and familial stigmatisation and discrimination. Gee, I wonder what group of people are causing that? But in any case, you want to ban procedures that all major medical groups support and where only 2% reverted because of doubts about their gender. Lucky for us you don't get to make medical decisions, eh?
Except they never say no. There is no such thing as a case guy case basis. It's always yes. Give me a case when they said no to a kid who wanted to transition.When applicable, eligibility is usually determined on a case-by-case basis with the adolescent and the family along with input from medical, mental health, and surgical providers.
Maybe you can take the time to upgrade your education to include a masters in psychiatry and maybe paediatrics. Maybe surgery as well. Get some time in on getting up to speed with all the necessary medical qualifications you need to make the sort of decisions that are required. I mean, you don't even accept the concept of gender. What hope is there that we would ever get constructive input from someone on problems regarding gender when that person refuses to acknowledge that the concept of gender itself doesn't exists?The kids would be far better off getting the real help they need instead of chemically castrating them and cutting off their breasts.
You mean like Money? The pedophile who had all the same qualifications and mutilated kids only to have his theories totally fail resulting in the suicide of his subjects?Maybe you can take the time to upgrade your education to include a masters in psychiatry and maybe paediatrics. Maybe surgery as well. Get some time in on getting up to speed with all the necessary medical qualifications you need to make the sort of decisions that are required. I mean, you don't even accept the concept of gender. What hope is there that we would ever get constructive input from someone on problems regarding gender when that person refuses to acknowledge that the concept of gender itself doesn't exists?