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U.S. Ambassador's Passover wishes in Polish met with anger

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Michie, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Michie

    Michie Perch Perkins. Catholic reporter. ;) Supporter

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    *You are in the Catholic forum*

    The U.S. ambassador to Poland wished Jews a happy Passover in Polish, and the reaction has been a wave of angry comments on Twitter.

    Ambassador Georgette Mosbacher also wished Poles a happy Easter on Sunday. But by then, she was accused of offending the country with her Passover tweet and reminded that she is serving in a mostly Roman Catholic country.

    Krystyna Pawlowicz, a lawmaker with Poland's ruling right-wing party, called it a "provocation."

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  2. myst33

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    Such wish is weird, at least, being from an official ambassador in any Christian country. Poland does not keep Pesach.
     
  3. chevyontheriver

    chevyontheriver Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Those few who are ancestors of the rare survivors of the Warsaw Ghetto might. What the ambassador said was proper. If the Czech ambassador to the USA wants to convey wishes for a Happy Quanza, nobody's feathers would be ruffled. Presuming they also conveyed wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Happy Hannukah.
     
  4. myst33

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    Poland is not USA. Poland is much more monolithic in its religion, culture and race. So such "multi cultural wishes" sounds strange, there. I can understand why many people take it as a provocation.

    If Christ was resurrected, there is no ground for judaism. You cannot have/wish both. You must choose one.
     
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  5. Michie

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    People look for a reason to be offended anymore. They hope for it. Any reasonable person would of took it in the good intentions it was meant.
     
  6. myst33

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    Judaism and Christianity are not like "blue and green", they are incompatible and against each other.

    To wish a judaistic holiday to a Catholic Poland is, at least, very insensitive from that ambassador. Similar to wishing a communist holiday in the USA.
     
  7. Michie

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    Please stop debating in the Catholic forum. The ambassador did nothing wrong with any malice.
     
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  8. chevyontheriver

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    Poland was much more 'multicultural' before Hitler 'solved' that problem.
    Since the Christ has been resurrected there is a basis for Judaism to come to recognize their own Messiah. How is that going to happen when someone wishing them a Happy Passover is castigated by representatives of the Monolith. We wish then a happy Passover and we pray that they may recognize the eternal Passover Lamb, who was slain for their sins too, based on their own Scriptures.
     
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  9. thecolorsblend

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    I don't think Poland has ever been fond of jews. Their collective opinion seems to only have diminished in the past few years. This isn't a big surprise.
     
  10. chevyontheriver

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    No, but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck is it racism? I'm not one to play the racism card quickly, but maybe ...

    Would the ambassador have gotten as chilly a reception had she wished the Muslims of Poland a happy Eid? That can be tested.
     
  11. thecolorsblend

    thecolorsblend If God is your Father, who is your Mother?

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    I would expect an ambassador to show a bit more awareness of the situation.

    Some holocaust investigation team or another has begun blaming Poland for what happened. Meanwhile, the Polish government has refused any and all responsibility for that. The Polish people, understandably, don't want to be associated with genocide.

    As I say, Poland has never been overly fond of jews but things have really gotten worse this year. The ambassador's statement was incredibly tone deaf and you'd think a diplomat would know better.
     
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  12. chevyontheriver

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    Were I an ambassador, which will never happen, there would be times to bite my tongue and times to make bold statements. Wishing the Jews of any country a happy Passover is neither of those.
     
  13. Michie

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    People are searching for more verbal crimes. They seem to want more verbal crimes. Anything... I'm sorry is not enough. Even if no harm was meant by it.
     
  14. thecolorsblend

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    Context matters. Right now, the French people are probably in no mood to wish the Moslem community a happy Ramadan. A year ago, maybe they were. But right now, not so much.

    Being accused of genocide against a bunch of people they never liked much in the first place is a lot for the Polish to take in. I'm not saying anybody has to agree with them. I understand if they don't agree, in fact. But ambassadors rarely get optimal, best case circumstances. The situation in Poland is what it is.

    And the fact is that diplomats should know better.
     
  15. Michie

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    I'm all about being sensitive. And that includes both sides. It is one thing to do something with malice. Which obviously was not the case here. And it is another thing to be assimilated into the 'group think' which seems to be the motivator here to jump on the Brainwashing R Us bandwagon.
     
  16. Tutorman

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    Most people now of days are not reasonable unfortunately
     
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